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Apple Executives Speak on the 'Low-Cost Phone', Android's Fragmentation Issues
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So it's perfectly fine for Android to be bashed for phones with different specs and legacy devices to not run the latest OS, but for Apple devices, it's perfectly reasonable to think so?
That chart that's been posted many times - how many of those devices running Gingerbread were sold in the past 2 years? Virtually none. But it's FRAGMENTATION! with Android, but my LESS THAN 2 year old iPod - it came out in 2011 with the 4s, my friend - it's outrageous for me to think it would run iOS7. Hypocrisy at its finest.
Great cover. Looks like a cool trio of happy, confident, people.
Another, and perhaps even bigger, fragmentation issue is the wealth of screen sizes, aspect ratios and resolutions on Android. This does give designers way more challenges when designing apps.
The comparatively few screen sizes of Apples phones and tablets have a very positive effect on creativity and ultimately on apps themselves. It is one of Apples strongest cards.
I for one, am hoping that when Apple releases a phone with a 4,5-4,7 inch display, it will have the exact same resolution and aspect ratio as the current 4 inch (yep, I know many people would hate this I think it would be the right move).
Another, and perhaps even bigger, fragmentation issue is the wealth of screen sizes, aspect ratios and resolutions on Android. This does give designers way more challenges when designing apps.
The comparatively few screen sizes of Apples phones and tablets have a very positive effect on creativity and ultimately on apps themselves. It is one of Apples strongest cards.
I for one, am hoping that when Apple releases a phone with a 4,5-4,7 inch display, it will have the exact same resolution and aspect ratio as the current 4 inch (yep, I know many people would hate this I think it would be the right move).
... But Apple just announced the "download last compatible version for iOS" in the AppStore feature.
Same thing for iOS.
That just shows how made up the claim people have 4 year old Android versions is. 4 year old os versions are 0.1% of devices.The truth of the situation isn't great. No need to make up lies about it.
Well said
Each company (Apple, Google, Microsoft) will naturally reinforce its strengths and boast why their business model / product approach is better. If Microsoft is able to successfully leverage Nokia's hardware expertise and develop a Windows phone that garners market share, it'll be interesting to see how Apple reacts. MS, in a way, is borrowing from Apple's playbook of being a verticalized provider of both the hardware and the software. Since Windows phones aren't as popular and there aren't as many models available, the fragmentation argument against MS/Windows phones may not be as strong.Can you please tell me what info you require? Which sales? Was it the Mac sales that I quoted? The ones that I quoted from MacRumors which they in turn quoted a few weeks back? Keep up! I'm no troll but I do ask questions you may feel uneasy about as you are a fanboy right?
https://www.macrumors.com/2013/08/1...ver-year-drop-expected-for-september-quarter/
You have any sort of stats to back that up? People that like gadgets update their phone a lot. But how many people that is....who knows. I know plenty of people that buy a phone and use it until it breaks.
Apple has fragmentation in it's iPhone range too. It's just not as proliferate compared to Google. Look at the iPhone 3 for example. It's stuck on an old iOS version, and some major apps are not available for it. Facebook comes to mind quickly.
Apple has now introduced that legacy app ability, where your phone can keep a older version of the app if the latest version refuses to run on your iPhone. It wouldn't be needed if there wasn't any fragmentation.
You could also argue the fact that because Apple doesn't really offer a cheaper phone the fragmentation is at a Snail's pace.
Apple has now introduced that legacy app ability, where your phone can keep a older version of the app if the latest version refuses to run on your iPhone. It wouldn't be needed if there wasn't any fragmentation.
You could also argue the fact that because Apple doesn't really offer a cheaper phone the fragmentation is at a Snail's pace.
Their smugness does worry me if all that is really their opinions, I hope the stock price and low sales teach them a lesson not to fob people off with minimal design updates.
I still believe the majority of people wanted a larger screen and a new package design not the same phone year after year, that said I applaud they way the repackage the same size case with new internals. But thats not really great design or great innovation, replacing that with gadgets and gimmicks like Siri and the fingerprint scanner is just another way of selling the same basic phone design. I expect great things for iPhone 6..
I still believe the majority of people wanted a larger screen and a new package design not the same phone year after year, that said I applaud they way the repackage the same size case with new internals. But thats not really great design or great innovation, replacing that with gadgets and gimmicks like Siri and the fingerprint scanner is just another way of selling the same basic phone design. I expect great things for iPhone 6..
The same people you speak of probably don't care what OS they are running.
Personally I buy a phone for what it does when I buy it. I don't buy it for what it might do in the future. Which is why I don't get the moaning that some do about not getting this feature or that one. Updates that fix problems I care about.
Sorry but this quote tied with your profile picture just made my morning.
When I had an original Droid, I couldn't download some apps because they were made for different processors or phones or whatever. Verizon wouldn't push the latest update to my phone. The volume buttons broke so I had to download an app to control the volume. Google's Music app updated itself and wouldn't play my m4a files anymore. A reboot would fix that problem. By the time my contract was up and I was able to upgrade, I purchased an iPhone 4.
I honestly have no reason to upgrade except to get better internal hardware. My iPhone 4 is running iOS 7 wonderfully. It stutters a couple of times but it did that with iOS 6 too.
My personal preference has been for iOS and Apple. Some of my friends disagree and I respect that but I believe Android fragmentation is real. A friend of mine is still running Gingerbread because the carrier won't let them update. Their OS is slow and unresponsive at times, constantly needing rebooting. Their hardware specs are equal to that of my iPhone.
The problem with that graph is that it paints a picture that devices being sold today as brand new are being sold with a version of Android that is pre-4.0 and while I am sure there is some pre-paid outlier out there, the overwhemling majority of phones sold in the past 2 years run a version of 4.x.
If everyone on this forum is bashing me for having the audacity that a device I bought as brand new, just released in 2011 for not running iOS7, why is it fair/reasonable to bash Android for having devices out there that run GB when they are just as old as my iPod that can't run iOS7?
It's a matter of degrees. A little bit of fragmentation is not the same as a lot of fragmentation. iOS 7 will probably be on more devices than Jelly Bean within a week. It will likely be on a higher percentage of active iPhones by the end of the day.Lol that's what droid clowns always say. Must be a fanboy. I do like apple. Whether it means I am a fan boy I don't think so. First of all that speculative. It's flat in July, however apple users know a upgrade is around the corner. Summer always sucks for them. Second of all if we used the same stupid speculation you do there would be a lot of spin and bs on this forum. Third, uneasy? Do you assume since I have a response to a uneducated and aggressive post I would be uneasy? I called you out for your sources and it hasn't been accurate. You took partial data and tried to make something of it. Read some more numb nuts you are far behind.
Siri performance is contingent upon an Audience noise cancellation co-processor and algorithm, which in turn allows Siri to be better able to discern speech in outdoor conditions with lots of ambient noise.
The software for Siri itself running was never the source of the issue.
Something similar will happen next year when the iWatch needs M7.
Either way it's a hardware concern, where the Galaxy Gear situation is 100% android fragmentation.
Your iPod model is more than two years old.
Apple devices get the latest os for at least three years. 25% of new android devices can not use the latest os. The two things are not comparable at all.
It's not surprising at all. The problem with Android update is that user have to wait for manufactures to create an updated e.g. Samsung's ice cream sandwich OS, which takes another years or so. Most cheaper Android didn't even get any updates from their manufactures.
