I love it when the bring out the upgrade rates, the only reason they get those is because they force their phones to download the updates and you loose over 1GB of storage until you upgrade, so you either upgrade or have less capacity.
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Apple Executive Greg Joswiak Dismisses Planned Obsolescence as 'Craziest Thinking in the World'
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Hmmmm my almost 9yr old HP ryns win10 like a champ.
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I actually don't think Apple plans out obsolescence but I have to be honest, a week before the release of X, my 7+ started going wonky freezing for 10-15 minutes before restarting itself, something thats never really happened before. It did this several times in the days leading up to the X announcement.
The timing was all too convenient. Luckily I was waiting for the 2018 model already.
The timing was all too convenient. Luckily I was waiting for the 2018 model already.
Obviously Apple execs playing the game like champs. Funny how many suck up all that smoke proudly.
There are 2010, 2011 & 2012 upgraded mbps that outperform the current 12" mb crap, even the mini is getting smoked by some. They attribute no support due to lack of dedicated GPUs as if they were squeezing 1080's now lol.
You put out a mediocre version of iOS (11) and now come up saying iOS12 will double speeds it's just hilarious the level of kindergarten speech here and users repeating like parrots. We have some of our iPhone 6s & 7 lagging on simple crap like typing letters on messages, notes, safari urls or whatsapp and you say it's due to "new tech". You guys are brilliant.
If you are going to cut off people with older machines at least release proper new ones!
There are 2010, 2011 & 2012 upgraded mbps that outperform the current 12" mb crap, even the mini is getting smoked by some. They attribute no support due to lack of dedicated GPUs as if they were squeezing 1080's now lol.
You put out a mediocre version of iOS (11) and now come up saying iOS12 will double speeds it's just hilarious the level of kindergarten speech here and users repeating like parrots. We have some of our iPhone 6s & 7 lagging on simple crap like typing letters on messages, notes, safari urls or whatsapp and you say it's due to "new tech". You guys are brilliant.
If you are going to cut off people with older machines at least release proper new ones!
I'm running Windows 10 Pro on a 2007 Dell Business laptop with 2GB of ram and it runs just fine, zero issues. However I had to upgrade from 4GB to 8GB of ram in my 2012 Mac mini because it began to slow down (memory) with Mavericks.
Tbh, MS has really made a decent effort with win10. I really like it. Everything is fast and easy access to everything. I just cant believe this old HP runs so well, it feels revitalised. It has 6gb ddr3 and 1tb and originally came with win7.
It wasn't throttled for no reason, it was throttled because they had an issue with old batteries that would fail to deliver enough juice to allow full power CPU. Apple, in an attempt to have user keep using their phone without it just shutting off, throttled it. It was a mistake by not letting the user choose if they want to be throttled, or just have the phone shutoff. And they should have also let the user know it was being intentionally throttled.
But my point being it wasn't for no reason
I think that Apple has always been really great at supporting its devices for as long as possible.
The cut offs tend to happen for really good reasons too, ie:
Windows is even better than Apple, however you could argue since it bends over backwards to support practically anything from the last 15 years or so, it’s really hamstrung them when trying to modernise Windows 10.
So I think that Apple makes a great balance between supporting old devices and keeping the platform current and the cruft to a minimum.
The cut offs tend to happen for really good reasons too, ie:
- iOS 7 redesign necessitating a retina screen only phone
- The move to 64 bit only frameworks and core ML in iOS 11 (I think) meant that 32 bit phones couldn’t now be supported.
Windows is even better than Apple, however you could argue since it bends over backwards to support practically anything from the last 15 years or so, it’s really hamstrung them when trying to modernise Windows 10.
So I think that Apple makes a great balance between supporting old devices and keeping the platform current and the cruft to a minimum.
Just wow. You have issues
This is simply not true. Why would any company go out of their way to make their own devices worse? They'd have to be the stupidest company in the world. Apple makes mistakes and Apple does things to make money just like every other smart company does, but to accuse them of going out of their way to sabotage their own products is just plain wrong.
My battery is fine, never shuts off randomly. And the new settings panel says the battery is fine too. I had no problems with anything until I had iOS 11 (but pre 11.3).
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Maybe someone in college, with no car, only spending enough to cover expenses, but still using Apple products for work, then getting pissed when they stop working through no fault of their own? Well that was me a few years ago.
Now I can afford a new iPhone but would rather not bother or waste the $1K after income and sales tax for something that I just use for messaging.
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I can't use Mojave on my mid 2011 Mini, a perfectly good machine, so what is this clown babbling about?
Mavericks was awful. Took a toll on my family's Macs. I had to put an SSD into my Mac Pro to make it usable. The rest of the updates were fine. IDK what went so wrong there.
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They let you delete them now, but you still can't disable it. I used to use an Apple Watch dev profile to avoid it, but that was an even worse idea.
If people are so bitter about Apple products why do you still use them. Go Windows and Android and then we won’t have to hear your complaining anymore. 
They want to stop spending resources and holding back new development to support really old computers. They have the best reason so far here, Metal capability in GPUs. It's not like High Sierra where things got cut seemingly for no reason, though I'll bet they had plenty of reasons we don't know about.
It's been proven, every IOS update will make your phone slower than the previous. This isn't some crazy conspiracy.
Now Apple magically finds a way for a new IOS to run faster than the previous version while calling planned obsolescence crazy. Sure.
Now Apple magically finds a way for a new IOS to run faster than the previous version while calling planned obsolescence crazy. Sure.
When Apple offer an devices with limited hardware, like iPhone 6 with 1GB RAM, and offer a new OS that is going to be slow after one update, it is clearly planned obsolescence.
When Apple stop offer a new OS that old hardware able to run, it is planned obsolescence. Like Apple stop offering newest OS to older Mac.
What does their crappy hardware update cycle have to do with this? Pretty sure the Mac mini is EOL anyway. I'm annoyed with it too, but their software support for Macs is still great.
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Regardless of whether they do it or not, in what world are they going to admit to planned obsolescence?
So far, every major "crazy conspiracy theory" about the iPhone has been true.
- Location tracking: Turns out they saved location to a local file, exposed a few years back and removed.
- Passcode cracking: Was always possible in theory, and GreyKey now does it in practice.
- iOS 11 slowing down the iPhone 6: Yep, throttling even phones without battery problems, since then fixed.
- Killing apps to reduce resource consumption: If you check the remote notification and significant change of location docs, backgrounded apps can wake up from those regardless of user settings, unless they've been killed.
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