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No it’s not. It’s alluring to see someone using a notch phone.

I don't understanding, it is opinion and preference based. Some like phones with FaceID while others TouchID. I have no issue with both. I like a phone with as much viewable screen as possible if that includes have either or both technology is some new implementation then that is great. I am not singling you out, just saying that everyone has a preference and some like me don't mind either. Kinda pointless to have a back and forth of something so trivial.
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No it's not? 😱😱😱😱

Opinions and choices for all. I like both FaceID and TouchID. :)
 
Sorry but the sweet spot is the 11/XR at 6.1. The X/XS/11 Pro is ok at 5.8 and you’re going to shrink that to 5.4. How is that a good idea.
 
What's the biggest dislike of the faceID?

Too easy for a person to just grab your phone and unlock it by just pointing it at your face.

At least with touch ID they have to actually make physical contact with you to open your phone. A scuffle would ensue, and that makes getting your finger on the sensor a way higher and more intrusive threshold to cross with a person.

This excerpt from a Wired article:
“... the instance of unlocking a suspect's iPhone by pointing it at his face was entirely straightforward for police. "It’s not at all surprising to me that this happened. In fact, it seems as though Face ID opens up less invasive ways for police officers who have authority to access data on a phone," says Ahmed Ghappour, an associate law professor at Boston University who specializes in cybersecurity and criminal law. "There might be less intrusion and physical coercion with forcing a faceprint versus a fingerprint."
 
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I’m holding out for the 2020 model(currently have XS Max) and the smart battery case for it as well.
 
Too easy for a person to just grab your phone and unlock it by just pointing it at your face.

This excerpt from a Wired article:
“... the instance of unlocking a suspect's iPhone by pointing it at his face was entirely straightforward for police. "It’s not at all surprising to me that this happened. In fact, it seems as though Face ID opens up less invasive ways for police officers who have authority to access data on a phone," says Ahmed Ghappour, an associate law professor at Boston University who specializes in cybersecurity and criminal law. "There might be less intrusion and physical coercion with forcing a faceprint versus a fingerprint."

LOL. Yeah, happens to me all the time.

(BTW - if you are concerned that someone might grab your phone and point it at your face, squeeze the volume and power buttons for a couple seconds to disable FaceID. Though I am curious about what situations arise where someone grabs a phone from you and points it at your face and forces you to keep your eyes open, but that same person cannot grab a phone from you and force your thumb on it. Seems the ven diagram of “they can force me to keep my eyes open” and “they can force me to put my thumb on the phone” looks pretty much like a circle.)
 
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Does a thinner display mean thinner phone? Or does it mean more room for a larger battery?

We reached the breaking point (literally) of phone thinness.
Well considering iPhones have only gotten thicker since 2014...
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I think we need to stop trying to make everything thinner & lighter. Focus on better and longer battery life, stronger glass, and durability.
iPhones have continually grown in thickness since 2014. The glass is continually made stronger, and the new iPhones have the longest battery life of any phone. You kinda don't know what you're talking about.
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5.4” is too small. 6.7” is too big. 6.1” will have compromises. Where do I go?!
Rumor is the 6.1 is the new iPhone standard size and the 5.4 will be the one with compromised features.
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There haven't been any bending issues since the iPhone 6 lineup, which, at 6.9mm / 7.1mm, are the thinnest phones they have produced. They've been going in the opposite direction every year since.

Not sure why people bring this up anymore other than for dramatization.
Because they don't know what they're talking about and are repeating BS that is 5 years old.
 
Thank God they're making smaller phones. Held onto my SE for as long as I could until it died, now I'm holding onto my 8 for as long as I possibly can. So sick of the phablet trend. If I can't use it with one hand, it's too big.
 
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I hate to say it but I'm dreading the 2020 iPhones.

I've upgraded yearly (I know it doesn't make sense, but I like to) and currently use the iPhone 11 Pro. That's a 5.8 inch screen. I can *NOT* use the Max with its 6.5 inch screen, its simply to large for how I use my phone one handed in many situations. I think the 5.8 inch size is perfect although I think I could still manage with a 6.1 inch screen like on my kid's XR.

