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Those iMac mockups are beautiful. Really hope they are on there way along with the 16gb flash based ipod!!!

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Part of the problem with those mockups is that the monitor is almost Movie aspect ratio rather than 16:10 or whatever the hell it is. Although i don't see a reason why Apple couldn't do that if the vertical resolution was good enough!
 
i do not understand why people think redesigned imac means, change the machine, leave the stand untouched. that is way too half-ass for ive. i think that the mockups are derived so much off of the current design that they lack the vision needed to meet apple's standard of a redesigned system. i appreciate the insight attempted by the renderings, i simply think that it shows where normal minds stop and ive/jobs begin.

I agree. No reason to think the stand will be the same at all. For instance, moving the power supply to the stand along with maybe the hard drive would give them enough of a 'heat budget' to use real desktop processors. :D
 
Too low to the desk for me. I really hope Apple make something with a screen that's a little more movable than the mock up versions we keep seeing. I love the simplicity of the latest iMac but the iMac G4 is very good in that you can really tilt or swivel the screen to where you want it.
 
I agree. No reason to think the stand will be the same at all. For instance, moving the power supply to the stand along with maybe the hard drive would give them enough of a 'heat budget' to use real desktop processors. :D

Hey, I thought of moving the PSU to the stand too, but not the hard drive! Great idea! Plus, how about some ports attached to the base in the front?

Oh, and on those mockups and even the real model the alu base and white/black around the screen doesn't look good.
 
Here's how it'll go (I think):

1. Intro. Mac sales figures
2. iLife
3. iWork
4. .Mac (which will be heavely tied in with iLife and iWork)
5. One more thing... (choose either 6a or 6b)
6a. You'll need a computer to use that with
6b. Release date of Leopard

Or the release date will be thown in the presenation somewhere.
 
Here's how it'll go (I think):

1. Intro. Mac sales figures
2. iLife
3. iWork
4. .Mac (which will be heavely tied in with iLife and iWork)
5. One more thing... (choose either 6a or 6b)
6a. You'll need a computer to use that with
6b. Release date of Leopard

Or the release date will be thown in the presenation somewhere.
iMac will be the vital portion of the meeting.
 
Here is why there will be no touchscreen:

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You know people were saying the same thing about the iPhone/widescreen iPod before it came out.
No. A touchscreen on a pocketable computer phone makes perfect sense. A touchscreen on a desktop computer makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
 
No. A touchscreen on a pocketable computer phone makes perfect sense. A touchscreen on a desktop computer makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

I agree that there will almost certainly be no touch screen tomorrow. And while I don't see the logic behind a touchscreen desktop computer, you have to imagine that people said the same thing about needing a mouse to control a computer. When I'm posting about future technology that I think is unlikely, I think back to the MacRumors threads from people right after the original iPod announcement, way back in time, who said "what a stupid idea" and "it'll never sell".
 
To anyone who thinks there will EVER be a touch screen iMac, reach out and touch your screen today, a few dozen times within a five minute period. Do you think it's a good idea? If you do, your arms and shoulders are a lot stronger than mine.

Sorry...back on topic.
 
To anyone who thinks there will EVER be a touch screen iMac, reach out and touch your screen today, a few dozen times within a five minute period. Do you think it's a good idea? If you do, your arms and shoulders are a lot stronger than mine.

Agreed, but why not thinking about a toch display like wacom cintiq?
 
To anyone who thinks there will EVER be a touch screen iMac, reach out and touch your screen today, a few dozen times within a five minute period. Do you think it's a good idea? If you do, your arms and shoulders are a lot stronger than mine.
No. A touchscreen on a pocketable computer phone makes perfect sense. A touchscreen on a desktop computer makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
You make the mistake of assuming that it will remain a desktop computer in the traditional sense. You reach out and touch your keyboard and mouse with few problems. You look down to read books with few problems. Placing a touchscreen display on a desk surface (either integrated into it or resting on top of it) is no more laborious than using a keyboard and has all sorts of benefits from direct interaction to reduced eyestrain and being able to examine fine details more easily.

I'm not saying that's what the iMac will be or should be. But like the "smudge" people (have they never looked at their keyboards? Do they not clean them every few days like they should?), it doesn't make sense to dismiss a technology based on preconceptions of how current designs and functionality limit it.

