Apple Expected to Release 5.4-Inch and 6.7-Inch iPhones With Thinner Displays in 2020

[code-m]

5.4" too small? lol its huge already

I wonder what people said about the original iPhone with a 3.5" screen then a 4". I used a 4" screen iPhone and it was fine I liked it for its portability and size as it fit in my pockets easier. 5.4" all screen with a notch would not be considered large insofar it is one hand usable.
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To get an idea how big 5.4" screen size is => If you took the diagonal measure of the ENTIRE iPhone SE, that's 5.39". That's not very big.

That would be perfect with a smaller notch to boot.

 

[pezj]

5,4 inch is too small 🤨

Works just fine for me 😏

 

[vipergts2207]

To get an idea how big 5.4" screen size is => If you took the diagonal measure of the ENTIRE iPhone SE, that's 5.39". That's not very big.

Another way to visualize it is the entire flat surface of the iPhone 8 display glass, which I think is pretty big. Clearly "big" is subjective.

 

[IG88]

The iPhone 6 was the thinnest and every subsequent phone has been thicker with slightly larger batteries

Nope. The 6s battery was significantly smaller than the 6, and the 8 battery was significantly smaller than the 7. The 8 battery was essentially the same capacity as the 6. They got progressively thicker, but battery capacity did not increase year over year during that span.

 

[Baymowe335]

You might be right there (and I hope so because I'll be one of those people finally looking for a reasonably sized phone to upgrade to) but how does that work when Apple keep saying each phone is more successful than the last?

They don’t say more successful...they say better. And they’re right.

 

[V_Man]

I've yet to see any rumors indicating iOS 14 is getting a redesign

I think he’s pointing out that iOS 14 will be like 12. The fixed it version.
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No-one: Give us a thinner iPhone.
Everyone: Please get rid of the annoying notch.

The notch is here for another 2-3. Technology isn’t there yet. At least not for Apple to implement it. When they do it will be done right

 

[Metrosey]

I believe it is illegal for any law enforcement representative to access a persons communications device without a warrant, this also applied to TSA airport requests and checks. This is from what I have read in the last couple months, not sure when that article quoted from Wired was published and the information being referenced.

Plus I like both FaceID and TouchID, if someone is looking to access ones device for personal data there are easier less physically altercation methods to obtain that information. Most people give out personal information through social media, geo-location, hacking, etc types of methods. Someone approaching you in public or even in private is just overblown over dramatized. I have travelled to developing countries with both a TouchID and FaceID based phones and guess what no problems. There may be very rare cases, I am just saying for the majority of people who can afford these devices these claims are overblown.

Actually, I agree with Professor Ahmed Ghappour. There are now a few countries that might require you to unlock your phone when entering the country, for example Australia.

Edit - Yes, based on the bill you could face jail anyway if you don't personally unlock it. However, at least you'd have more control over the decision. This is also important for those countries that would like to look into your phone due to 'suspicious behaviour' but is a legally grey area.

https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/20...ock-their-phones-could-face-10-years-in-jail/

With FaceID, if the customs agent has it, then it would be much easier to 'accidentally' point your phone at your face. This could also apply to a police investigation (covertly while interviewed) and a cyber-criminal (stealing your phone, covertly or overtly, pointing it at your face before running off). Yes, the former examples could be classed as illegal, however, if done covertly, the user wouldn't know about it. This is especially the case for those who are an IT-novice.

Fingerprints will nearly always require a more invasive and physical strategy, therefore, making it harder to unlock.

Disclaimer - This isn't a political post, nor is it intending to be one.

 

[mag33]

To get an idea how big 5.4" screen size is => If you took the diagonal measure of the ENTIRE iPhone SE, that's 5.39". That's not very big.

Its not big i agree but its also not "too small". It's about the perfect size. Anything larger is obscene.

I expect the 5.4" to be my next iphone after SE2 if it doesn't have a notch.

 

[19callum93]

Make it thicker, bigger battery and a flat flush camera. I beg you Apple.