So.... the 2020 Pro iPhones will come in a 5.4 inch (0.5 smaller which is actually a LOT smaller!) and a 6.8 inch version (0.3 more than the already to large 6.5 inch screen on the current MAX)! To me this harms BOTH Pro phones. You make the smaller one too small, and the large one already pushing boundaries for even those who like them even larger. I suppose bezels could *maybe* get a hair smaller to help but they are pretty darn thin already on the 11.

I don't understand what Apple is doing here? I don't want to get the low-end mid-tier "12" with the 6.1 inch screen, I want to get a Pro and I'm willing to spend... but it seems they are trying to make both Pro models less desirable?
Kuo released a rumor a while ago that the 5.4 and 6.1 phones swap specs.
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I understand people that want smaller phones, but you really need a PRO iPhone, but smaller? What's the point? I believe that anything below 5.8" is hard to use for web browsing, compose a good photo, watch videos, messaging with several people...if you want a "feature" phone, (like the SE2 would be) it makes sense for me. An iOS running phone for calls and few things more, not for consuming content or any "PRO" usage...
The 5.4 size will not be a pro phone.
 
Kuo released a rumor a while ago that the 5.4 and 6.1 phones swap specs.
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The 5.4 size will not be a pro phone.
"Kuo released a rumor a while ago that the 5.4 and 6.1 phones swap specs. "

Do you have a link to that? The way I understand is, is that the 5.4" will be new standard size for the Pro range and the 6.1" OLED will replace the iPhone 11 6.1"
 
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Battery life is already good, make it thinner and lighter. Current phones are chunky as hell.
...said nobody outside of Apple & the fashionistas who don't care what the phone actually does, nor how long it'll work between charges.
 
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...said nobody outside of Apple & the fashionistas who don't care what the phone actually does, nor how long it'll work between charges.
Not sure why you suggest Apple would say that, given that they keep making the phone thicker to add battery life.
 
Does a thinner display mean thinner phone? Or does it mean more room for a larger battery?

We reached the breaking point (literally) of phone thinness.
Came here to say almost exactly this. I'm all for a thinner display but only if Apple utilizes the extra space for greater battery capacity and overall strength, which I honestly think they will because they've clearly started listening to us (finally) when we say not to prioritize thinness.
 
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Thinner display or thinner bezel? Getting rid of the fugly notch should be the 1st priority though.
 
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Didn't read the entire thread, but to all the people bitching about battery life vs thinness, have you seen anything from marketing to tear downs on the iPhone 11/11 Pro/11 Max?

The iPhone 6 was the thinnest and every subsequent phone has been thicker with slightly larger batteries, but the 11, especially the OLED models, has had a massive battery upgrade compared to previous iPhones. Y'all are stuck in 2014.

Edit: The battery upgrades haven't been linear. iPhone 6s, 8, and XS had slightly smaller batteries than their immediate predecessors, but the overall trend has been bigger batteries over time.
 
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Time for a redesign. iPhone X, XS and 11 are the exact same.

If you go by outward appearances, yes. Internally they are all much different.
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I want an iPhone Shuffle as an alternative to the Apple Watch. You pin it to your shirt and you tap it to make phone calls, text, make appointments, and other Siri stuff. It will have a chirp sound and you can also play Apple Music if you want or use your Airpods. They can make it shaped like an Apple and you would use it like Star Trek the Next Generation comm badge.

And I want an iShoe. So I can pick up my shoe and make phone calls like Maxwell Smart.
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If there's anything Apple should take away from its recent lessons is that thinness for the sake of thinness isn't always a good thing, especially if other features suffer for it.

I believe they have learned. Take the new 16" MBP for example. It is demonstrably thicker than previous-gen MBP's. Thus we have the return of the scissor keyboard mechanism and a 100W/hr battery.
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why was it iphone 8 and not 7s? the only difference was a glass back. where was iphone 9?.. they jump around and screw up their own naming convention constantly.

There WAS an iPhone 9. (Kinda) It was an iPhone X - iPhone 1 . :)))
 
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