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The iPhone 6 was so successful because of pent up demand for a larger screen.
The iPhone 12 will be successful because of pent up demand for a notch less screen (or at least a much smaller one).
I don’t think people are necessarily super concerned with a notch, but the Overall redesign and implementation of 5G should be reasons to upgrade. The whole package is different enough to cause a super cycle because it’s less iterative.

iPhone X year (with notch) marked the year of the most iPhone revenue ever, $166B...even more than iPhone 6...mostly because it was a huge redesign.
 
Time for a redesign. iPhone X, XS and 11 are the exact same.

Same story as 6, 6S, 6SS (7), 6SSS (8). And frankly, the X design was not far off from the 6 model either, other than the screen, notch and steel frame. I don't expect anything new to come out of Cupertino though. Just more spec iterations on the same mould.
 
I hope that leaves enough space for a bigger battery! [Might not be significantly bigger, but I’ll take what I can get.]

Coupled with whatever efficiency enhancements that Apple is bound to make, the 2020 iPhone could see better battery life, if Apple does decide to use the extra space for a bigger battery.
 
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Wow they wont use the same design 3 years in a row again, innovation

So you think the iPhone should have a different design every single year? Since when do smart phones change design on an annual basis? They all really relatively look the same, look at the competition, they don’t drastically change either.

I think what you’re trying to do, is use some personal jab at Apple, but yet, it’s evident you don’t have an understanding that smart phones don’t change design frequently, it’s incremental in terms of what they introduce in hardware features/software.
 
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I think that will make a lot of people happy.

People that want "the big one" don't seem to care how big it is. The bigger, the better. Which makes sense. Others want it just big enough to be usable, but otherwise as small as it can be for portability and one-handed operation.

I think going from 5.8 to 5.4 and 6.5 to 6.7 will be well received by both camps.
 
I'm wondering if they plan to scrap the "pro" distinction altogether and just go with "iPhone 12" in three sizes. Same features across the board, just current "pro" prices for the 6.1" and 6.7" models.
 
Wow they wont use the same design 3 years in a row again, innovation
There is pretty much nothing worse than the people who think the design needs to change just for the sake of change.
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I'm wondering if they plan to scrap the "pro" distinction altogether and just go with "iPhone 12" in three sizes. Same features across the board, just current "pro" prices for the 6.1" and 6.7" models.
Definitely not.
 
I couldn’t care less about having Touch ID back, especially if it’s inferior to its current version because it’s under the screen. Give me back 3D Touch. I’ve had the 11 Pro for a week now, and this Haptic Touch is really killing me, especially with the keyboard.
 
Believe it or not some people don’t stare at their screens all day and want something more portable for basic uses.
I can’t understand why anyone would want a 6.7 inch monstrosity in their pocket.

Thanks for your reply.
 
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Time for a redesign. iPhone X, XS and 11 are the exact same.

Not an attack but a serious question -
What design changes would you like to see?
From my perspective, they have all been basically the same (rectangular body, varying degrees of curvature of the edges and corners, and - finally - shrinking bezels).
I am not a designer, so perhaps I don't have the vision. I just don't see a whole lot of options for changing the design in any substantial way without compromising function.
 
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We reached that with the iPhone 6 in 2014 at 6.9/7.1mm thinness. Since then they’ve only gotten thicker (and with the 11 Pro tremendous battery life as well).

They haven't steadily been increasing battery size proportionally. Thicker doesn't do any good if you're making the battery smaller.

They took a step back with the 6S, then again with the 8. And the 8 had essentially the same battery size as the 6. So maybe thicker, but not for battery size, not always anyhow.

Feels like they finally get it with the 11.

iPhone 6: 1810 mAh
iPhone 6s: 1715 mAh
iPhone 7: 1960 mAh
iPhone 8: 1821 mAh

iPhone Xr: 2942 mAh
iPhone 11:3110 mAh
 
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Believe it or not some people don’t stare at their screens all day and want something more portable for basic uses.
I can’t understand why anyone would want a 6.7 inch monstrosity in their pocket.
The rumors are pointing to the 5.4" iPhone having the Pro branding. Last time I checked, people purchasing the iPhone Pro models are not buying them for basic uses.
 
We already have great battery...its time for some thinner and lighter iphones
The pro max is over 200grams...so 0.2mm less is the best

BUT..if they go PROmotion, then, keep the thickness and add even more battery
 
LAME. There seriously reducing the size of the standard model? I want a big display in a small form factor. Doesn’t this also mean they’re going to change the aspect ratio too?

They should just reduce the bezels. The black frame bezel and the metal side chassis that curves around the edges. Because if you actually look at it, it’s wide AF.
 
They haven't steadily begin increasing battery size proportionally. Thicker doesn't do any good if you're making the battery smaller.

They took a step back with the 6S, then again with the 8. And the 8 had essentially the same battery size as the 6. So maybe thicker, but not for battery size, not always anyhow.

Feels like they finally get it with the 11.

iPhone 6: 1810 mAh
iPhone 6s: 1715 mAh
iPhone 7: 1960 mAh
iPhone 8: 1821 mAh

iPhone Xr: 2942 mAh
iPhone 11:3110 mAh

Agree. Thicker phone doesn’t mean better battery life.
 
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The rumors are pointing to the 5.4" iPhone having the Pro branding. Last time I checked, people purchasing the iPhone Pro models are not buying them for basic uses.

What professional uses are you using your phone for? And you think most people buying the 'Pro' models aren't using them to mostly use Safari, Snapchat, Facebook, Music, etc lol? I've got news for you..
 
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What's the biggest dislike of the faceID?

I like both FaceID and TouchID, each has its pros and cons. I believe some users dislike that its present notch implementation is a little too wide and there is certainly room for improvement. Others are questioning why Apple has not implemented the same any direction FaceID recognition that is available on iPad Pro 2018 and not yet on iPhone 2019. Angle can also be improved, some have reported that wearing certain eye wear also has some challenges. No system is perfect and both have room for improvements.
 
This sounds like a great phone, now if only they would make a non-Pro small flagship model. I'm just going to have to get an iPhone 8SE2 or whatever it ends up being called.
Agreed. This is a big hole in the lineup. I want the new design, but something smaller than the 6.1" screen in the iPhone 11 or XR. I shouldn't have to spend $1000 to upgrade to the Pro to get a screen size that I want, so I'll just keep what I have.
 
That makes sense.

"And a volume 1mm thicker by the entire width/height of the current battery" I wonder how much time in battery life that would translate to.

If no advancements in the silicone for an A14 chip, then I would say another 1 to 1.5 hrs given the present LTE. However with 5G and others technology inclusions its hard to say what Apple will provide, however the prior stated battery usage improvement is a very safe bet. Anything more is icing on the cake.
 
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