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Apple Encouraging Chrome and Firefox Users to Try Safari After Installing Yosemite
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I've been trying Safari in Yosemite for a few days now, but there are still some thing I wish were better in it:
- Favicons;
- Sound Icon to identify which tab is playing sound;
- Reopen tabs (with their respective "history");
A thing I've noticed that is also bothering me. When I go to YouTube with Chrome, it now loads a HTML5 player that looks just like the original player but Safari always loads the Flash Player. I know I can use an extension (ClickToFlash), but Chrome seems to do it with no need for extension so...yeah improve that as well. Oh and I hate the HTML5 player from ClickTo Flash :x
- Favicons;
- Sound Icon to identify which tab is playing sound;
- Reopen tabs (with their respective "history");
A thing I've noticed that is also bothering me. When I go to YouTube with Chrome, it now loads a HTML5 player that looks just like the original player but Safari always loads the Flash Player. I know I can use an extension (ClickToFlash), but Chrome seems to do it with no need for extension so...yeah improve that as well. Oh and I hate the HTML5 player from ClickTo Flash :x
I use Firefox because a lot of the sites I went to in the past were not supported by Safari. I have since not gone to to these web sites, still use Firefox because of this. I have tried Safari since then and it is alright and I have know complaints about it. Since the latest update, it does feel snappier, but, the websites I do have still go to require passwords and I can't remember the passwords to migrate to Safari! When they require me to change the passwords I may go to Safari and set them all up there!
Me too. As far as I understand it, that fancy new Netflix player is limited to specific hardware.
I used to love Safari, it was just quicker and easier to use, but ever since upgrading, I have found this new Safari to be considerably worse than it used to be. While I can watch Netflix, I daren't even load the YouTube homepage, let alone watch a video. I have to switch to Firefox to do that!
One more reason not to install Yosemite...
* default settings make OS X unbootable if we activate Trim on the SSD.
* default settings send spotlight search data to apple and third parties.
* now we get adware pop ups because we use a multi-platform browser.
* default settings make OS X unbootable if we activate Trim on the SSD.
* default settings send spotlight search data to apple and third parties.
* now we get adware pop ups because we use a multi-platform browser.
Really, Apple?
What benefit do they get from install share that they feel it's necessary to pester the users? (In contrast to say Chrome, where the more people use it the more data Google can harvest)
I have already switched back to Safari (Chrome is bad for privacy, Firefox is monolithic instead of having multiple processes so is bad for my massively multi-tabbed browsing style) but still.
Also I still have to drag out Firefox for the odd site that inexplicably doesn't work on Safari and when signing onto "The Cloud" wifi networks where for some reason Safari just sits there like a stuffed cabbage.
What benefit do they get from install share that they feel it's necessary to pester the users? (In contrast to say Chrome, where the more people use it the more data Google can harvest)
I have already switched back to Safari (Chrome is bad for privacy, Firefox is monolithic instead of having multiple processes so is bad for my massively multi-tabbed browsing style) but still.
Also I still have to drag out Firefox for the odd site that inexplicably doesn't work on Safari and when signing onto "The Cloud" wifi networks where for some reason Safari just sits there like a stuffed cabbage.
I would switch to safari in a heart beat but it is missing an extension or feature (your choice) that is available as an ad-on for firefox and that is:
- speed dial
- A tab mix plus ad on/extension would be spectacular as well...
I am sticking with firefox for now and would NEVER use chrome!!! Chrome is nothing more than a data mining engine for google...
- speed dial
- A tab mix plus ad on/extension would be spectacular as well...
I am sticking with firefox for now and would NEVER use chrome!!! Chrome is nothing more than a data mining engine for google...
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You can't even sort bookmarks in Safari
Sort, as in re-order, put in folders or rename?
You certainly can.
If you accidentally close a tab and want to reopen it, CMD+Z. Not a complete solution but nice to know.
Anyway, Chrome comes with a Flash plugin installed inside its container (called Pepper I believe). So when it can't use the systems Flash extension, it loads that.
Safari on Yosemite will load the HTML5 YouTube player if Flash isn't installed. Though; companies that use their own proprietary players will fail (like Vemo).
I use Safari 95% of the time, but if I still need to load a flash video for some ungodly reason, I switch to Chrome.
