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Homepod and Apple tv need an update. The apple vision Pro i have is up for sale as I never ise the thing and its clunky woth a selerwte battery pack. Learned my lesson on this product and it definitely needs to come down in price as it’s already underpowered not even 2 years in. Should have been the M3 at launch.

Ipad and macbook will be marginal upgrades and am happy to wait for M6 and oled touchscreen Mac’s and ioads with a big jump in performance. M4 is solid.
 
100%, most of what is posted is click bait and not accurate. We are due for an Apple TV upgrade though this year. Same with HomePods. The hardware is becoming stressed.
To be fair, the A17 Apple TV is not Clickbait or a rumor, it is literally within apple‘s own code.
Same with the HomePod mini based off of the S10.
Was literally discovered within the 26 betas.
 
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Ipad and macbook will be marginal upgrades and am happy to wait for M6 and oled touchscreen Mac’s and ioads with a big jump in performance. M4 is solid.
Perhaps it's a marginal upgrade for those who have an iPad Pro or MacBook Pro with M4-M3 but for those who still have M2-M1 it's a big leap in performance. You should never assume that everyone else always has the latest model.
 
To be fair, the A17 Apple TV is not Clickbait or a rumor, it is literally within apple‘s own code.
Same with the HomePod mini based off of the S10.
Was literally discovered within the 26 betas.
Look at the article I quoted my comment off of and a year ago they said a new Apple TV was coming and it never did. That was what was clickbait. There was no code showing it was coming then either.

This year, yes, the code exists and indicates it. So my point stands, last years was clickbait because there was no concrete evidence of it but merely speculation.
 
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Apple plans to announce new products "this week," according to Bloomberg's Mark Gurman.


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Apple's "Mac Your Calendars" teaser last October

In his Power On newsletter today, Gurman said the products set to be updated this week include the iPad Pro, Vision Pro, and "likely" the base 14-inch MacBook Pro, with all three likely to receive a spec bump with Apple's next-generation M5 chip.

Gurman does not expect Apple to hold an event to announce these products. Instead, there will likely be a series of press releases on the Apple Newsroom website, and there might also be shorter promotional videos for each product on YouTube.

Monday is the Columbus Day holiday in the United States, and Thanksgiving in Canada, so we shall see if Apple holds its announcements until Tuesday or later.

iPad Pro

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The next iPad Pro was already leaked in a pair of unboxing videos out of Russia. The videos confirmed that the device will be equipped with the M5 chip, and an increased minimum of 12GB of RAM, but no major design changes were visible.

There is one minor design change: "iPad Pro" is no longer inscribed on the back of the device.

It was previously rumored that the next iPad Pro models would be equipped with two front cameras, instead of one, making it easy to have video calls in both portrait and landscape orientations. However, there was no evidence of a second front camera in the unboxing videos out of Russia, so it is unclear if this rumor will pan out.

Geekbench 6 results shown in one of the unboxing videos revealed the M5 chip will stick with a 9-core CPU, with three performance cores and six efficiency cores. The results showed the M5 chip will offer up to 12% faster multi-core CPU performance, and up to 36% faster GPU performance, compared to the M4 chip in the current iPad Pro.

Vision Pro

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An updated version of the Vision Pro is also expected to be equipped with an M5 chip, although an earlier rumor said the device would receive an M4 chip.

There could also be an R2 chip for improved input processing, but the report said that chip would be manufactured with TSMC's latest 2nm process, and Apple's first chips using that process are not expected to debut until the second half of next year.

Apple is expected to start including a more comfortable "Dual Knit Band" head strap in the box with the updated Vision Pro, and the headset could get a Space Black color option. The device will continue to support Wi-Fi 6, rather than Wi-Fi 6E or Wi-Fi 7, according to FCC documents that were erroneously made available for public viewing.

It is unclear if these changes will be enough for Apple to consider the updated Vision Pro to be a second-generation model. Recent reports have indicated that Apple has suspended development of a truly next-generation Vision Pro, along with a lightweight and lower-cost "Vision Air" model, as it focuses its efforts on smart glasses.

14-inch MacBook Pro

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A base 14-inch MacBook Pro with an M5 chip is "ready for launch," according to Gurman.

A few days ago, AppleInsider reported that a base MacBook Pro with an M5 chip would be released before higher-end models with M5 Pro and M5 Max chips, which are expected to follow in early 2026. Beyond the M5 chip, no significant changes are expected.

Bigger changes to the MacBook Pro are expected with the two-generations-away models, with rumored upgrades including an OLED display, touchscreen capabilities, a thinner design, built-in cellular connectivity, and M6 chips manufactured with TSMC's latest 2nm process, for even greater year-over-year performance gains.

