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Even OLED doesn't have to do that to you. I've been on the Samsung S9+ reading and posting all weekend and it's been great. I can't see the letters "vibrating" like I did on my ex-X's display. And thanks again for your efforts to get Apple to respond to that issue.

I’ve only ever used iPhone for the past ten years but I’d be opening to trying the S9 for the next few months depending on the PWM measurements.
 
You can bet on Apple going with cheaper but not better.

Prolly should do some research on this. This has been a 5-6 year development initially with Japan Display. LG has now assumed the role of JD. Apple has been at the front on this technology. I am not an Apple apologist by any means. This one they will nail. :apple:
 
Every single company in the world that produces any type of consumer electronic device is reliant on others. Even Samsung phones contain a large number of parts made by other companies.

So what’s your point? Why single out Apple when they are no different from every other company on the planet?

I single out Apple to prove how daft some here are.
They seem to think Apple invents all this stuff.
You and I an others know this isn't the case.

However, I feel we must accept, Apple is one of the lesser companies that actually make anything.
I'm sure Samsung could have a line of Smartphones using their own components and developments.
Apple, whilst good products would be dead in the water without others support.
 
They released a phone with a better OLED panel than what had been released prior..

Please explain. Did they create this display? Did they develop it? The way you talk of this panel in the X, would lead anyone reading your statement to believe Apple is solely or mostly responsible for that display. Please explain in more detail.
 
Please explain. Did they create this display? Did they develop it? The way you talk of this panel in the X, would lead anyone reading your statement to believe Apple is solely or mostly responsible for that display. Please explain in more detail.

Try reading very slowly. Apple released a phone that had an OLED panel that was rated better than any phone previously released. That’s it.
 
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Only in your virtual reality.

Man, the android apologists can’t just accept this and move on. This is what Apple has always done. They are usually late to the party and then they release a better version. The same thing happened with OLED. The same thing happened with facial recognition. The same thing will happen with microLED. I mean, be thrilled you’re always first to the market if it makes ya feel better? I don’t know, just move on.
 
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Man, the android apologists can’t just accept this and move on. This is what Apple has always done. They are usually late to the party and then they release a better version. The same thing happened with OLED. The same thing will happened with facial recognition. The same thing will happen with microLED. I mean, be thrilled you’re always first to the market if it makes ya feel better? I don’t know, just move on.

Boy oh boy.
Let's just wait and see what microLED has to offer.

Your claim, that X has already the best OLED is just wrong.

http://www.displaymate.com/iPhoneX_ShootOut_1a.htm
http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S8_ShootOut_01.htm

Also notice, that the S8 consumes 0,75W less power at 50% brightness...
 
Boy oh boy.
Let's just wait and see what microLED has to offer.

Your claim, that X has already the best OLED is just wrong.

http://www.displaymate.com/iPhoneX_ShootOut_1a.htm
http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S8_ShootOut_01.htm

Also notice, that the S8 consumes 0,75W less power at 50% brightness...

From your link...


The Best Smartphone Display

· The iPhone X is the most innovative and high performance Smartphone display that we have ever tested.

· First we need to congratulate Samsung Display for developing and manufacturing the outstanding OLED display hardware in the iPhone X.

· But what makes the iPhone X the Best Smartphone Display is the impressive Precision Display Calibration that Apple developed that transforms the OLED hardware into a superbly accurate, high performance, and gorgeous display!!
 
From your link...


The Best Smartphone Display

· The iPhone X is the most innovative and high performance Smartphone display that we have ever tested.

· First we need to congratulate Samsung Display for developing and manufacturing the outstanding OLED display hardware in the iPhone X.

· But what makes the iPhone X the Best Smartphone Display is the impressive Precision Display Calibration that Apple developed that transforms the OLED hardware into a superbly accurate, high performance, and gorgeous display!!

You are the typical consumer who just reads the BOLD statements...
 
Try reading very slowly. Apple released a phone that had an OLED panel that was rated better than any phone previously released. That’s it.

LOL, trying your hardest to avoid giving credit to the true innovator of that display. Exactly what I thought. All good.
 