 

[umbilical]

why the size change?! 5.4 is too small and 6.7 is too big.

I hope the thinner display will mean a thinner phone. The iPhone 11s are kinda chunky and the battery life is now good.

5.4 is too small? are you serious?

4.7 is too big!

 

[x-evil-x]

Time for a redesign. iPhone X, XS and 11 are the exact same.

Let’s be real here the shape of iPhones has been the same since 2014 with iPhone 6. I don’t consider the x lines to be redesigns just updates to the iPhone 6 phone.

 

[Pablo.A.Pucci]

We all know this just means a thinner phone and no chance of using that extra space for more battery.

iPhone Pro proves you are wrong

 

[cmaier]

Get rid of the stupid notch already...

Why? You want less screen space?

 

[sideshowuniqueuser]

2020 iPhones will be the best selling iPhones since iPhone 6.

I'm not so sure. Now here's a big question.... why is the iPhone 6 the best selling iPhone ever? The only thing that stands out to me is it's the last model to have a headphone jack, and thus people kept buying it year after year after year until it finally got removed off the shelves this year. So, if the 2020 model comes with a headphone jack, then you could be right. If Tim Crook stands by his obstinate theory on obsolete technology (even though every new mac still has one), then I think you will be wrong.

Meanwhile, my iPhone 6 still keeps chugging along, but when it finally dies, it will be an Android for me, unless Apple brings back the jack. Before this phone I had a 3G, and a 4S, so every 3rd year I'd get a new one. So I should have had an 8 and an 11, but no jack, no buy. I don't really want to move to Android, and the 6 just keeps on working (especially since I got a free battery replacement due to battery-gate, ha ha).

 

[code-m]

Actually, I agree with Professor Ahmed Ghappour. There are now a few countries that might require you to unlock your phone when entering the country, for example Australia.

Edit - Yes, based on the bill you could face jail anyway if you don't personally unlock it. However, at least you'd have more control over the decision. This is also important for those countries that would like to look into your phone due to 'suspicious behaviour' but is a legally grey area.

https://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/20...ock-their-phones-could-face-10-years-in-jail/

With FaceID, if the customs agent has it, then it would be much easier to 'accidentally' point your phone at your face. This could also apply to a police investigation (covertly while interviewed) and a cyber-criminal (stealing your phone, covertly or overtly, pointing it at your face before running off). Yes, the former examples could be classed as illegal, however, if done covertly, the user wouldn't know about it. This is especially the case for those who are an IT-novice.

Fingerprints will nearly always require a more invasive and physical strategy, therefore, making it harder to unlock.

Disclaimer - This isn't a political post, nor is it intending to be one.

Simple solution lock it so the phone prompts to enter a passcode, this is something that one cannot be forced to provide. Even if confiscated the device has to be returned in a reasonable amount of time, or it could be considered theft and a breach of ones privacy. Suspicious behaviour has to include a warrant, there is nothing stopping an individual to abuse ones power and authority and that is key.

DISCLAIMER: This is not a political post, nor is its intent.

 

[smulji]

I'm not so sure. Now here's a big question.... why is the iPhone 6 the best selling iPhone ever? The only thing that stands out to me is it's the last model to have a headphone jack, and thus people kept buying it year after year after year until it finally got removed off the shelves this year. So, if the 2020 model comes with a headphone jack, then you could be right. If Tim Crook stands by his obstinate theory on obsolete technology (even though every new mac still has one), then I think you will be wrong.

Meanwhile, my iPhone 6 still keeps chugging along, but when it finally dies, it will be an Android for me, unless Apple brings back the jack. Before this phone I had a 3G, and a 4S, so every 3rd year I'd get a new one. So I should have had an 8 and an 11, but no jack, no buy. I don't really want to move to Android, and the 6 just keeps on working (especially since I got a free battery replacement due to battery-gate, ha ha).

The iPhone 6 / 6 Plus sales skyrocketed because it was the first iPhone that had mass appeal to customers in China due to their large screen sizes. Smartphone buyers in China snapped it up in droves. In additon to that there was pent-up demand outside of China for iPhone with larger-than-4" screens. Add those two together & you have explosive sales.

