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First they kill the headphone jack and now the lightning to 30 pin adaptor? What's next? The home button?
Nah - they are just killing anything associated with music ;) the iPod used to have a legendary status when it comes to music . Now u get ...... Beats inspired Apple Music :p
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We're going WIRELESS, Apple fans!

Get yer AirPower Wireless Chargers now!
My collection of iPods cannot wait .....

iPod is an ancient device that held .... music on the device ..... yes people owned music once, and it sounded better using “wired” connections ..... :p
 
When my 5.5G iPod Video had the headphone jack and hard drive die a couple of years ago during a battery swap, I installed an SD card adapter with a 64GB SD card, and moved it out to the car to connect to the USB port in the center console via 30-pin cable. It lives there all the time now, so I don't have to always plug in my phone for music.

My car stereo can control all of the music on the iPod Video without touching the iPod, and by using an iPod I don't have to rename all the music files with an 01, 02, 03 in front of the file name like I do when I use a thumb drive in the car (My pioneer doesn't seem to use ID3 tags, or my files don't have them).

The problem is my USB port is currently at the bottom of the center console, under a pile of stuff in there, and it's not easy to get to it and change from 30-pin cable to lightning cable when the kids want to plug in their iPhone. So, we use a 30-pin to lightning adapter and they can unplug the cable from the iPod and attach the adapter, without having to reach the USB port in the bottom.

When my 30-pin adapter dies someday, I figured that I'll have to either stop using the 64GB iPod 5.5G, or empty out everything from the center console whenever we want to plug in a modern Apple device. What a PITA.

So I went to BestBuy.com and snatched up one more of these for later. AFTER I ordered this I realized I could have just bought a 6" USB-A extender cable for $6 on Amazon. Who knows, maybe it will grow in value in a few years...
 
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Plus, have you used wireless charging? I have and it’s a disaster and based on recent rumors, it’s one not even the great Apple can figure out how to fix.

Please define disaster. I've been using it for 10 months and find it far more convenient and reliable than wired charging. It may not suit everyone in every situation, but it has advantages over wired charging in some circumstances which happen to align with my use.
 
I want wireless stuff. In the current implementations, it's useful for making devices impervious to water and dust. In the future, I want to stop having to plug my devices in. I just want them to work all the time.

Definitely like wireless communication. Nice not having ethernet cables everywhere.

Next thing that should go wireless is HDMI.

wireless is nice but not in all situations. I hate wireless because you don't know what is connected to what. This is a huge issue when 5 members of the family connected to the same Wifi with guests in the house, and someone taps a random button that will send a photo or livestream to the TV in the living room. Just an example of many issues wireless technology causes.

Another issue is sometimes the wireless is off or on and you don't know because of some random restart or default. Apple switches Bluetooth on again after 24 hours of shutting it down. Thats what my phone tells me.
 
...and I've been having charging problems ever since. Lightning is hopeless, as a physical standard.
At least I am not the only one. I don't know if it's the port, or the cables, because it seems once a month or so, I wake up with my phone at 50% because the charger keeps going off and on again, continuously. I try a different cable and it seems to be fine, until it doesn't. And it just sits static on my night stand.
 
Well, can't wait until they retire the lightning port in favor of usb-c.
Can you imagine using the same cable for android and iOS devices?
 
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Haven't seen anybody using a 30-pin cable these days except for myself. Always fun to ask if someone has a 30-pin cable and hear the countless responses of "what is that?!".

I just got back from a 3 week trip in Europe and I could not believe the number of iPhone 4/4s that I saw still being used over there. And this was 5 different countries, not just one place. I was absolutely blown away.

Most networks here in the US are getting rid of/have gotten rid of 3G network spectrum (which is all the 4/4s support) and reusing it for LTE. I was also surprised how much my XS Max dropped off LTE and switched to 3G, even in some cities.
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Plus, have you used wireless charging? I have and it’s a disaster and based on recent rumors, it’s one not even the great Apple can figure out how to fix.

What in the hell are you talking about? Honestly? Apple’s issue is with wireless is with the AirPower charging pad, not the wireless charging built into the phones. We’ve been using wireless charging almost exclusively for the last 10 or 11 months and it’s been excellent. Not a single issue. The only time we still charge with cables are either when we’re going to be out all day and bring a battery with us, or when we travel because we keep the charger and cables in our travel bag we always travel with.
 
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Well, can't wait until they retire the lightning port in favor of usb-c.
Can you imagine using the same cable for android and iOS devices?

Nope. Apple committed to lightning for 10 years, and why give up a money fountain on cables. USBC to lightning is the cable for years to come.
 
Cue the handful of people outraged about this because they still have the 30 pin docking alarm clock they bought in 2010.

And why not? Gear that lasts is gear that lasts and one likes the peripherals that may come with it or may be needed to extend functionality.

I still drive the 2000 "Chevota" (the hybrid Chevy-Toyota) Prizm that I bought in 2006. I'd be fairly annoyed if the last 3rd party parts maker quit making the interior door handle that sometimes breaks when I'm too impatient to get into the car and start it warming up when it's -25ºF outside.

There's a joke in my house
that the Chevy parts on that car are that door handle and the glove box
but I don't want to politicize the thread. :D
 
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No need for name calling, as his post was a sarcastic joke; in jest.



Not for use by the common end-user.
Not officially, and not yet anyway. Regardless, that can be accommodated on any Apple device in the same manner. Customers, don’t necessarily need access to a port for troubleshooting anymore. That said, I expect Apple won’t remove a user accessible physical port on devices which may need physical attachments for certain customer’s needs. A watch really doesn’t. That’s what I think the SmartConnector is for.
 
I found this article because I am trying to find the adapter for the other direction. The one that allows Lightning cables and accessories to be used on a 30 pin iOS device.
 



