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Even though we're on M5 now, I see no reason to upgrade from my M1 Max MBP. A new design or new screen technology would make me want the new model, but no physical changes other than a chip swap means my 4-year-old laptop is still perfectly good.

If there's no event, then the updates are likely just chip swaps. And that's good, Apple should be updating the chips regularly (more than has been done for the AirPods Max), but if you already have an "M" device, there's probably not much reason to upgrade.
This. I find that the one thing I wish my laptop had is more RAM when doing anything graphically intensive, which is rare. The M1 processors are fine for most everyday, general computing tasks.
 
I stopped upgrading my iPad since Apples stopped making a folio keyboard for it. I think Apple does not realize how popular this keyboard really is and how their iPad sales would increase if they brought the keyboard back for new models.
 
I think the iPad Pro M5 is a given. Will probably jump on one the first time Costco does a sale on it (so $150 off instead of their usual $50 off) IF it goes to 16GB in the base model.

Really want some new HomePod minis and the HomePod with a screen to replace my Echo's now though!
 
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It’s THREE GRAND!!!!!… Just how many people do you know who will spend 3 grand on a development product they may only use once?

And Apple's Pro Display XDR is FIVE GRAND!!!!! Both the XDR and AVP are not meant for the average Apple consumer. And that's OK. They're niche products.

Apple has sold around 400,000 AVPs. At $3,500 each that's $1.4 Billion. That's pretty decent revenue for a niche product.

"Just how many people do you know who will spend 3 grand on a development product they may only use once?"

Seriously? Simply use AVP for two weeks and return it for a full refund if you don't like it.
 
It is genuinely infuriating how consumers refuse to support Apple's vision. The Vision Pro could be the start of a new computing era.
If only it wasn't so heavy/uncomfortable and expensive at the same time, people would buy it.
Like, even if I had spare 3k, I wouldn't do it because of how uncomfortable they are. And I'm sure it's the case for many
 
And Apple's Pro Display XDR is FIVE GRAND!!!!! Both the XDR and AVP are not meant for the average Apple consumer. And that's OK. They're niche products.

Apple has sold around 400,000 AVPs. At $3,500 each that's $1.4 Billion. That's pretty decent revenue for a niche product.

"Just how many people do you know who will spend 3 grand on a development product they may only use once?"

Seriously? Simply use AVP for two weeks and return it for a full refund if you don't like it.

Precisely, which is why the OP I replied to was so ridiculous complaining the AVP wasn’t a mass selling device..
 
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4000€ in in Europe or 4647$.
Wow! just checked and it is £3500 in the UK. When you think of what spec Mac computer you can get for that, even MacBook Pro spec, that is a high price. But it is for enthusiasts and VERY early adopters really, or people / businesses who like to experiment too.
 
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It is genuinely infuriating how consumers refuse to support Apple's vision. The Vision Pro could be the start of a new computing era.
Maybe. Whatever. It is not incumbent on consumers to support Apple's (or any other company's) 'vision'. Consumers will engage with (or support as you call it) products they think satisfies their need, desire and/or VFM index. It is up to companies to address that in their product development strategy and marketing, not the other way round.
 
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Very true. It was still expensive in its day, though. I bought the original Newton MessagePad on release in the UK and (from memory) I paid £499 for it. Then, three years later, I bought the MessagePad 2000 which set me back a whopping £800! (I didn't tell the missus how much that cost lol). In today's money (adjusting for inflation, etc.) that would probably be around £1800 / $2300. So... not quite as expensive, but not a million miles away!
Our stories are similar. Only differences:
  1. I bought my Original MP in Dixon's when they were on clearance for around £250 IIRC. Intriguing device, but a bit limited.
  2. I graduated to the 120 and then 130 (backlight! woo hooo!)
  3. I broke my 130 and had to buy another 130 full price because I needed it for work. That's when the missus found out the cost. I DID NOT HEAR THE END OF THAT! :)
  4. MP 2000 is a brilliant device (if a bit bulky). Still have mine and it works just fine.
 
Our stories are similar. Only differences:
  1. I bought my Original MP in Dixon's when they were on clearance for around £250 IIRC. Intriguing device, but a bit limited.
  2. I graduated to the 120 and then 130 (backlight! woo hooo!)
  3. I broke my 130 and had to buy another 130 full price because I needed it for work. That's when the missus found out the cost. I DID NOT HEAR THE END OF THAT! :)
  4. MP 2000 is a brilliant device (if a bit bulky). Still have mine and it works just fine.
I feel sorry for you when she found out the price! lol. I still have most of the range - OMP, MP120, MP2000, and MP2100. Never got an eMate though...

Regarding Apple TV - I’m intrigued to see how Apple Intelligence will be incorporated. I’ve had an ATV 4K for the last three years or so and it does the job perfectly for me, so really interested to see what capabilities a more powerful processor would bring!
 
That is your opinion, not a fact.