LOL, trying your hardest to avoid giving credit to the true innovator of that display. Exactly what I thought. All good.

I have no issue giving credit to Samsung for manufacturing the display, but it doesn’t have anything to do with my point. Apple waited until the technology matured, took a display Samsung manufactured, calibrated it, and made it better. Everyone wins.
 
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From your link...


The Best Smartphone Display

· The iPhone X is the most innovative and high performance Smartphone display that we have ever tested.

· First we need to congratulate Samsung Display for developing and manufacturing the outstanding OLED display hardware in the iPhone X.

· But what makes the iPhone X the Best Smartphone Display is the impressive Precision Display Calibration that Apple developed that transforms the OLED hardware into a superbly accurate, high performance, and gorgeous display!!

So we should all go and rebrand our TVs, Joe Smith, or whatever the name of the person is, who calibrated your TV. Oh I know, maybe we can just call our TVs by the name of the store we bought it at and had someone from the store calibrate it for you. Yeah that's it, check out my new Best Buy TV, Geek Squad editon. Lol. What a joke.
 
leap frogging lg oled and samsung qled is a brilliant move by apple

from what i've read microled has all of oled's advantages with none of it's disadvantages
 
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Apple has enough cash in the bank to develop all of their own components.

Unlimited pool of cash doesn't guarantee you solutions to problem and breakthroughs. People do. Money is just there to keep the right people. If they can't recognize and grab key people in MicroLED industry they will get nowhere.

Sony and Samsung are already way ahead in MicroLED game anyway and they do work on downsizing as well.
 
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Yeah but can microLED individually turn off per pixel, offering extreme contrast and crushing deep blacks?

OLED and mLED are both LED, so they have the same display characteristics and advantages over LCD. Fully off is black. Wide display angles. Etc.

The main difference is:

- OLED is made from organic materials like polymers that are carbon and hydrogen based. Commonly used in high resolution flat displays from watches to smartphones to TVs.

- mLED is made using inorganic materials like compounds of gallium, silicon, nitrogen. Large inorganic LEDs are used all around us as common red or green power indicators, and in white or yellow for bulb replacements. Note these are mostly fairly large single dot applications. (Older calculators used tiny red gallium arsenide LED dot matrix displays for numbers.)

So really they should be called OLED (organic) and ILED (inorganic). But who would buy something called "inorganic"? Thus they use the cooler sounding "micro" moniker. Kind of like how "liquid metal" sounds so much cooler than saying "plastic metal", which likewise is closer to reality.

..............

However, to actually qualify as "microLED", each inorganic LED is supposed to be 100 microns in diameter or less. If it were possible to jam them side by side, that's roughly 250 PPI. In real life, commercial mLEDs are still around 150 microns and used at more like 5-25 PPI.

While one-off experimental mLED displays have been made at 1000 PPI and higher, they're also fingernail sized and only a single color.

Currently the search is on for a breakthrough method of making mLED panels on a scale and resolution that would make them competitive with OLED at even a watch sized display. But so far they've been commercially viable only for wall sized displays made up of relatively large pixel blocks at a very low PPI.
 
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leap frogging lg oled and samsung qled is a brilliant move by apple

from what i've read microled has all of oled's advantages with none of it's disadvantages

How are they leapfrog Samsung. Samsung has the world's first MicroLED TV going on sale soon. Lol.
 
If Apple can pull this off, it should mean better quality at a lower end cost (at least I hope so).

Yeah, but lower cost for Apple doesn't mean lower sales price for us.
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Makes sense. Control the whole stack. Is screen tech the last major hurdle for them to control the whole thing?

Not yet, there are still some third party components they need to kick out.
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Except Samsung have a head start on MicroLED. They showed off a 146” MicroLED TV this year and have reported to have their mobile screen variations well under development.

Given Samsung’s history of pushing display technologies in the mobile space well before others, I wouldn’t be surprised to see MicroLED in a Galaxy device first. After that it will be the usual pissing match of who does it better.

No they didn't, they are expected to do so next September: https://www.homecinemamagazine.nl/2018/02/lg-komt-september-eerste-microled-televisie/
 
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