Apple Encouraging Chrome and Firefox Users to Try Safari After Installing Yosemite

[Michaelgtrusa]

Face it, Apple; people PREFER Chrome. Of all the disastrously poor, half-baked abandoned "projects" Google embarks on, Chrome has to be one of their most successful products... and WAY WAY better than Safari.

You've been up-staged - no need to worry, you're better at other things

Google has to live and learn.

 

[Wheelie4]

almost my only reason to use Chrome is that it has keyword search which last I heard was not a feature in Safari. Its just so much more convenient to go to URL bar and type "amz" then Playstation 3, than actually going to Amazon.com and use the search over there.

Safari Keyword Search extension for Safari.

 

[MacBH928]

Safari Keyword Search extension for Safari.

Thanks a lot. Extensions tend to overburden the browsers and cause issues, also developers of extensions sometimes just quit on them or do not update with newer browser releases.

None the less, I WILL try this out!

thnx

 

[runeapple]

Tried the new Safari, found it to be a resource hog, returned to Roccat, thanks but no thanks.

Chrome takes my secondary browser place.

Safari can battle it out with Firefox for the free times I need a third one!

 

[EcranBleu]

New look

I can't get passed the new font.

 

[steve333]

I could be wrong, but with the same single page open in both (this forum page). This is what I get.

You may be missing some of the processes..... or I might.... not sure

I have a lot of things going on in Activity Monitor when Safari is on, but it consistently uses more RAM than in Firefox.
Right now I have 4Gb RAM and with only Safari running My Mini is using 3.2Gb RAM. I'm going to increase it to 8Gb RAM. This is where not having soldered on RAM comes in handy (Mid 2011 Mini)

Does the adblocker actually work now?

That's the only reason I use chrome. Safari adblocking extensions don't block as many ads as chrome does.

Regular adblock hung up yahoo mail for me, adblocker plus worked before but now in Yosemite yahoo ads aren't getting blocked. Hopefully an update soon

 

[AlecZ]

Are you actually equating an ad on a website with a pop-up on the desktop?

I'm not equating them. The ads are much worse. What's one message that comes up once on the top-right edge of your screen versus a lot of popular sites telling you every time you visit to get Chrome? Even worse, Mega prohibits non-Chromium browsers (though Firefox might work with some plugin) from downloading "large" files sometimes, which is the sole reason why I have Chromium installed on my Mac as a backup.

 

[Miserabilist]

Chrome is faster... when it comes to sending your private life details to Google...

Most likely.

However, everyone needs to understand the reality of American life today: Your privacy is non-existent.

Most folks take the stance of "duh, it's social media," "lol what do you have to hide?" or "terrorism." That is completely understandable. Fear is an incredible tool, and most Americans today have no frame of reference to understand what is at stake, or what they're unknowingly giving up. Most of us don't even understand our own rights, so it's hard to put up a fight when they're being taken away.

Apple, Google, Microsoft... it just doesn't matter. Please understand that.

 

[bobright]

It's still slower than Chrome you guys are right. I had been using Safari since Yosemite released but dont like it. The zoom feat really sucks too the screen glitches then gets bigger.

 

[kirky29]

How is that different than just clicking the Full Screen icon on a YouTube video?

I'm not sure why, but sometimes I don't want to watch the video in full screen, but the normal sized YouTube player is too small and too white/bright around the edges. Not sure really, guess it's just a weird preference lol.

 

[Anitramane]

Don't understand why 95% of Mac/iOS users would use anything other than Safari to be honest. The UI is best in class which is what most users care about. I use Chrome and Firefox, but mainly for testing purposes.

The UI sucks. That's why I use Firefox.

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• Adblocking
• selecting anything on a webpage to instantly create a screenshot and upload it to imgur.com
• Clicking on a .torrent link on any webpage and having it automatically uploaded to my servers torrent client

Safari has an extension for the first thing, adblocking. But those other two? I don't think it does.

And the final problem with Safari is I also use a Windows desktop. It does not sync bookmarks with Safari on my Mac or iPhone so I am more inclined to use Chrome on Windows, OS X and iOS so I get a seamless experience between devices.

Btw, the Adblockers in Safari are really bad compared to Chrome and Firefox. Don't use Safari.

 

[Yaboze]

I really like Safari, but there isn't a Windows version anymore. I use all types of devices/computers and Chrome sync across OSX/iOS/Windows/etc.

 

[r-m]

I'd write an explanation myself, but an OSXDaily feature did a pretty good summary of it.

