The thing is the average customer expects electronics to slow down over time so they play right into their hands. My mom tells me her iPhone has slowed down but she isn’t fazed by it because its an iPhone 6s which is 3 years old and its time to get a new one. People don’t like change and they stick to the same OS.
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Apple Executive Greg Joswiak Dismisses Planned Obsolescence as 'Craziest Thinking in the World'
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The thing is the average customer expects electronics to slow down over time so they play right into their hands. My mom tells me her iPhone has slowed down but she isn’t fazed by it because its an iPhone 6s which is 3 years old and its time to get a new one. People don’t like change and they stick to the same OS.
And in the phone world, they’re right. But it’s not because companies are evil and slow them down on purpose.
Is there an iOS device from 2009 thats still getting updates? I mean I understand the frustration, but I never expected my late 2007 MacBook to still get OS updates. It still works fine for my 8 year old daughter to play around on, but its old. In the technology world something from 2009 (like you mentioned) isn't just old, its ancient. The thing I hate is the current model MacBooks can't be upgraded. Those are the ones that are not as future proof.
When that Throttlegate fiasco happened, many media agencies and newspapers worldwide were publishing about planned obsolescence and the average customer started to know about it. Many of the headlines used words like "Intentionally slowing down" and all and thir core customer base got the wind of it. Till then Apple was ignoring the issue even when Geekbench founder came down hard upon them. Its only when it got widespread publicity, they decided to own up to it and iOS 12 is an attempt at winning back customer trust
But that has nothing to do with Planned Obsolescence.
In fact, the whole bug fixes and performance improvements thing won’t be related to that either.
"Apple Executive Greg Joswiak Dismisses Planned Obsolescence as 'Craziest Thinking in the World'"?
Really?
Programmed obsolescence. All-in-one (AIO) computers like iMac are a huge aggression to planet Earth. Computers may last for seven years or less, whereas displays may last for more than 20 years. I am using an Apple Cinema Display 22-inch purchased more than 18 years ago and it works great. And it has been on an average of 15 hours a day, 356 days each year.
Really?
Programmed obsolescence. All-in-one (AIO) computers like iMac are a huge aggression to planet Earth. Computers may last for seven years or less, whereas displays may last for more than 20 years. I am using an Apple Cinema Display 22-inch purchased more than 18 years ago and it works great. And it has been on an average of 15 hours a day, 356 days each year.
This image would have been so much cooler had I been able to tile it as my wallpaper across my desktop and have all the iPhone images line up top-to-bottom so they made a seamless, continual wall of iPhones. Just saying.
Ah, analogies.
You can have a 20 year old Mac and be proud of it, but it won't do all the crazy new stuff a new washer will do, it'll be less efficient, and waaaaayyyy out of warranty. You can still use it to do the things you used to do with it even!
Just know that the risk of it failing you, and being to costly to repair, just grows over time.
I hope if people are benchmarking iOS 12, they'll benchmark it against a fresh install of iOS 11. And, ideally, follow it up later with a comparison of a few-weeks-old install of both.
In my experience, every iOS install initially goes great, but the device slows down over a few weeks.
In my experience, every iOS install initially goes great, but the device slows down over a few weeks.
My iPhone 5 can’t be updated to iOS 11. Last supported iOS release was 10, released in 2016. Support was dropped for it September, 2017. I got the phone in November, 2012.
5 years support for that iOS device is noticeably less than 9 years of macOS support for a 2009 Mac.
Because your video proved:
A. Apple doesn’t slow down devices as iOS 7 is not categorically faster than 8,9, 10, 11, 12, and
B. Greg Joswiak States Apple doesn’t slow down devices to spur sales.
C. Throttle gate only existed in peoples mind, like Bend gate.
If Apple had decided to maintain MacOS Mojave for 2011 Macs with the built-in Apple apps ported over from iOS unable to launch due to requiring Metal, 2011 Mac owners would be much more likely to expect support to end after Mojave. One more year of support can make a big difference.
To make matters worse, it's also confusing how Apple's strategies on iOS and MacOS are so radically different. I've already seen someone erroneously apply the iOS announcement to MacOS and claim my 2011 Mac would still be supported in Mojave.
The idea that Apple would intentionally make your experience crappy so they can get you to spend more money is nonsense. You don’t retain customers (and have them potentially recommend your product/services to others) if you’re intentionally providing a crappy experience. Normally when people have crappy experiences they go elsewhere. iOS isn’t a monopoly, it’s not that difficult to switch platforms. Now I sometimes wish they weren’t as obsessed with upselling but that’s marketing 101 not planned obsolescence.
And Apple delivers. What does the current machine offerings do that aren't enough for you? I use mine for 3D and development work. I run Maya, Mari, Houdini, Modo, ZBrush, Substance Suite, Xcode and more with excellent performance. I'd love to know what you're doing that renders the current selection "not pro enough".
To be fair, you ARE talking about Macs that are a minimum of 7 years old; which is not quite the same as iOS devices that are 5 years old.
I believe the dividing-line is actually whether the GPU can support Metal or not.
Also, there are reports of people already getting Mojave running on unsupported Macs (e.g., a 2009 Macbook Pro); so give the MacHacker Community a little time...
It literally, not figuratively, isn't a reasonable request. It's obvious you have no clue about the sheer scope of work involved in such a thing.
Performance? Please point out how non upgradable RAM leads to better performance. That sounds like planned obselence to me. User upgrable parts does not equal slower. They used the same form factor for the 2012 and 2014 Mac mini’s.
Isn’t Throttlegate that battery thing, though?
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It sounds like it to you because you have a preconceived notion and this evidence can support it.
Then perhaps you can explain to me how Apple used both Metal and OpenGL in High Sierra, since according to you it is literally impossible to do?
It's not just Apple. We have current generation "thin" Dell and Lenovo laptops and they are just as user unserviceable as our current MacBook Pros. When they die outside of warranty, they get tossed same with the MacBook Pros.
or sell it. Yah, thats what people do. You could go with a surface -pro. Oh wait, those are even less repairable and have a do not buy rating from Consumer Reports (at least they did). If you want a tower, get one.
BTW: I believe you can upgrade your SSDs and replace batteries, take it to a repair shop, someone who actually knows how to take it apart and put it back together without breaking it. Or try it yourself, break it, throw it out and get a new one? I guess thats what you said originally, sorry!
Oh and doesn’t planned = intentional? Just because new software might not always work well on older hardware doesn’t mean it was intentionally designed that way.
My guess would be that they hadn’t moved large portions of the system over to Metal.
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I wish I could give you a thousand thumbs up.