Makes sense, at a time where 5G might actually be useful. Smart by Apple not to rush like the rest of the phone companies out there.
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Apple Expected to Lead 5G Smartphone Shipments in 2020
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Some people are natural born haters and they're willing to ignore that just to have a reason to bash Apple. Pitiful.
Even if the 5G rollout on T-Mobile is only window dressing by next fall I’m going to upgrade to whatever the flagship phone is. Will still keep my X until then.
Buying now unless you have a burning need doesn’t make sense if you plan to keep your phone for years.
Buying now unless you have a burning need doesn’t make sense if you plan to keep your phone for years.
I don’t even care for 5g I just want the latest Qualcomm in an iPhone tbh
Totally disagree. 5G has a very long way to go on infrastructure. A 4G phone will still be fine for the next 3-5 years.
correct. the only notable difference is the lack of native voice service on 5GNR. until VoNR (the native 5G voice service) is rolled out all the voice calls will be on VoLTE, so essentially the 5G phone shall have a 4G radio in operation to be able to receive phone calls. while regular phone calls seem to be a legacy thing, still the most revenue of the MNOs come from this segment.
the notable difference however will be the crappy 5G battery life as the price is paid in watts for the complex modulation.
spectral efficiency has its limits. on 3.5GHz, MNOs can have continuous 100MHz chunks where they can put out serious speed (still questionable who needs that much though).
on 600MHz TMUS has 35MHz of spectrum, so even the theoretical throughput will be quite lower.
the other thing with 600MHz is the propagation. it is so good, that a single cell can stretch to cover a larger area, so more UEs will connect to the same cell, i.e. the available airtime/bandwidth will be distributed among more devices. and due to its better propagation characteristics it needs more effective interference mitigation.
the point is, that the 5G hype train publicly never really discussed specifics, like how different a NR modulation will perform in different bands. and people are waiting for 5GNR performance that is only possible on 20GHz+ mmWave spectrum but coverage and propagation properties of the sub-800MHz bands. some disappointment is on the way.
as for the window story: seen internal tests with low-E windows, no 5G reception on band 42, while LTE on lower bands was performing fine.
Do you not read?
"We now believe that all three new 2H20 iPhone models will support 5G for the following reasons."
Kuo: All Three iPhones Coming in 2020 Will Support 5G
The three iPhones expected to launch in 2020 will feature support for 5G, according to a new note to investors shared today by Apple analyst Ming-Chi...www.macrumors.com
I'm sorry. Do you DENY that the sentence I quoted exists in the article?
I pointed out (in what I hoped was a somewhat amusing and friendly manner) that the sentence as present is silly and likely incorrect.
I don't see what value your complaint adds. The whole POINT of my post was that I'm well aware the sentence I HIGHLIGHTED is probably incorrect.
Exactly.
If Verizon can't cover a building with 5G (albeit a large building) how will they cover a suburb? Or 100,000 miles of highways?
A mile is 5,280 feet. But these Verizon 5G nodes have an effective range of only 300 feet. So it seems like a fantasy that Verizon's 5G will ever have the same coverage as their 4G.
I've written at length in another comment in this thread, so I'm not gonna go into it again here.
But my prediction is even in a few years... you could have a 5G phone in a supposed 5G area... but you'll likely be on 4G most of the time.
And that's honestly fine with me.
Then there is this. https://www.statista.com/statistics/258597/global-apple-and-samsung-smartphone-shipments-by-model/Verizon advertises that they are the official 5G provider for the NFL and every stadium has 5G in the US.
But most of the people who have 5G capable phones have said they only get 4G in NFL stadiums.
5G is just not ready for mainstream yet.
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to back up what you said....
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Gartner Says Global Smartphone Sales Continued to Decline in Second Quarter of 2019
Global #smartphone sales continued to decline in 2Q19. #Huawei and #Samsung exhibited the strongest annual sales increases at 16.5% and 3.8%, respectively. Read more:www.gartner.com
The Samsung A10, which costs $129 vs $699, according to statista shipped half as much.
Granted this is only for the first half of 2019 vs Aug for Gartner, but if you break it down by model, and there is plenty of documentation out there (but who knows how accurate), the cheaper Samsung phones are the best sellers.
One can play the how to cut the smartphone market game any which way.
not really the post I quoted was referring to sales. Not anything else. Don't try to bring anything else into the mix to deflect what was was said. Samsung sells more phones than anyone else. They are followed by Huawei and then Apple in third place. Then as the data reflects...Apple sales are declining. Those are facts.....
