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This should be the norm not a special thing. If you can perform your job from anywhere in the world, you shouldn't be required to commute to another place to do it. Less air pollution, less overhead for companies since they won't space for all of those people, less traffic accidents, employees can sleep a little later and hopefully be more productive. And yeah, less germs being spread too (not just the current corona germ of the month). So many advantages. Boggles my mind that so many people are forced to commute when they shouldn't need to.

I'm a software developer and can do my job pretty much completely at home. And if that fails, I'm a 2 mile drive. I walk it in the summer. But I'm only allowed 1 day per week at home. It's insane. I'm far more productive there than here. If things get bad here (Portland, OR) and we end up working from home, I'm hoping it goes so well management realizes how stupid the 1 day/week thing is.
 
Yeah, I’m not ashamed to admit that I’m extremely worried about this virus.
I actually have an upcoming appointment/surgery that has me somewhat concerned, regarding where it will be done. I am over 70, and in good health. However, I was recently diagnosed with two issues related to my heart: Aortic Stenosis (ie, my Aortic Valve needs to be replaced), and one of my arteries is blocked. I have an appointment with the heart surgeon on Tuesday afternoon, and assuming my conditions are not too "serious" (from all the indications I have received, that seems to be the case), the non-invasive surgery could be scheduled the following week. In fact, a procedure known as a Transcatheter aortic valve replacement (TAVR) can be used to resolve both issues. The advantage of doing such a procedure is that recovery time is fast, typically 4 to 6 weeks. And I want to get it done as soon as possible.

As it is, due to some pain I get across my heart whenever I even do some mild exercise (like walking), the heart specialist I have been seeing told me to stop doing exercise (I also like to go swimming during the winter, but that a no no, at least for now). I am typically an active person, and with the longer days just around the corner (we spring forward Sunday morning), and (hopefully) nicer weather, I will want to be outside . There is also a spring activity I do every year, starting in mid-April, that is also good for my health.

The possible reason for some "concern" is that last night, one of the Coronavirus patients from that Care facility in Kirkland, WA (north of Seattle, in King County) was transferred to a hospital in Piece County, and the hospital where I would have my surgery is in Piece County (different one). Probably I am over reacting, and I suspect the surgeon will quell down my fears/anxiety. That transfer will be the first case of that virus to be "reported" in Pierce county.
 
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This all seems over-hyped to me. Good rule of thumb is the very young, elderly and those with compromised immune systems may want to avoid area with large crowds.
Everyone should continue going about your business being mindful to wash your hands with soap and water frequently and avoid touching your face. If you are feeling unwell... then definitely stay home.

Washing your hands won’t mean much if someone with your attitude ends up with it and coughs or sneezes on you and boom ... infected.

Hate to break it to you, but see modern society? It’s full of manky, inconsiderate, ill mannered reprobates.
 
I'm a software developer and can do my job pretty much completely at home. And if that fails, I'm a 2 mile drive. I walk it in the summer. But I'm only allowed 1 day per week at home. It's insane. I'm far more productive there than here. If things get bad here (Portland, OR) and we end up working from home, I'm hoping it goes so well management realizes how stupid the 1 day/week thing is.

I think the 1 day/week thing is probably for in-person interactions. The fact that they give you 4 days off is already very good. I'm a software engineer lead, and I can work from home most days. However, the interaction onsite has value to it. It's not the same as if you went over Zoom/Bluejeans -- especially if you are trying to whiteboard.

If you are a developer that doesn't really (need to) interact, then that's a different story.
 
I'm going to the BNP Paribas Open Tennis tournament next week and just got an email saying they are giving refunds for people who request them and also the list of precautions they are taking.

I don't see WWDC happening though.
 
