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Virtually no one outside of Apple wants thinner phone. BATTERY LIFE is our main concern.
I can agree but on the other hand I don’t want a phone that’s thick as iPhone 4. Current iPhones are heavy big bricks. Apple should bring some innovation to this aspect. I miss the Apple who once said "there’s more of it and less of it" and "everyone can make a bigger phone, that’s not the challenge".
 
thinner display? What the hell does that even mean?? Look apple just get rid of that ugly notch
 
I hate to say it but I'm dreading the 2020 iPhones.

I've upgraded yearly (I know it doesn't make sense, but I like to) and currently use the iPhone 11 Pro. That's a 5.8 inch screen. I can *NOT* use the Max with its 6.5 inch screen, its simply to large for how I use my phone one handed in many situations. I think the 5.8 inch size is perfect although I think I could still manage with a 6.1 inch screen like on my kid's XR.

So.... the 2020 Pro iPhones will come in a 5.4 inch (0.5 smaller which is actually a LOT smaller!) and a 6.8 inch version (0.3 more than the already to large 6.5 inch screen on the current MAX)! To me this harms BOTH Pro phones. You make the smaller one too small, and the large one already pushing boundaries for even those who like them even larger. I suppose bezels could *maybe* get a hair smaller to help but they are pretty darn thin already on the 11.

I don't understand what Apple is doing here? I don't want to get the low-end mid-tier "12" with the 6.1 inch screen, I want to get a Pro and I'm willing to spend... but it seems they are trying to make both Pro models less desirable?

I believe the physical footprint is going to stay the same. Just the screen sizes will de/increase.
 
I have no problem with the notch. Better than a home button.

No one outside this forum discusses the ‘notch’ the way other Members do on sites like this. It is and always will be a non-issue. As a matter fact, it’s a pretty cool feature that houses some of the most advanced biometric security in the smart phone industry.
 
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No one outside this forum discusses the ‘notch’ the way other Members do on sites like this. It is and always will be a non-issue. As a matter fact, it’s a pretty cool feature that houses some of the most advanced biometric security in the smart phone industry.
It's a non-issue for you.
 
Not everyone is affected by PWM.

Oh, pretty sure the Apple Watch disproves your ‘health’ comment. Not when they’re leading the way in health measures.
Pretty sure your comment about the Apple Watch is irrelevant to my comment about PWM usage. However, even if it was relevant, the ECG and health-related features are there to sell you on their product. Just because they help you keep track of your health does not mean that Apple cares about your health. They care about selling things.

PWM, in its most simple form, is a light flashing on and off very quickly, strobing your eyes and your brain. That isn't good for your health.
 
5.4? Still too big! 4.8 would have been great. I will just stick to my SE and reduce my carbon footprint.
 
I think we need to stop trying to make everything thinner & lighter. Focus on better and longer battery life, stronger glass, and durability.
Isn't that what Apple has done? iPhones have been getting thicker and heavier since the iPhone 6 and the thickness of the 11 Pros increased again to accommodate a larger battery.
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Wonder what will happen with the 6.1" iPhone. If it goes to 1080p OLED with slightly thinner bezels I think it would basically solve every single complaint anyone has with the XR & 11, but then what would differentiate the Pros other than an extra camera lens?
 
Finally an iPhone SE successor. The 5‘4 inch display (edge to edge) is nearly the size of the iPhone SE Body.
 
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Sorry but the sweet spot is the 11/XR at 6.1. The X/XS/11 Pro is ok at 5.8 and you’re going to shrink that to 5.4. How is that a good idea.
I agree - if they are going to OLED with the 6.1" as rumors suggest (and possibly somewhat thinner bezels) I wonder what would be left to sell people on the Pros (besides an extra camera lens... which doesn't seem like enough to justify an extra $300, assuming they keep a similar pricing strategy).
 
2020 iPhones will be the best selling iPhones since iPhone 6.
You might be right there (and I hope so because I'll be one of those people finally looking for a reasonably sized phone to upgrade to) but how does that work when Apple keep saying each phone is more successful than the last?
 
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You might be right there (and I hope so because I'll be one of those people finally looking for a reasonably sized phone to upgrade to) but how does that work when Apple keep saying each phone is more successful than the last?
The iPhone lineup reached its best ever sales (in terms of units sold) between Fall 2014 & Fall 2015 when the iPhone 6 & 6 Plus were introduced. That was peak iPhone sales. No other new iPhone lineup after that has reached the sales of the iPhone 6 / 6 Plus. And just so I'm clear, that's not saying they haven't been successful. Going by rumors, it looks like the iPhone 12 / 12 Pro has the best chance to beat iPhone 6 sales.
 
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No one outside this forum discusses the ‘notch’ the way other Members do on sites like this. It is and always will be a non-issue. As a matter fact, it’s a pretty cool feature that houses some of the most advanced biometric security in the smart phone industry.

It's a non-issue for you.

And me :). And everyone I know with an iPhone which is many. None of them care about the notch and they're a pretty diverse sample of iPhone users. The fact is that it's generally a non-issue for the vast majority. You can accept that fact or not. No one cares.
 
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Too easy for a person to just grab your phone and unlock it by just pointing it at your face.

At least with touch ID they have to actually make physical contact with you to open your phone. A scuffle would ensue, and that makes getting your finger on the sensor a way higher and more intrusive threshold to cross with a person.

This excerpt from a Wired article:
“... the instance of unlocking a suspect's iPhone by pointing it at his face was entirely straightforward for police. "It’s not at all surprising to me that this happened. In fact, it seems as though Face ID opens up less invasive ways for police officers who have authority to access data on a phone," says Ahmed Ghappour, an associate law professor at Boston University who specializes in cybersecurity and criminal law. "There might be less intrusion and physical coercion with forcing a faceprint versus a fingerprint."

I believe it is illegal for any law enforcement representative to access a persons communications device without a warrant, this also applied to TSA airport requests and checks. This is from what I have read in the last couple months, not sure when that article quoted from Wired was published and the information being referenced.

Plus I like both FaceID and TouchID, if someone is looking to access ones device for personal data there are easier less physically altercation methods to obtain that information. Most people give out personal information through social media, geo-location, hacking, etc types of methods. Someone approaching you in public or even in private is just overblown over dramatized. I have travelled to developing countries with both a TouchID and FaceID based phones and guess what no problems. There may be very rare cases, I am just saying for the majority of people who can afford these devices these claims are overblown.
 
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