Gartner Says Global Smartphone Sales Continued to Decline in Second Quarter of 2019
Global #smartphone sales continued to decline in 2Q19. #Huawei and #Samsung exhibited the strongest annual sales increases at 16.5% and 3.8%, respectively. Read more:
www.gartner.com
This is a finer breakdown, don’t spin it any other way. It shows Samsung ships much more volume of less expensive phones globally than Apple, but the XR by model is the best selling global phone. That is a fact, according to statista.not really the post I quoted was referring to sales. Not anything else. Don't try to bring anything else into the mix to deflect what was was said. Samsung sells more phones than anyone else. They are followed by Huawei and then Apple in third place. Then as the data reflects...Apple sales are declining. Those are facts.....
Gartner Says Global Smartphone Sales Continued to Decline in Second Quarter of 2019
Global #smartphone sales continued to decline in 2Q19. #Huawei and #Samsung exhibited the strongest annual sales increases at 16.5% and 3.8%, respectively. Read more:
That was not what was discussed and you know that.
So what if Samsung or anyone else sells more less expensive phones? That was not part of the discussion.
The topic that you jumped in was sales. The facts are here below. You can try to dilute the facts any which way you want. Or pick a model and say one iphone model sells better than one Samsung model.
But that doesn't change the facts.
A sale is a sale...no matter what the sale price...it still counts as a sale.
Gartner Says Global Smartphone Sales Continued to Decline in Second Quarter of 2019
Global #smartphone sales continued to decline in 2Q19. #Huawei and #Samsung exhibited the strongest annual sales increases at 16.5% and 3.8%, respectively. Read more:
www.gartner.com
It's not a matter of "so-what" if Samsung sells a boat-load of cheaper phones, it's very relevant to understanding the total picture that market share and units(sales) aren't the be-all and end-all of metrics.That was not what was discussed and you know that.
So what if Samsung or anyone else sells more less expensive phones? That was not part of the discussion.
The topic that you jumped in was sales. The facts are here below. You can try to dilute the facts any which way you want. Or pick a model and say one iphone model sells better than one Samsung model.
But that doesn't change the facts.
A sale is a sale...no matter what the sale price...it still counts as a sale.
Gartner Says Global Smartphone Sales Continued to Decline in Second Quarter of 2019
Global #smartphone sales continued to decline in 2Q19. #Huawei and #Samsung exhibited the strongest annual sales increases at 16.5% and 3.8%, respectively. Read more:
Knowing the XR is the best selling global phone, doesn't change that fact.
doesn't change the fact that Apple is third in global smartphones now does it?
That the cheaper iPhone is the best seller kinda contradicts your position on Samsung only selling cheaper phones now doesn't it
People may cry what 5G, why 5G where is 5G etc... but whether you like it or not 5G is already there. All future mobiles whether Android or iOS, will have 5G including iPhones! At that point people will definitely look down at 4G mobiles (especially expensive ones) or its resale value will be measured accordingly, hence those who are planning for upgrade next year make wise decision.... When 5G mobiles come you still can use 4G not vice versa..
That’s why I went with iPhone 11
That’s why I went with iPhone 11
Also a doesn’t change the fact the xr is the best selling model globally. Selling twice as many units for a phone that next in line costs nearly 6 times less.doesn't change the fact that Apple is third in global smartphones now does it?
That the cheaper iPhone is the best seller kinda contradicts your position on Samsung only selling cheaper phones now doesn't it
I don't know why you continue to try to deflect or change the subject.
The post that started this with you was about sales. Samsung sells more phones globally than anyone else.
As usual you want to change the narrative and focus away from anything that depicts Apple as not coming out on top.....
But here are the facts...I will keep posting them for you so there is no misunderstanding.....
Appreciate your reiteration. But to make sure there is no confusion, within the framework of Samsung selling more phones globally, they are inexpensive models as documented here:I don't know why you continue to try to deflect or change the subject.
The post that started this with you was about sales. Samsung sells more phones globally than anyone else.
As usual you want to change the narrative and focus away from anything that depicts Apple as not coming out on top.....
But here are the facts...I will keep posting them for you so there is no misunderstanding.....
Smartphone shipments by model worldwide 2018| Statista
The statistic shows the smartphone unit shipments worldwide of the top ten models in terms of units in the first half of 2019.
www.statista.com
again...stick to the subject...which was Samsung sells more phones than anyone globally.Appreciate your reiteration. But to make sure there is no confusion, within the framework of Samsung selling more phones globally, they are inexpensive models as documented here:
Smartphone shipments by model worldwide 2018| Statista
The statistic shows the smartphone unit shipments worldwide of the top ten models in terms of units in the first half of 2019.
Then the sales are sales.....not specific models....just sales.
Here are the facts again for you....