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Apple Executives Address Lack of Face ID and Touchscreens on Macs
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You are remembering it wrong. Steve did not want the use of a stylus to be required. Unfortunately he passed before the Apple Pencil was ready and he could announce what a great accessory it is for the iPad.
Nah ... I believe having a 'Pro' device vs regular device IS the new N.American and UK/Euro status symbol. You can already see it in the threads the past several years.
I don't understand what people have against a touch screen and why you think having one makes it cheap. I literally switched to Windows because Apple is to arrogant or stupid (greedy not to cannibalize iPad sells) because I wanted a desktop OS in a Tablet form. If apple would have simply made an iPad running MacOS (OS X) at the time I would have jumped on it. When the Surface devices were released, I said "I want that but with my iPad and OS X" and I really believed it would happen since you know, the did mainstream the whole touch screen and tablet categories...
Boy was I stupid but I still wanted that tablet form so I switched over to a Surface Pro and now a Surface Book as well. I could never get another computer without a touch screen, even if it's just a normal laptop because sometimes it's just easier, quicker and more natural to touch the screen and doesn't make it at all feel like a cheap "Walmart computer". Also guess what? You literally don't ever have to use it, EVER. It doesn't get in your way, doesn't replace something already there so you are forced to use it. It's just an option. The screens still look amazing but now you have the benefit of a new input method to use ONLY if you want.
But at the end Apple is just greedy now and want you to buy an iPad and Mac instead of just one device to get the benefits of both. People need to quit drinking the Apple Kool-Aid or at least be fair when criticizing and don't hate it and think it's pointless just because Apple says so.
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"I just don’t think Apple has figured out how to cut 2/3 from the component thickness"
They know how they're going to do it, or else they wouldn't be preparing now with the notch.
I agree it's not ready for primetime, but it is coming and they know it.
My prediction is next year.
If the iPhone 14 has thinner components, so will the next MBP in 2023. The Air, being less premium will have Touch ID.
Interesting view point, especially in the period that Surface sale has slowed down. Personally I don't believe we will see a hybrid but likely see 2 screens iPad mini kind of like those planner we had 15 years ago. I think if Apple make that it will be a hit.
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Surface sells are not down because people are losing interest in touch screens. Tou do realize that Apple is the ONLY computer manufacture that doesn't have a touch screen computer. Surfaces are down because they hadn't released anything really new in that time frame so there wasn't much demand. Next quarter results will tell a better story with the new releases they have done
Touch Screen is not going away. People want it and the people who don't just literally have to not touch their screen. There is no negative to adding one only benefits for people who want one.
I have two work thinkpqds, one has a touchscreen. I use it fairly often but, and here is what people miss out, in addition to the mouse/trackpad, not as a replacement for them.
Very funny
While I'm not super tall, I measured the distance from the FaceID camera to my face at arms length to approx 27". Alas it's not so easy to test if FaceID works from a distance further away. Perhaps someone taller can do that!I don't think it can work that way. A more likely implementation is FaceID works only when your face is in a certain range to be 3D mapped at the necessary precision. If a FaceID camera could 3D map you from, say, 10ft away, that would indeed be impressive.
No. They will always be on phone and tablet.
Yep. 5 people.
There're already a negative on Surface. There will always negative when you compromise.
Speak for yourself. I don’t want a touch screen on a laptop. Imagine constantly pushing your screen and rocking the whole unit, even with a light tap.
It would do no such thing. I don't fully understand the reasoning behind Apple allowing iOS apps on macOS (the experience is often quite terrible) but I can assure you that there is wisdom in keeping the two worlds separate. Microsoft tried to merge the two worlds with Windows 8, and even they had to admit that was a mistake. The keyboard and mouse world is not an easy world to translate into a touchscreen world and vice versa. A lot of things don't really make sense in one, that do make sense in the other. What it does do (and this is very typical of Microsoft) is add a tremendous amount of complexity, where there previously was simplicity. Keeping the worlds separate allows for the best experience on both, as Apple has shown us, and Microsoft has learned.
Bravo. I applaud Apple for innovating with the Touch Bar. It just didn't work out.
Then just don't touch it. By doing this literally your concern is no longer relevant and the people who do want it can touch their screen.
He was talking as if that was your only input of method. With my surface pro, if I never wanted to touch the screen there is no problem because i still have a keyboard and mouse/touchpad. All a touch screen laptop is made for convenience and just trust me, its very convenient when you actually use it for certain things... Scrubbing through a video or song, enlarging pictures on the screen real quick. No one that has a touchscreen laptop uses just the screen for input because THAT is absurd.
The touch bar was Apple's knee jerk reaction to the MS Surface line and Desktop OS tablets becoming popular and realizing people actually did want touchscreen, after Apple said that NOBODY wants a touchscreen computer and since they can't admit fault and say they were wrong and do touchscreen Mac, you got the awesome magical brilliant innovate my ass touchbar... Never would have happened other wise and even they now see how stupid an idea it was since it seems to be going away.
Imagine living in a world where a touchscreen on a laptop and trackpad can coexist peacefully.
Rather Apple not invest in dev time to make MacOS touch screen capable. Want a touch experience? Get an iPad with a glorified phone OS.