This is the behaviour I see (attached screenshots). It's an all or nothing thing.

If I set it to "Ask", it asks when I load and I can either trust, not now, or block (never for this site). "Not now" leaves it to "Ask" and it will ask each time the page loads. Trust, explains itself. "Never..." blocks all for the site.

If I set it to "Block" in preferences, then that's it - it blocks all.

None of the above allows me to run once on an individual flash use on the page, like I can in Chrome. I don't want to block all or allow all, I want to be picky.
Example: I want to be able to have all flash ads blocked on youtube, but be able to load the video.

 

[Tech198]

What u want is Noscript, but only for firefox.

 

[saturnotaku]

Btw, the Adblockers in Safari are really bad compared to Chrome and Firefox. Don't use Safari.

If Apple would open up Safari APIs, we could get proper adblockers. The main problem is the fact that Safari is incapable of blocking ads from Flash.

 

[Tech198]

Isn't safari still offenders at http://support.apple.com/downloads ? "Browse by product"

 

[Moto G]

But it's not "free as in FREEDOM"
Yeah, open-source fanatics tick me off a little sometimes too.

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What's wrong with Safari? I use it almost exclusively, and I've tried almost everything else.

And by the way, every single Google website (plus ones they sponsor like Mega.co.nz, Speedtest.net, and many others) constantly tells you to download Chrome if you're not using it. "Speedtest.net scores too low? Try a faster browser!" Really, Apple isn't even close to being the biggest offender in this way.

RMS is watching you...

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This is the behaviour I see (attached screenshots). It's an all or nothing thing.

If I set it to "Ask", it asks when I load and I can either trust, not now, or block (never for this site). "Not now" leaves it to "Ask" and it will ask each time the page loads. Trust, explains itself. "Never..." blocks all for the site.

If I set it to "Block" in preferences, then that's it - it blocks all.

None of the above allows me to run once on an individual flash use on the page, like I can in Chrome. I don't want to block all or allow all, I want to be picky.
Example: I want to be able to have all flash ads blocked on youtube, but be able to load the video.

Might want to try a browser that supports AdBlock Plus, then, instead of all that ridiculous faffing... and Safari isn't it.

 

[HeyHeyHeyy]

I'll say what I've already said as it seems it's not getting into your head.

You can re-order, rename, add folders to bookmark in Safari.

Oh, and not everyone wants them in alphabetical order.

I guess you think sorting is a manual process. Do you open Excel and rearrange rows manually too?

Judging by the amount of threads on Apple's forum regarding this... I think plenty of people want a sorting option that's alphanumeric (and not something they have to manually drag to reorder). Trying to debate not having such a basic feature, that ever other browser contains, is absurd.

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3666738?tstart=0

 

[Wheelie4]

A Safari version of Noscript. JavaScript Blocker

Flashblock version for Safari. ClickToFlash You can block all flash and allow it as needed by just a click on the flash. You can allow any website domain or blocked by website domain. There is a whitelist and a blacklist option.

Adblocking for Macs. Works just as good as Adblockplus for Firefox. Glimmerblocker

 

[r-m]

Might want to try a browser that supports AdBlock Plus, then, instead of all that ridiculous faffing... and Safari isn't it.

Sticking with Chome for now.

 

[r-m]

A Safari version of Noscript. avaScript Blocker

Flashblock version for Safari. ClickToFlash You can block all flash and allow it as needed by just a click on the flash. You can allow our website domain or blocked by website domain. There is a whitelist and a blacklist option.

Or I'll give ClickToFlash another go. Forgot about that.

 

[SlCKB0Y]

Weekly Chrome updates that break my sites sometimes killed it for me. safari now feels way more polished. Feels good to be back home

That's really interesting since chrome and safari were using the same rendering engine!

 

[iososx]

As much as Apple may deny it in their mind, they can't be great at everything. Yet if they weren't adverse to spending and allocating more resources to improve their weaknesses they'd be making even more money. The mere thought much less taking the actions to ask customers to use what they've already demonstrated they don't like - Safari - should bring the real truth to Apple. Safari is a second class browser. It's that simple.

 

[Robisan]

Released on October 16, Yosemite is estimated to be installed on approximately 20 percent of Macs at this point in time.

Perhaps this kind of intrusion on user experience is a reason why 80 percent haven't installed it.

 

[Tech198]

Boy, did this makes news

See,it works... Even the most annoying.. probably gets more attention.