It's far easier to clean a screen than a keyboard. Anything your hand touches should be cleaned at the same interval regardless--mice, keyboard, display. It makes no difference. It also makes no difference when looking through a surface designed for touch interaction. Just because a smudge on your LCD is visible doesn't mean that it would be on a touch panel--they're built differently. A traditional LCD isn't meant to be touched. It's positioned perpendicular to the ground, which is tiring to use without standing, and it's not coated to protect it against skin oils. It's not hard to imagine solutions for these problems, especially since solutions already exist.
 
You make the mistake of assuming that it will remain a desktop computer in the traditional sense. You reach out and touch your keyboard and mouse with few problems. You look down to read books with few problems. Placing a touchscreen display on a desk surface (either integrated into it or resting on top of it) is no more laborious than using a keyboard and has all sorts of benefits from direct interaction to reduced eyestrain and being able to examine fine details more easily.

I'm not saying that's what the iMac will be or should be. But like the "smudge" people (have they never looked at their keyboards? Do they not clean them every few days like they should?), it doesn't make sense to dismiss a technology based on preconceptions of how current designs and functionality limit it.

It's far easier to clean a screen than a keyboard. Anything your hand touches should be cleaned at the same interval regardless--mice, keyboard, display. It makes no difference. It also makes no difference when looking through a surface designed for touch interaction. Just because a smudge on your LCD is visible doesn't mean that it would be on a touch panel--they're built differently. A traditional LCD isn't meant to be touched. It's positioned perpendicular to the ground, which is tiring to use without standing, and it's not coated to protect it against skin oils. It's not hard to imagine solutions for these problems, especially since solutions already exist.


actually a multi touch computer laying on a desk would be more ergonomical for your hands and eyes. but you have to understand that yea your keyboard needs the same cleaning but you are instantly smudging what you are looking at. so you would need to clean the screen every few seconds


but i do see a mactablet in the near future
 
A computer screen laying flat or nearly flat on my desk would take up too much desk space. I can see this for specialty purposes, but for the vast majority of us, it doesn't seem practical.

On a tablet Mac, obviously, a touch screen makes a lot of sense.
 
but you have to understand that yea your keyboard needs the same cleaning but you are instantly smudging what you are looking at. so you would need to clean the screen every few seconds
That's utterly ludicrous. You can't see the "smudges" over the backlight unless you're leaving puddles on the display. If you'd used high-end touch displays on a regular basis, you'd know that. The coatings used are specially coated for streaks and optimal transparency, and they work very well.

A computer screen laying flat or nearly flat on my desk would take up too much desk space. I can see this for specialty purposes, but for the vast majority of us, it doesn't seem practical.
It doesn't have to take up any more desk surface area than a current iMac. Why would it? Put it on a tilting base and tilt the screen near horizontal when using the touch interface for an extended period. Then, pull the display up, similar to the current iMac, and slide it back when you're using the keyboard and mouse primarily. If you don't use the multitouch interface much, there's no reason to treat it differently than any other machine you might use.
 
It doesn't have to take up any more desk surface area than a current iMac. Why would it? Put it on a tilting base and tilt the screen near horizontal when using the touch interface for an extended period. Then, pull the display up, similar to the current iMac, and slide it back when you're using the keyboard and mouse primarily. If you don't use the multitouch interface much, there's no reason to treat it differently than any other machine you might use.
Seems quite silly. I like my display pointing at me - and as such, multitouch would be utterly pointless. Lifting my arms up to point and touch the screen makes no sense when I have a perfectly functional mouse and keyboard to interface with the machine...
 
Seems quite silly. I like my display pointing at me - and as such, multitouch would be utterly pointless.
If you don't use the multitouch interface much, there's no reason to treat it differently than any other machine you might use.
Of course, the real issue is why you don't use it. If we were having this discussion 25 years ago, you'd be saying the same thing about the mouse. It was more or less pointless (no pun intended), but it rapidly became invaluable.
 
What i think that will coming tonight (Europe time;))

Touchscreen iMac.

Why?

Why Not?
Let's think about all the patents, the recent used technology in the iPhone, buying Fingerworks, the great succes of the iPhone etc.

But wait, you can't work with your big fat fingers in photoshop! You must have a mouse and a keyboard for this sort of work. Now that's where the fun starts to happen. An iMac with a dock for working on a desktop. Eject the iMac and it will be a tablet with iPhone similar interface, only bigger, with a decent keyboard. Here's a simple mock-up i made a few months ago:

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Don't care about the design, but look at my idea... :)
 
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