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Apple Discontinues Pro Display XDR and $999 Stand

dumastudetto said:
Some initial thoughts based on the press release and some posts on X from experts:

- The refined speaker system is incredible and delivers immersive, high-end studio level, engineering-grade, audio.
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Time to give up my high end monitors, mics, and preamps. Thank you Apple! 🫶
 
Frixo Cool said:
I'm very disappointed for two reasons.

1) Someone who bought an Intel Mac Pro in June 2023, which wasn't that long ago
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Oops.
Frixo Cool said:
2) Working on a monitor smaller than 30" is unacceptable to me and I was looking forward to the updated XDR monitor. Now it turns out that even if they released it, it wouldn't work on my Mac Pro, which is crazy.
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I highly recommend the Asus Rog Strix XG32UCWG monitor.
32'' 4k glossy screen with refresh rate of 165hz. I have it set to 167% HIDPI using BetterDisplay and it looks amazing. Its the first 4k monitor ive used where the MacOS scaling doesn't make it look like crap.

 
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Would have preferred the new Studio Display XDR to be a 32” display. Not sure whether Apple will release another 32” display sometime in the future. Pricing of the new display is also high.
 
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I’ve had the XDR Pro Display and stand in nano almost six years now.

It’s been one of the highest utilization / value products I’ve purchased. The thing is amazing.

I started the XDR pro owners thread back then and don’t feel the need to talk up the display much.

It can’t be understood in terms of the rest of the normal consumer market, similar to how AirPods Max can’t be understood. And that’s fine.

I agree w some of the folks ITT saying a follow-up gen 2 is likely on its way. Apple continues to support pro media workflows, in film and TV. There are people who work on computers enough to pay for the quality at the high end.

Apple has the market established and the high end performance hardware to drive the displays. This is not like the fancy Apple Watch line.

Mac Pro is not even that much of a related matter because Mac Studios are delivering in its stead.

I don’t see Apple packing it in on high end workstations here, and despite people’s reactions to pricing on these monitors, they are still not reflective of the premium some are willing to place on the best.
 
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ummario said:
I understand why they introduced the new 27-inch XDR Display. What I don’t understand is why they haven’t updated the 32-inch XDR. Many people are looking for larger monitors!
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Probably not enough for apple to bother making them.
 
- rob - said:
I’ve had the XDR Pro Display and stand in nano almost six years now.

It’s been one of the highest utilization / value products I’ve purchased. The thing is amazing.

I started the XDR pro owners thread back then and don’t feel the need to talk up the display much.

It can’t be understood in terms of the rest of the normal consumer market, similar to how AirPods Max can’t be understood. And that’s fine.

I agree w some of the folks ITT saying a follow-up gen 2 is likely on its way. Apple continues to support pro media workflows, in film and TV. There are people who work on computers enough to pay for the quality at the high end.

Apple has the market established and the high end performance hardware to drive the displays. This is not like the fancy Apple Watch line.

Mac Pro is not even that much of a related matter because Mac Studios are delivering in its stead.

I don’t see Apple packing it in on high end workstations here, and despite people’s reactions to pricing on these monitors, they are still not reflective of the premium some are willing to place on the best.
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I have mine since 2021 and I could not be happier - yes, thunderbolt 5 and higher refresh would be great, but is any of that worth going to 27-inch 5K, not at all
 
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I’ve had the XDR Pro Display and stand in nano almost six years now.

It’s been one of the highest utilization / value products I’ve purchased. The thing is amazing.
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I doubt that anyone questions that it is a good product. I think that the question is whether or not it is sufficiently popular to justify continuing to make it. It is in an odd niche that is neither here nor there--it is too expensive for the typical consumer or office user, yet not up to the standards of a proper reference video monitor.
 
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Guischmitt said:
Apple is not even going to update macOS to Intel anymore, starting with macOS 27… this shouldn't come as a surprise at all. Apple last released an Intel product in August 2020.
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Apple sold the Intel Mac Pro until June 2023. So it's a bit of a stretch that after two and a half years, Apple isn't selling a single monitor compatible with this super-expensive workstation. What kind of message does that send to its loyal pro users? 🙁
 
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musicmonkey34b said:
I have two 30" Studio Displays (yes, they're from 2004.) I love having a large matte screen a little further back from me. It's the same effective FOV as having a 27" at a conventional distance, but I like having more open space in front of me on my desk. Also, the distance is a little easier on my eyes.
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My eye sight is so bad I doubt it'd be able to see the 30" pushed further back 🤣
 
marte91 said:
Depending on you workflow, it might benefit you, one example i can think of is video editing, on the second screen you can have the render video after applying effects.
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I like the idea of little extra monitors I occassionally glance at - but even with the Vision Pro, I found turning my head to see a big screen just a bit annoying and it hurt my neck. I like being able to just move my eyes around - and my eyesight isn't good enough to push the monitor further back!

An ultrawide is kind of great in theory for music production as you can see a huge amount of what you're working in - but the ultrawides don't have high enough resolution to offer good PPI.

I used to do all my music production on a 27" iMac and then iMac Pro and I found the screen massive to be honest.

These days i'm used to doing absolutely everything on this 13" MacBook Air screen - I just don't want to carry the weight of the MacBook Pro around or even the 15" - I never plug into an external monitor, I just command+tab A LOT.
 
iDento said:
I use an iMac 24’ and it’s the sweet spot for 90% of what I do. For the 10%, I use my iPad 13’ screen as a second monitor. But I understand why people might want a larger screen or multiple screens.
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Yeah I get it too - although I always thougth 2 would be a nightmare with the connection down the middle, 3 makes more sense.

Other people have better eyesight than me and can push them back too so they don't have turn their head as much.

I always sort of favour smaller displays too it seems - iPad mini, standard iPhone Pro etc
 
- rob - said:
I’ve had the XDR Pro Display and stand in nano almost six years now.

It’s been one of the highest utilization / value products I’ve purchased. The thing is amazing.

I started the XDR pro owners thread back then and don’t feel the need to talk up the display much.

It can’t be understood in terms of the rest of the normal consumer market, similar to how AirPods Max can’t be understood. And that’s fine.

I agree w some of the folks ITT saying a follow-up gen 2 is likely on its way. Apple continues to support pro media workflows, in film and TV. There are people who work on computers enough to pay for the quality at the high end.

Apple has the market established and the high end performance hardware to drive the displays. This is not like the fancy Apple Watch line.

Mac Pro is not even that much of a related matter because Mac Studios are delivering in its stead.

I don’t see Apple packing it in on high end workstations here, and despite people’s reactions to pricing on these monitors, they are still not reflective of the premium some are willing to place on the best.
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The question is whether the Pro Display XDR at $5000 is so much more productive than other 32" 6K displays. The third party ones don't have the Apple styling and don't have the miniLED but otherwise provide a single, large workspace with sufficient detail that is very productive. Third party displays are in the $1400-2000 range. I wonder if the HDR of the Apple display is worth an extra $3000-3500.

It seems like it was originally priced for the very specific market of reference monitors where prices were already very high. That is a lot more than most prosumers would spend on a monitor and I'm sure that it sold in tiny volumes. I had hoped that Apple would bring in a new, more consumer friendly 32" display, but if they are charging $3500 for a 27", I guess they would want to still charge $5000 for a 32" and that is sad.
 
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