What doesn't hold up, is your claim that your iPad 2, or anyone elses, isn't useless with iOS 9.
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Aside from the fact that I haven't made any claims about any of my devices, what you just said doesn't seem to hold up with you said (in relation to "everyone") in the reply just prior to that:
iPad 2 on iOS 10 is garbage. I wouldn't wish that tablet on my worst enemy. Never used such a horrible device.
This is your response to someone wanting a professional notebook? In what capacity is the iMac Pro an acceptable product in the professional notebook category?
I assume it's a typo and you meant to say iOS 9. But at that point, it had been 5 years since the iPad was released. I think it has more than paid for itself and it's time to upgrade and move on.
I have been using Macs since System 7.x. Never owned anything else. I've had numerous Mac desktops as well as assorted PowerBooks along the way. My last notebook Mac was the first generation MacBook Pro right after the Intel transition happened. The PowerBooks and that MacBook Pro were great machines, in my opinion. I sold the MBP a number of years ago because I haven't needed a notebook these past few years, so I was out of the loop on the current state of the MacBook Pro until the need arose again and I was issued one at work...
...and, wow, does that machine offend my sensibilities. I feel exactly as you do: I don't want the thinnest notebook on the planet. If I did, I would have requested my employer to issue me an Air. I don't want USB-C dongle hell, I just want a few useful, basic ports. I want an acceptable keyboard with an escape key, not a stupid touch bar. I want arrow keys that are actually laid out properly for *actual usage*, not squished together because Jony Ive wants to enforce some kind of pathetic keyboard symmetry. I don't think this is asking for too much in a notebook line that carries the moniker "Pro." It's probably a great piece of hardware for consumers (and I accept that plenty of people like them) but it's not a professional grade machine. Slap lipstick on a pig, it's still a pig. The MacBook Pro of today bears little resemblance to what some of us were used to getting with the PowerBook and early MacBook Pro lines.
After extensive deliberation and reflection, I've also come to the conclusion that Apple is no longer interested in people like me. And that's fine for them, I suppose. They don't owe me anything. So I have a ThinkPad coming in next week that I'm going to be putting Linux on. I considered the Hackintosh route, but why go through that much effort to load up an operating system from a company that doesn't care about my computing needs? The MBP will now stay at work, docked into an external display with a keyboard and mouse attached to the expensive USB-C dongles and for my own mobile computing needs I will have a machine that suits me (yeah, ThinkPads don't look as nice, but I need functionality, not a Starbucks showpiece).
All fits in what was mentioned in relation to the whole anecdotal aspect of it.
No planned obsolescence? So it’s possible for a consumer to pay thousands for a computer (handheld, laptop or desktop) that will last 20 years instead of 5? This cycle of our paying for Moore’s Law is a corporate myth? They don’t hold back features to roll out in a “new, better” system year after year, hop-scotching software and hardware upgrades? Maybe we’re still supporting real computer evolution with our “upgrade” purchases. I really don’t know, but I do wonder.
So I understand your sentiment and frustration, but by going Linux you are going to a completely different plane of existence in many ways inferior and far less elegant than macOS, all because you don't wanna carry a usb-c dongle? Why not get a MBP 2013-2015? That machine has everything you need, it's great and relatively inexpensive.
I disagree. I've been running a distro with KDE for about a week now on my iMac and it's actually far better than I assumed it would be. I'm actually impressed. Linux has come a long way.
No. The USB-C dongles are merely symptomatic of the greater issue at hand which is the fact that Apple no longer makes a professional notebook.
I considered this, too, but why should I have to buy a 5-year-old machine? If Apple doesn't want my money by no longer manufacturing computers that cater to basic requirements, then my checkbook is closed to them.
My issue with planned obsolescence is this:
In the past it has been great to buy new hardware and enjoy the nee OS that supported nee features.
Today it’s mostly about price.
I cannot justify spending more and more for hardware that fails and is not serviceable without spending large sums of money. The performance is not increasing to justify the price increase, Apple is shrinkink battery capacity, removing features you need to buy adapters for and decreasing overall quality.
The keyboard is a liability, as well as the super thin display and hinge.
You can buy a Lenovo Laptop and drop something on its cover.
It will scratch and look super ugly, but it will not bend your displax or casing, damage your keyboard, etc.
The times when I would spend $3500 on a MacBook, by unreliable adapters and life with less battery capacity that is covered up with power saving features and throttling are over.
The disappointment comes from the colorful picture drawn by Apple Marketing that leaves you regretting buying new hardware immediately.
The MacBook 2016/17 line is a failure, iMac Pro is a failure in design and pricing.
The new Mac Pro will be no different.
The only thing Apple has to maintain is the iPhone and the illusion of features.
WWDC 2018 was boring as hell, which is a shame for all the engineers working on Swift, Machine Learning, etc.
But as far as usable innovation goes, it’s a complete failure.
In the past it has been great to buy new hardware and enjoy the nee OS that supported nee features.
Today it’s mostly about price.
I cannot justify spending more and more for hardware that fails and is not serviceable without spending large sums of money. The performance is not increasing to justify the price increase, Apple is shrinkink battery capacity, removing features you need to buy adapters for and decreasing overall quality.
The keyboard is a liability, as well as the super thin display and hinge.
You can buy a Lenovo Laptop and drop something on its cover.
It will scratch and look super ugly, but it will not bend your displax or casing, damage your keyboard, etc.
The times when I would spend $3500 on a MacBook, by unreliable adapters and life with less battery capacity that is covered up with power saving features and throttling are over.