That's true, but I base it two friends close to me who both bought an AVP, and ended up selling them because they couldn't find any use for it, and they started gathering dust. The general web sentiment, along with sales, have shown the same..

...so I'm inclined to believe them.
 


Apple plans to announce new products "this week," according to Bloomberg's Mark Gurman.


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Apple's "Mac Your Calendars" teaser last October

In his Power On newsletter today, Gurman said the products set to be updated this week include the iPad Pro, Vision Pro, and "likely" the base 14-inch MacBook Pro, with all three likely to receive a spec bump with Apple's next-generation M5 chip.

Gurman does not expect Apple to hold an event to announce these products. Instead, there will likely be a series of press releases on the Apple Newsroom website, and there might also be shorter promotional videos for each product on YouTube.

Monday is the Columbus Day holiday in the United States, and Thanksgiving in Canada, so we shall see if Apple holds its announcements until Tuesday or later.

iPad Pro

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The next iPad Pro was already leaked in a pair of unboxing videos out of Russia. The videos confirmed that the device will be equipped with the M5 chip, and an increased minimum of 12GB of RAM, but no major design changes were visible.

There is one minor design change: "iPad Pro" is no longer inscribed on the back of the device.

It was previously rumored that the next iPad Pro models would be equipped with two front cameras, instead of one, making it easy to have video calls in both portrait and landscape orientations. However, there was no evidence of a second front camera in the unboxing videos out of Russia, so it is unclear if this rumor will pan out.

Geekbench 6 results shown in one of the unboxing videos revealed the M5 chip will stick with a 9-core CPU, with three performance cores and six efficiency cores. The results showed the M5 chip will offer up to 12% faster multi-core CPU performance, and up to 36% faster GPU performance, compared to the M4 chip in the current iPad Pro.

Vision Pro

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An updated version of the Vision Pro is also expected to be equipped with an M5 chip, although an earlier rumor said the device would receive an M4 chip.

There could also be an R2 chip for improved input processing, but the report said that chip would be manufactured with TSMC's latest 2nm process, and Apple's first chips using that process are not expected to debut until the second half of next year.

Apple is expected to start including a more comfortable "Dual Knit Band" head strap in the box with the updated Vision Pro, and the headset could get a Space Black color option. The device will continue to support Wi-Fi 6, rather than Wi-Fi 6E or Wi-Fi 7, according to FCC documents that were erroneously made available for public viewing.

It is unclear if these changes will be enough for Apple to consider the updated Vision Pro to be a second-generation model. Recent reports have indicated that Apple has suspended development of a truly next-generation Vision Pro, along with a lightweight and lower-cost "Vision Air" model, as it focuses its efforts on smart glasses.

14-inch MacBook Pro

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A base 14-inch MacBook Pro with an M5 chip is "ready for launch," according to Gurman.

A few days ago, AppleInsider reported that a base MacBook Pro with an M5 chip would be released before higher-end models with M5 Pro and M5 Max chips, which are expected to follow in early 2026. Beyond the M5 chip, no significant changes are expected.

Bigger changes to the MacBook Pro are expected with the two-generations-away models, with rumored upgrades including an OLED display, touchscreen capabilities, a thinner design, built-in cellular connectivity, and M6 chips manufactured with TSMC's latest 2nm process, for even greater year-over-year performance gains.

Other Products

New models of the Apple TV, HomePod mini, and AirTag are "still very much on the road map," according to Gurman, but he did not provide any update on timing.

He also expects new entry-level iPad, iPad Air, Studio Display, and MacBook Air models, along with an iPhone 17e, to launch early next year.



Article Link: Apple Expected to Announce These Two to Three Products 'This Week'
32” iMac? LG (Apple’s imac screen supplier) just dropped there 32” 6k display
 
I am very interested in the M5 MacBook Pro because I want to know if it will include Wi-Fi 7. Nothing is final until it's been announced by Apple.
 
It is genuinely infuriating how consumers refuse to support Apple's vision. The Vision Pro could be the start of a new computing era.
Is not like they (Refuse). There's something called financial limitations. I support Apple the best I can by having the latest of its products. However, 3k$ for a headset is just a big no. The competition does it for less for less quality, it's a tradeoff I'd consider if Apple decides to release a more affordable version of the Vision Pro
 
iPad pro interests me. I am typing on an OG 11.5 that is likely on the last iPad OS version, and has some functionality stripped as compared to modern devices.

It isn’t going anywhere, as I have use for it, but when compared to my work M4 iPad Pro, it lacks some features I really want on my personal device as a photo / video guy.

I stopped upgrading my iPad since Apples stopped making a folio keyboard for it. I think Apple does not realize how popular this keyboard really is and how their iPad sales would increase if they brought the keyboard back for new models.
I agree that I miss this item / feature, but feel there are great 3rd party options that support this overall need, and honestly have better build than some of the previous apple versions.
 
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