This should be the norm not a special thing. If you can perform your job from anywhere in the world, you shouldn't be required to commute to another place to do it. Less air pollution, less overhead for companies since they won't space for all of those people, less traffic accidents, employees can sleep a little later and hopefully be more productive. And yeah, less germs being spread too (not just the current corona germ of the month). So many advantages. Boggles my mind that so many people are forced to commute when they shouldn't need to.
It also tends to have a positive affect on the worker's neighborhoods, as they spend more money locally rather than near their work office.
Since when is attempting to slow down the spread of the virus considered soft? But yea, you're such a tough guy. What an absolute b@d @$$ you are.
keyboard courage
 
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Have you seen Italy?
Yeah, that's definitely the biggest concern to me
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Washing your hands won’t mean much if someone with your attitude ends up with it and coughs or sneezes on you and boom ... infected.

Hate to break it to you, but see modern society? It’s full of manky, inconsiderate, ill mannered reprobates.
Meh. He's right though. This is a serious disease, however you fight it like any other coronavirus: soap and water.
 
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they shoulda implemented a "work from home" mandate during the black plague
Broadband internet was not as prevalent then.
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In the process you also pass it on to people whose immune systems may not be able to fight it, like the elderly or people with pre-existing conditions.
This. Someone who is comparatively healthy picks it up at work from someone who shouldn't have come to the office dammit (who maybe thought, "People are so soft, Just go to work"), and unknowingly takes it home to an elderly relative, immunity-compromised child, etc. And now the person who decided they could "tough it out" has put someone they've never met in the hospital.
 
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Come back at me when you're middle aged and **** parts breaking down....
^^^ Yes well said !
When you get older your immune system and other systems are not working as well as they used to.

COVID-19 mortality is a direct relationship to age so I will be more susceptible to getting complications...

I really hate getting old but then I love how much more wisdom I have acquired over the young-guns..
 
I’ll tell my staff in the hospital to stay at home?
Did you read what I wrote? If your hospital staff are sick then yes they should not be at the hospital spreading their illness.
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Washing your hands won’t mean much if someone with your attitude ends up with it and coughs or sneezes on you and boom ... infected.

Hate to break it to you, but see modern society? It’s full of manky, inconsiderate, ill mannered reprobates.
That’s fine then. Join the hysteria and hide in your basement. It’s your choice.
 
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You are showing your age!

I get it, but I don’t think the younger ones here grew up listening to the classic sets from (the now disgraced) Cos…
Gives ‘em something to Google while they’re working from home...
 
Does this "work from home" memo apply to all Apple employees in Santa Clara or just the desk jockeys? If I were a janitor, I'd love to work from home. Sure the floors and toilets at the office might stay dirty, but my floor and toilet at home would be clean.:D

a great time for janitors to form a union or get exceptional pay raise as they will be at extreme risk.
 
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Too little, too late. Anybody who didn't already insist on working from home weeks ago has probably been exposed.
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My job is easy: retirement!

Meanwhile, in Seattle (not very far from me), the University of Washington and Seattle University have both canceled classes for today, and will start on-line teaching on Monday:


I wish there was an easy way for me to get the word out that I would be available for tutoring Mathematics students, as I have a MS degree in Mathematics. And I have taught before on a part-time basis at some community colleges.

and Apple is keeping its Seattle retail stores open ... nuts
 
This all seems over-hyped to me. Good rule of thumb is the very young, elderly and those with compromised immune systems may want to avoid area with large crowds.
Everyone should continue going about your business being mindful to wash your hands with soap and water frequently and avoid touching your face. If you are feeling unwell... then definitely stay home.

I do see your point. However, we should include anyone who is in regular contact with those who are very young, elderly, or have compromised immune systems. That's a significant part of the population.

For example, my girlfriend has a seriously compromised immune system. If she stays at home from work, she is still in serious danger from me, her daughters, her parents, and her closest friends.
 
I work not far from there and my company told us to work at home today and maybe through Monday while they clean. We have about 3K people on site. Companies are freaking out!
 
Kinda the irony with this brand spanking new 'campus'. Jobs apparently new very little about flexible working arrangements?
 
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