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Apple Expected to Lead 5G Smartphone Shipments in 2020
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I believe Apple might well implement 5G next September as rumors suggests. Despite fact that cellular carriers have not agreed on standardized frequencies.
The 5G hype is gigantic. The actual technical understanding is zero for most. Including tech media.
Cost to add a few new 5G frequencies to all 3Q 2020 iPhones is negligible. Will not affect iPhone price. Marketing potential for Apple is significant.
Many iPhone 12 owners will be bragging about the big speed increase they are experiencing. Despite the fact that vast majority of them will be on same 4G LTE they had before, and most likely will stay there till they trade the new phone in.
The 5G hype is gigantic. The actual technical understanding is zero for most. Including tech media.
Cost to add a few new 5G frequencies to all 3Q 2020 iPhones is negligible. Will not affect iPhone price. Marketing potential for Apple is significant.
Many iPhone 12 owners will be bragging about the big speed increase they are experiencing. Despite the fact that vast majority of them will be on same 4G LTE they had before, and most likely will stay there till they trade the new phone in.
If the graph is based on calendar quarters, what's showing as Q2 2020 is Apple's fiscal Q3.
This has nothing to do with when the phones are built. These guys claim Apple will be actually shipping iPhones, as in sending them to your door, or to Apple stores around the world, in Q2.
People are stressing over 5G coverage. What they should be thinking about is getting back to quality Qualcomm modems that don't have to be crippled to compete with crappy Intel modems. The 5G modems will be backward compatible, so if 5G is available great. If 4G is all that's available, they will still work and we'll get better reception inside buildings and in low-powered areas.
Well they’re definitely getting my money. I would’ve loved to have bought an 11 Pro this year but passed just because of 5G. Even though it might not be great at launch, since I usually use phones for 3 years it will come in handy.
Q2 line is the end of Q2 which is 0%. Q3 red line you drew is where Q3 ends (not start). Going from Q2 0% to Q3 X% makes sense, though visually confusing.
I've seen dozens of these 5G review videos. It should be called "Sidewalk 5G"
It's fast... but only if you're standing outside on the sidewalk.
4G nodes are high up on a tower and they reach a few square miles... blanketing a huge area.
But these 5G nodes are only good for a couple hundred feet. And you need clear direct line-of-sight, too. That means no trees, no rain, and it doesn't work indoors.
Who thought this was a good idea? As I said in an earlier comment... I don't understand how Verizon plans to scale this outside the city.
Are they really gonna put a 5G node on every utility pole or every light pole all across the country to match the footprint of 4G currently? That sounds ridiculous.
And again... it only works outdoors. If trees can block a 5G signal... your house and office will block it too.
Meanwhile I can get 4G just about anywhere. Outdoors and indoors.
And before anyone says "4G took a while to expand"... remember that we're dealing with an entirely different scenario here.
We already had a bunch of 3G towers that were eventually upgraded with 4G hardware. The result... we had 4G signal covering those same large areas. Yes it took a while... but it was a fairly straightforward process.
In my area our cell towers are a couple miles apart.
So you'd basically need ten 5G nodes per mile in order to cover the same area that a single 4G tower can cover. And you'd need them on every road since each node doesn't reach very far.
And it still doesn't work indoors! So even if there was a 5G node on a pole near my house... I'd only get 5G if I go outside.
So yeah... who's still excited for 5G ?
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This is simply because when Apple put 5G in, all the new iPhone models will have 5G. There will be no 4G version like what others are doing. So when people buy the new iPhone, it will have 5G regardless. Obviously one can project the share of 5G iPhones simply based on the projection of the new iPhone sales.
Big duh.
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Big duh.
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Because all carriers are simply overcrowding their towers. Heck, 4G in where I am is barely 2mbps, and this is with the number one carrier in the country. Carriers can claim 9G for all they want, in the end it will be just as barely usable as today since they will try to gain as many users per tower to maximize their ROI, and in essence overcrowding their own network.
Um, but it would be pretty darn stupid to measure "shipments" of phones not even released yet. Perhaps a good way to get market share: Hey, we have already manufactured 200 million phones coming out next year. Unfortunately, they were all unusable so we just scrapped them all, but hey, marketshare!
Good Question. But the likelihood of it happening is close to zero. Intel is severely lacking in capacity at the moment, and it is clear they are winding down their Custom Foundry Division post 10nm.
Intel might likely continue to Fab the current Modem to Apple as supply contract, but I think it is actually in Apple's best interest to move to Qualcomm ASAP.