 

[vipergts2207]

Why? You want less screen space?

They should’ve just made the ears full-time status bars, blacked it out, and used white characters/symbols. Even when it’s not already being used that way, which it is much of the time, you’re not really gaining much use out of them with the ‘extra screen space.’ When people are watching a video or looking at a picture, are people actually looking at the bit largely being blocked by the notch? No, they’re looking at the middle of the screen.

 

[Ralfi]

5.4-inch

Why WHY, Apple!? Especially after a new SE may be released...What's the point of shrinking a very popular form factor...

5.8" is perfect...

This would have to be the first major blow Apple have done to the iPhone for me. Up to the X, Apple have increased the screen size incrementally, whilst maintaining a user-friendly form factor for many hand sizes.

So now they're going backwards, asking 5.8"owners to choose either a smaller device or a mammoth device that's way too impractical for many work environments.

The 5.8" was just enough to read emails/webpages for work whilst being pocketable. 5.4" will make using the phone in landscape just about useless.

The only benefit in shrinking it that I can see is a smaller & lighter phone to carry around for running. & I was thinking about investing in an arm strap for running with the Airpods Pro's connected.

We'll see...

 

[cmaier]

They should’ve just made the ears full-time status bars, blacked it out, and used white characters/symbols. Even when it’s not already being used that way, which it is much of the time, you’re not really gaining much use out of them with the ‘extra screen space.’ When people are watching a video or looking at a picture, are people actually looking at the bit largely being blocked by the notch? No, they’re looking at the middle of the screen.

I spend most of my time not looking at pictures or videos when using my phone, and I appreciate that the status information can live up there and not get in the way of the payload space.

 

[tridley68]

Can't wait for this in 2020 I'm already getting bored with my I phone 11 pro max.

 

[vipergts2207]

I spend most of my time not looking at pictures or videos when using my phone, and I appreciate that the status information can live up there and not get in the way of the payload space.

That’s exactly why they should’ve just blacked them out and made them basically invisible except for the status info.

 

[sakurarain]

The iPhone rumors continue from the 2nd day after the ‘current’ new iPhone launch until the last day before the ‘next gen.’ new iPhone launch.

Fine, I only care about the price

 

[cmaier]

The iPhone rumors continue from the 2nd day after the ‘current’ new iPhone launch until the last day before the ‘next gen.’ new iPhone launch.

Fine, I only care about the price

price is easy. Greater than or equal to last year

 

[Metrosey]

Simple solution lock it so the phone prompts to enter a passcode, this is something that one cannot be forced to provide. Even if confiscated the device has to be returned in a reasonable amount of time, or it could be considered theft and a breach of ones privacy. Suspicious behaviour has to include a warrant, there is nothing stopping an individual to abuse ones power and authority and that is key.

DISCLAIMER: This is not a political post, nor is its intent.

You mean lock it within settings after it gets stolen while it's in the cyber-criminals hands? I do not think that's a viable solution. All they have to do is take it, point it at you and run away.

Again, if we focus away from government/police, cyber-criminals have a less intrusive and physical way of getting into the device. Moreover, by the time a user gets another phone/gets home, requests the phone gets remotely locked, the cyber-criminal would have already breached your confidentiality/privacy. If session ID cookies are used (which they likely will be), the cyber-criminal can steal a large amount of data, without needing to do an otherwise sophisticated attack like XSS/XSSI/CSRF.

Previously mentioned, for those that are computer-novices, this point has further strength.

Edit - Cut it down in case it is thought to be a of a political nature, even with the disclaimer and no off-content/political references, I'd rather be on the less risky side

 

[ditzy]

I really really hope the 5.4 phone is real. The last iPhone I was truly happy with was the 5s, a flagship phone which was comfortable for me to use. The SE is a compromise that I’m happy to live with, as I still find it usable even though it isn’t a flagship phone. But if this 5.4 pro is real, I will be ordering it the first minute of pre-orders.