The disappointment comes from the colorful picture drawn by Apple Marketing that leaves you regretting buying new hardware immediately.
The MacBook 2016/17 line is a failure, iMac Pro is a failure in design and pricing.
The new Mac Pro will be no different.
The only thing Apple has to maintain is the iPhone and the illusion of features.
WWDC 2018 was boring as hell, which is a shame for all the engineers working on Swift, Machine Learning, etc.
But as far as usable innovation goes, it’s a complete failure.
For you. iPad 2 on iOS 9 works fine for my needs. for a 7 year old tablet it’s held its own.
You were the one that mentioned "huge leap" for consumers, what does it mean?
As far as XP vs 10 I can do the same work on Windows xp vs windows 10, hence the comment. You are being pedantic. Of course with XP one is living with an unpatched O/S.
To bring this back to topic, that is not the same with ios 6 vs ios 7, however the same comments could apply from ios 7 to ios 11..
Let’s see:
- Showing photos synches with iTunes
- Streaming consumption
- Browsing
- Reading news
- Watching tv
- Listening to music
- Etc
Bull. Just browsing simple pages is a scrolling nightmare and a test in patience. And the scrolling is useless, in literally every app. Native and 3rd party, streaming or reading.
Even a simple task as getting the keyboard to show up to type something, without an ulcer-causing delay, and then the lag when you're finally getting to type, is more than useless in it self.
These, and more, are issues so bad and useless, that it drives people to buy new hardware.
That is the point. Planned og engineered, doesn't matter. It's happening.
[doublepost=1528571256][/doublepost]Not to mention the crappy design on the charging cable, which easily breaks it and makes it impossible to charge.
What your take is on my iPad 2 is not up for debate. It works perfectly fine for my needs and if not, I would have upgraded. As far as ulcer-causing delay, that may be a bit hyperbolic.
This is the problem with our disposable, post-consumerism, society.
Your post sounds like a typical conspiracy theorists' response. I doubt that some people have the time to pretend they own x,y,z just to troll. That is just plain stupid. And it's even more stupid to believe that people are actually doing what you claim. Then again some people pick and choose what to believe/deny. *Shrugs*
It's a trope and it has been happening for decades (at least 32 years I've been on it) all over the internet.
It has only got worse and worse with time.
So you got, popular with a high public profile company some random event that can be used a justification for trash post and soon you got a slew of "Owned blah blah blah blah since blah blah blah and now it's gone to crap because blah blah blah. (tm)". It's basically a "button pushing" contrarian position, seeing what rises they get is the whole point of those posts.
You can easily distinguish people that post those things cause although they claim to have owned Apple products for ages, they seemingly don't know anything about Apple's historic pricing, policies, engineering, business or ethical decisions or even the products they claim to have owned. The argument is always over the top bordering on histrionics unrelated in proportions to the alleged Apple fault. They often claim to own a ton of recent Apple products they bought well after, by their posting history, starting saying everything Apple does is a piece of crap.
People who actually owned Apple products for years don't usually feel the need to constantly remind us of that fact and if they do, it seems to be backed by actual real world usage in the way they speak about those products. The arguments are usually more level headed and based on what is actually happening. Their post history reflect a conflicted recent view of Apple that had an effect in them buying less products, not more!
So, I'm not against people feeling Apple let them down in a narrow sense.
As for trolls.
Yeah, it does takes a twisted personality to be a button pusher and live in a forum you despise all the time, but that's where we are right now. On Youtube, Instagram, Yahoo forums, whatever... Everywhere it's the same thing: trolls, trolls, everywhere. No conspiracy needed for such a thing to happen, just the knowledge that if you get enough losers online (which has happened in the last decade for sure), there will be consequences in the quality of overall discourse.
And yeah, I've been on the internet since 1985 (it did exist back then for people in big engineering degree granting universities ) and I'm pretty good at knowing the motivation behind the posters after all this time.
The software that Apple push to older devices is essentially a 'lite' version and for the most part the phones that are supported run perfectly well. My iPhone 5s was just as good on iOS 11 last year. I've since bought a 6s, which has also been absolutely fine. I had a 4 and 5, and don't remember either of them being particularly crippled by later iOS updates either... Perhaps my perception of speed is different to younger generations. I remember when I used to have to wait for the modem to dial out before I could use the internet and it would take about five hours to download a 4 minute song.
If you updated your iPhone 4 to iOS 7 and did not notice the fact that it became nearly unusable, then... wow. I still have my 4S, which had double the processing power to the 4 and using it with iOS 9 is like trying to run a marathon with cinder blocks tied to me feet. The updates basically ruined my phone.
And no, it's not generational. I'm old enough to remember the days when messaging people meant writing letters. The updates ruined my phone and I was forced into upgrading before I was ready.
I didn't say "huge leap for consumers"(which is something very subjective and thta's why you mentioned it this way). I simply said they were huge changes.
That doesn't mean that W10 is skinned version of XP at all.
I'm not being pedantic anything, your claim that W10 is a skinned version of XP is simply wrong.
I will repost the link that clearly shows that there is no way W10 could be skinned version of XP:
https://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/contents/articles/31048.architecture-of-windows-10.aspx
It's absolutely not the same.
Also I see you have no opinion about Macs not supporting facial unlock biometrics although you tried to ridicule Microsoft for implementing it "after 15 years".
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My take is that for most people, the performance of your iPad 2 is more than enough for them to upgrade the hardware. Apple knows this.