There are things that one can do to disable or minimize the data mining aspects of Chrome. I wonder how many people who are so concerned about data mining use social media, cellphones, and not using a search engine like DuckDuckGo.
Another youtube video option that allows downloading video's. I use ClickToFlash extension to download youtube video's. Works great and it plays the mp4 version of video format on youtube instead of flash versions. Just right click the video and click download video.
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Adblock Plus? Good to know! That was the only reason I was using Chrome. Thanks for saying that.
I use Safari as my main browser with FF and Chromium as backups (in that order). I actually prefer using system wide "Glimmerblocker" (with the addition of "pgl.yoyo.org" filter for adblocking as apposed to an adblock extensions in Safari. Page loading is a bit faster and blocks those pesky video ads on youtube and video chat sites.
SSD trim? What's that?
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Safari's ClickToFlash extension blocks video on everything. I love it.
No you can't unless you are talking manually doing it... and who wants to do that?
Let me show you how easy this is in Firefox.
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I'm a front-end web developer, so the first thing I do after restarting my Mac is to fire up Safari, Chrome and Firefox (I'll use IE and Opera mostly just for testing).
I use all three all day long. It helps me segregate my work; I might use Firefox and Firebug to preview and debug my work, Chrome for research, and Safari for another project. It really varies from day to day. None the less, I use all 3 a lot.
I really want to make Safari my primary general use browser, but there are a few things holding me back. As others have mentioned, tab management still needs work. Please give us favicons in the tabs, it makes it so much easier to find the right tab with several open tabs. I really miss pinned tabs, too. Again, when managing a ton of open tabs, that feature really helps.
Another Safari shortcoming - address bar handling. The latest version has improved, but I still have a problem actually clicking inside the URL address bar. I am also highly reliant on the 'paste and go' feature supported by both Firefox and Chrome. I spend a lot of time copying URLs from one source and pasting into the browser, so paste and go (and paste and search) is a really useful feature for me.
So like a lot of other people, Safari still falls a bit short on giving users the ability to make the browser 'just so'. I love the speed and lower CPU/Memory overhead of Safari, and some of the new developer tools look really helpful, but the lack of the features mentioned above cause just enough friction to keep Safari as a secondary browser for me.
Also, Chrome Canary 64-bit makes a huge difference on my MBP. 32-bit Chrome just killed the battery and hammered my CPU. Chrome Canary makes it easier for me to lean on Chrome as my #1 browser, but I'd switch to Safari if Apple improved support for extensions to allow 3rd parties to bring these features to Safari.
I use all three all day long. It helps me segregate my work; I might use Firefox and Firebug to preview and debug my work, Chrome for research, and Safari for another project. It really varies from day to day. None the less, I use all 3 a lot.
I really want to make Safari my primary general use browser, but there are a few things holding me back. As others have mentioned, tab management still needs work. Please give us favicons in the tabs, it makes it so much easier to find the right tab with several open tabs. I really miss pinned tabs, too. Again, when managing a ton of open tabs, that feature really helps.
Another Safari shortcoming - address bar handling. The latest version has improved, but I still have a problem actually clicking inside the URL address bar. I am also highly reliant on the 'paste and go' feature supported by both Firefox and Chrome. I spend a lot of time copying URLs from one source and pasting into the browser, so paste and go (and paste and search) is a really useful feature for me.
So like a lot of other people, Safari still falls a bit short on giving users the ability to make the browser 'just so'. I love the speed and lower CPU/Memory overhead of Safari, and some of the new developer tools look really helpful, but the lack of the features mentioned above cause just enough friction to keep Safari as a secondary browser for me.
Also, Chrome Canary 64-bit makes a huge difference on my MBP. 32-bit Chrome just killed the battery and hammered my CPU. Chrome Canary makes it easier for me to lean on Chrome as my #1 browser, but I'd switch to Safari if Apple improved support for extensions to allow 3rd parties to bring these features to Safari.
Why? Every non-Safari using poster on this thread has given their own reasons for not using Safari (yet).
I'd like to use Safari more often, but can't live without some Firefox extensions that aren't available on Safari at the moment. I hope that changes, but I've been waiting for years.
I'm not sure about Android, but the iCloud Bookmarks addon for Chrome allows you to do just that on Windows.