It's what happens when you take a data table with "...Q2: 0%, Q3: 40%...", run it through a line chart generator instead of a block diagram and publish it without reviewing your work. ;-)
Having the Device capabilities to use 5G is great but at the same time the practicality of 5G as well. It needs to go hand in hand . 5G Infra will not be covering most of the places aka areas at least for years to come .
As far as Europe is concerned, Samsung is dominating, and not with "sub $100" we keep hearing about. . Biggest selling phone is the A50 which retails at £310. The S10 and s10+ outsell all other flagship phones.
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A few notes here: China is NOT a leader when it comes to 5G. Huawei is a leading manufacturer of 5G phones and equipment - but the network infrastructure isn‘t there.
Korea is currently the leader in 5G, followed by the US and Europe, which are both more or less evened out. Samsung is dominating both of these markets in the 5G sector. Huawei isn‘t present in the US (unless we‘re talking about network infrastructure and not phones) and it‘s on the decline in Europe (and never actually led anything in 5G in Europe either).
So I‘m not quite sure where this guy has his data from.
There are some other issues with 5G that also make it very hard to predict future developments. Both in Europe and in the US a lot of people have health concerns when it comes to 5G. In Switzerland (which leads the pack in terms of 5G deployment and customer availability, reaching close to 90% coverage by the end of the year), a recent opinion poll revealed that 52% of the population want 5G deployment stopped as there‘s no immediate use for the new technology to them and people are afraid of the technology. While this won‘t affect the rollout in the US as providers have free hand without the population having any say in these matters, Europe and even China might begin to halt 5G deployment until unanswered health questions have been addressed.
So overall, 5G is fighting an uphill battle pretty much everywhere. Making predictions here is close to impossible.
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I have a company-issued Note 10+ 5G and have excellent coverage here - and couldn‘t agree more. There‘s absolutely no discernible difference to the average consumer between LTE / 4G and 5G.
Korea is currently the leader in 5G, followed by the US and Europe, which are both more or less evened out. Samsung is dominating both of these markets in the 5G sector. Huawei isn‘t present in the US (unless we‘re talking about network infrastructure and not phones) and it‘s on the decline in Europe (and never actually led anything in 5G in Europe either).
So I‘m not quite sure where this guy has his data from.
There are some other issues with 5G that also make it very hard to predict future developments. Both in Europe and in the US a lot of people have health concerns when it comes to 5G. In Switzerland (which leads the pack in terms of 5G deployment and customer availability, reaching close to 90% coverage by the end of the year), a recent opinion poll revealed that 52% of the population want 5G deployment stopped as there‘s no immediate use for the new technology to them and people are afraid of the technology. While this won‘t affect the rollout in the US as providers have free hand without the population having any say in these matters, Europe and even China might begin to halt 5G deployment until unanswered health questions have been addressed.
So overall, 5G is fighting an uphill battle pretty much everywhere. Making predictions here is close to impossible.
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I have a company-issued Note 10+ 5G and have excellent coverage here - and couldn‘t agree more. There‘s absolutely no discernible difference to the average consumer between LTE / 4G and 5G.
That wasn't the statement I was replying to, feel free tho to enter the debate when you have anything relevant to contribute.
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Once again you are throwing in caveats that neither I or the original poster discussed. Please keep on topic!!!
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What the hell you banging on about ... did you really say " let's not lie and claim....." are you calling me a liar?
The original poster said samsung sell a fraction of the phones apple does, I said he was wrong, they sell more.!! The end, no one discussed ,price, model, colour, gender!! When you are ready to apologise, I'm waiting....
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If 5G can't even fill a basketball arena to all seats with no doubt multiple access points dotted around the place, I have absolutely no immediate concerns to get onboard with 5G. Right now, and in the near future it is completely pointless for mobile devices.
Verizon advertises that they are the official 5G provider for the NFL and every stadium has 5G in the US.
But most of the people who have 5G capable phones have said they only get 4G in NFL stadiums.
5G is just not ready for mainstream yet.
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to back up what you said....
Gartner Says Global Smartphone Sales Continued to Decline in Second Quarter of 2019
Global #smartphone sales continued to decline in 2Q19. #Huawei and #Samsung exhibited the strongest annual sales increases at 16.5% and 3.8%, respectively. Read more:
www.gartner.com
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Depends on usage, not evrything depends on bandwith, in some cases rtt is more impotant, and there 5G ( at least on paper) has a rather big advantage over 4G
More flip-flops than a house of pancakes. Did the other manufacturers sell millions of phones at $699 or more? Apple captures the lions share of the profits for a reason.
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