So...forcing employees back to a building for a job that could just as easily be done at home to justify the cost of a building they didn't need to be so full of grandeur? I hope Apple has more respect for their employees than that.
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So...forcing employees back to a building for a job that could just as easily be done at home to justify the cost of a building they didn't need to be so full of grandeur? I hope Apple has more respect for their employees than that.
Physically being at the office is not technically a job requirements. Job requirements are typically work related, not commuting. If the person can fulfill the job requirements at home, commuting doesn't matter.
Tugging on the heart strings might be effective but in the end it’s a business decision. It will change over time, and it should, but over time. Are we tearing down half of NYC next week to get rid of the unused office spaces?
I know how they feel. imagine earning triple-digit salary and wasting half of that on rent in the Bay Area. If Apple can't offer this benefit they will begin to lose people to other companies.
I really wouldn't say education is a bigger success than tech the past decade. Schools often have a function of keeping kids safe when the parents are out working. There may be a plus putting devs together for some. Others prefer to code by themselves. Apple is more than coding of course but should their bookkeeper commute hours a day if the work also can be done at home improving work/life balance?
Or HR is currently inapt to judge people working remotely?
its so dumb to think that the fact people worked from home is the reason of a supposed lack of innovation in iOS. that just doesnt make sense.
And here I am, I haven't stopped reporting to work. I have no sympathy for these people at all - they just don't want the gravy train to end, it has nothing to do with health.
I totally agree.
Apple has been pushing out "innovation lacking" updates for years across many product lines.
Where the work was being done hasn't seemed to matter.
They appear to be mostly out of ideas in some of these areas and spend lots of time rearranging the deck chairs on the boat.
(just look at the Safari betas right now)
That mid-day grocery shopping makes sense. You gain time to work more.
Great call. You'd pay a loser willing to commute more than someone performing a splendid job. Your company will be an enormous success. But hey, you showed them!
The biggest innovation recently happened smack in the middle of the pandemic - M1 and macOS becoming ARM based.
Shall we continue this conversation in my native tongue?
Apple can suck it, their value grew at an exponential rate during the pandemic, and now their precious real estate value is at risk of taking a small, minuscule hit. Why should the pandemic impact everyone but them? It's time they put their big boy pants on.
I don’t understand comments like this. Just because YOU do something doesn’t mean that everyone should or that everyone has to.
You shouldn’t have sympathy, but you should (try to) have a little empathy/understanding. Sure, someone of these workers just want to “ride the gravy train”.
However, what about folks who genuinely can just do their job from home without sacrificing time/money commuting? Do you think none of these people have legitimate concerns? Working from home for almost 1.5 years has proven that in a lot of cases, quality of work doesn’t take a dive when done from home.
It’s that simple.
it's also a lot easier to fire people you never see in person. my office has fired 4 people in the last year. compared to 4 people in the 15+ years i've worked there before covid.
Perhaps it’s time for these employees to put their big boy and girl pants on instead of throwing tantrums that they have to return to the office?
Some companies actually think that company weekend increases happiness to all.
everything i've seen proves otherwise. at work i need to coordinate with many suppliers, consultants, city planning, fire marshals etc. all work quality/ability/performance has gone down hill. the supply chain is affected at every level and hardly anything gets done now. everything takes longer, no one wants to work full hours, i can't get a hold of people between business hours anymore, everyone seems to be checked out completely. i get excuses that people are taking their lunch at 4pm, taking their kids to some ******** appointment that doesn't exist, taking their dogs on walks. it's ********.
people that claim to be more productive from home are probably not very essential to business in the first place.
the discussion is about money since they employees said they don't want to move back because the cost of housing.
Or perhaps those of us more productive at home are in industries that scale extremely well with WFD/remote work arrangements. It's not a 1:1 clear-cut comparison?! Say it isn't so!
Perhaps your particular business needs IBM Watson /s