Apple has discontinued its $29 Lightning to 30-pin Adapter and has removed the accessory from its website as of this week.

The Lightning to 30-pin Adapter was first introduced in 2012 after Apple debuted the Lightning connector to replace to 30-pin connector that had been used in iPhones and iPads up to that point.

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At the time of the transition, many people were using 30-pin cables for charging purposes for existing devices, prompting Apple to launch the adapter. The adapter was also useful for connecting existing 30-pin accessories to the new Lightning devices.

Lightning connectors are significantly thinner and more compact than 30-pin and the switch over to the more svelte Lightning connector allowed Apple to save space for other components in iPhones and iPads.

Apple's iPhone 5, fourth-generation iPad, and first-generation iPad mini were some of the first devices to use the new Lightning connector, which has been present in all mobile devices since 2012.

It's now been six years since Lightning was introduced and there is no longer a need for the Lightning to 30-pin Adapter as a limited number of those cables are still in use in 2018.

Article Link: Apple Discontinues Lightning to 30-Pin Adapter
Wow. I still hate the lightning connectors 6 years later. They always break. It’s insane. I went through at least 20 cables
 
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Wow. I still hate the lightning connectors 6 years later. They always break. It’s insane. I went through at least 20 cables

I sure wasn't a fan of using a 30-pin to lightning adapter in a Logitech speakerdock to hold up my cherished iPhone SE, and I'm certainly not going to try it with an XR. I've reverted now to using an old 30-pin iPod touch in the Logictech to serve as my audiobook reader at night and wakeup music option in the AM. .

So my gorgeous yellow XR now stays downstairs sulking by itself overnight, and sucking up any wall juice it may require while I listen to an old iPod upstairs, go figure. I have to use a cordless landline for phone calls anyway in my place, since I live in a dead zone and don't leave my router on overnight for WiFi calls, so my new arrangement is just one less thing to remember to take up and downstairs in daily routines.

As far as USB-C goes, I'm neutral on it and at this point sort of numb to the fact that since I have older and newer gear too, I already have to carry around a collection of adapters and cables. What's one more set. Eventually something old breaks and that's the end of the need for that kind of connecting gear. These are all "first world" problems I can live with for sure. The guy out in SF that I buy gear bags from probably figures that too. :rolleyes:
 
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As far as USB-C goes, I'm neutral on it and at this point sort of numb to the fact that since I have older and newer gear too, I already have to carry around a collection of adapters and cables. What's one more set. Eventually something old breaks and that's the end of the need for that kind of connecting gear. These are all "first world" problems I can live with for sure. The guy out in SF that I buy gear bags from probably figures that too. :rolleyes:

Are they the Waterfield gear bags? I love them! I have a couple myself. And they are Made in the USA. Expensive, sure. But peerless quality and build. And gorgeous REAL leather in some of their products.
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Wow. I still hate the lightning connectors 6 years later. They always break. It’s insane. I went through at least 20 cables

The technology of the Lightning port is sound. It was actually "technologically superior" years ago compared to contemporary rival technology such as USB-A/B and Micro-USB. Unlike the USBs or Micro-USB, you did not need to figure out which side is up or down to plug in a Lightning. You just plugged it in. There was no up side or down side. You just plugged it in.

The quality of the cables is a separate matter. Apple's own Lightning cables are thin and fragile. Do understand there are some really well-made and durable Lightning cables out there. Amazon has some which are MFi certified.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01F9RGJJO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00__o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
 
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Wow. I still hate the lightning connectors 6 years later. They always break. It’s insane. I went through at least 20 cables

Nothing wrong with the cables.It’s the way people treat them.I have never broken one.I am still using a 6 year old lightning cable that came with my iPhone 5 in 2012.
 
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The quality of the cables is a separate matter. Apple's own Lightning cables are thin and fragile. Do understand there are some really well-made and durable Lightning cables out there. Amazon has some which are MFi certified.

But I had one of those very durable cables and it suddenly stopped working because the authenticity chip in it decided this MFi certified cable was not supported. Also, the Apple micro-USB to Lightning adapter I use for the phone cradle in my car will only work on one side. Sometimes during a journey (I use my phone as a satnav) it also decides that it is no longer supported at all. I can sometimes persuade it to resume service by unplugging and connecting a couple of times until I hear the tell-tale boop. It is an overengineered bag of hurt in my experience.
 
Are they the Waterfield gear bags? I love them! I have a couple myself. And they are Made in the USA. Expensive, sure. But peerless quality and build. And gorgeous REAL leather in some of their products.

Yep, Waterfield. Love love love. By now they realize they love me too. :)

The technology of the Lightning port is sound. It was actually "technologically superior" years ago compared to contemporary rival technology such as USB-A/B and Micro-USB. Unlike the USBs or Micro-USB, you did not need to figure out which side is up or down to plug in a Lightning. You just plugged it in. There was no up side or down side. You just plugged it in.

I definitely like that much about lightning connections.

I've only had a problem with any of the adapters or cables once. I got from Apple a longer cable that I wanted to use to run from a spike protector to the top of a bureau in my bedroom, it worked great for about four months --not getting even daily use-- and then one day it just quit working.

Tried it with different devices, swapped in a known working adapter at the USB end, 180-degree flip on the lightning insertion, nothing nothing nothing got it to work.

I didn't replace that spare cable with another long one. Once was enough on the extra cost, and I reverted to regular length, which was pricey enough! Man I look at any of the cable price tags and think "so this is how they make the software bundles free..." :D
 
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Nothing wrong with the cables.It’s the way people treat them.I have never broken one.I am still using a 6 year old lightning cable that came with my iPhone 5 in 2012.
I don’t know man. 6 years with the same lighting cable. That’s some world record ****
 
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