Other Products

New models of the Apple TV, HomePod mini, and AirTag are "still very much on the road map," according to Gurman, but he did not provide any update on timing.

He also expects new entry-level iPad, iPad Air, Studio Display, and MacBook Air models, along with an iPhone 17e, to launch early next year.



Article Link: Apple Expected to Announce These Two to Three Products 'This Week'
I'll be skipping the M5 iPad Pro as I already have the M4 13-inch with 2TB, which I'm quite satisfied with. I'd love to get the new Vision Pro but alas, I live in a country where Apple hasn't officially released it, which is quite unfortunate. As for the M5 MacBook Pro, I'll check to see comparisons stats with my M1 Pro, which is still surprisingly good. As a way to soften the blow, I already have a $1200 credit at my local Apple distributor (sold my iPhone 16 Plus and 16 Pro Max recently) which I can potentially use to get the MacBook Pro M5. Let's see the reviews first..
 
"Computer strapped to your face" is never going to be mainstream in the way things like desktop computers/iPods and iPhones were/are.
I think it’s because it requires the wearer to surrender a large part of their identity which is their face. I think Apple understood that and it’s why they spent money on an outward facing screen to reveal a bit of the hidden person underneath.

And it’s probably why glasses (although I’m not a fan of the camera-equipped ones) will be the preferred device in the vision-wearable category: Glasses don’t blot out the wearer’s identity.
 
I think it’s because it requires the wearer to surrender a large part of their identity which is their face. I think Apple understood that and it’s why they spent money on an outward facing screen to reveal a bit of the hidden person underneath.

And it’s probably why glasses (although I’m not a fan of the camera-equipped ones) will be the preferred device in the vision-wearable category: Glasses don’t blot out the wearer’s identity.

Correct!

But I'd also argue that the future is still not mainstream for anything on your face, no matter how diminutive it becomes.
 
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Correct!

But I'd also argue that the future is still not mainstream for anything on your face, no matter how diminutive it becomes.
Agreed, because even with glasses the wearer can appear to be looking straight at you (implying they’re giving you their full attention - welcome or unwelcome depending on your relationship) when in reality the wearer is a million miles away reading their screen.

That social disconnect is going to be hard to fix. With the iPods, apple went with screamingly obvious white earbuds and wires to inform outsiders that the wearer’s ears were “elsewhere”. How do you do that with glasses?
 
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Perhaps it's a marginal upgrade for those who have an iPad Pro or MacBook Pro with M4-M3 but for those who still have M2-M1 it's a big leap in performance. You should never assume that everyone else always has the latest model.

For day-to-day? Naa...

I went from an M1 Air to a M4 MBP and I can tell ZERO difference in my regular usage. None whatsoever.
 
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Oh yeah, it’s infuriating how these ungrateful peasants sorry…consumers just don’t understand Apple’s genius. Like, imagine thinking $3,499 isn’t a reasonable price for the privilege of pretending to type in midair. People out here complaining they can’t afford groceries, when really, they should be selling their cars, kidneys, and maybe one child to fund the future of spatial computing.


Yeah Tim Cook is a moron for pricing it that high. Facebook's MetaQuest has been a success because it is at a decent price and it has games and movies to consume. Apple Vision Pro has nothing and costs 7x the price.
 
That social disconnect is going to be hard to fix. With the iPods, apple went with screamingly obvious white earbuds and wires to inform outsiders that the wearer’s ears were “elsewhere”. How do you do that with glasses?

No clue ... this problem has pivoted and become ever worse in that folks are now (rudely, I would argue) leaving the buds in all the time at places like a checkout counter.

Folks have no way to know if you're tuned in or out .... maybe you're in transparency mode?

I find it rude. It take my AirPods out when I'm speaking to a real person in front of me.
 
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Except the Newton didn't cost $3500 minimum.
Very true. It was still expensive in its day, though. I bought the original Newton MessagePad on release in the UK and (from memory) I paid £499 for it. Then, three years later, I bought the MessagePad 2000 which set me back a whopping £800! (I didn't tell the missus how much that cost lol). In today's money (adjusting for inflation, etc.) that would probably be around £1800 / $2300. So... not quite as expensive, but not a million miles away!
 
I just want them to finally release the most Awe Dropping™ courageously groundbreaking device in the history of Apple Computer™: the magical Vision Pro Max

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Control it with your new iPhone 18 Pro Max!

Forum member Angelica reports:

"it actually fits in my pocket fine ... I hardly notice it's there and I could never go back to something smaller"

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I've been waiting since 2015 to upgrade my Apple TV, I can wait a few more months. ;)
I feel like Apple missed the boat on AppleTV. Back when TVs were not so "smart", it brought something, but the built-in capabilities of newer TVs makes AppleTV redundant to me (unless you need it for Apple services like Arcade).
 
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