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there goes the Wacom Bamboo Tip and other 3rd party pencil support... Apple removing features again... expect higher prices!
 
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just as i was getting used to pressing down on a hard surface.

just kidding, it still feels unpleasant. but it was still nice to have that functionality via a quick press. long-pressing / holding makes everything slower and feels not really responsive.
 
It's a shame - I'm sure there will be some type of functionality to allow me to answer texts from the lock screen or delete emails still. Oh and I guess choosing levels of flashlight brightness too! As long as that continues, I'm a happy camper.
 
Not all of the 100+ apps on my phone offer 3D Touch features, and most that do merely allow me to do some common tasks by 3D-touching the icon, which essentially saves me a single step. Anything that saves the user a step is welcome, but it's not revolutionary.

I originally read "100+ apps" and thought, "Oh come on now, what do they do, install every app they come across?"

Then I counted the apps on my phone. 142. Wow.
 
I will really miss it, I hope that they add all features to the haptic touch that the current 3D touch can do. It's a great shortcut, especially when using the keyboard, so you can easily press down and move the cursor to change or correct something.
 
Where does iOS indicate when you should long press? Is that a user interface failure too?
To an extent, yes. It's a fundamental problem with touch-based OSes of the era that discoverability is low. Pulling down from the top is another completely hidden interface interaction, and those of us that know how to do it surely do it as second nature, but toss an iPhone at someone that's never used one before, and they'll get some of the basics (tapping, swiping) right away, but they'll probably miss most of the others (long press, 3D touch, swipe from the top, swipe from the top right corner, swipe down from the MIDDLE) except by accident.

This is in contrast to the Mac, where you've always got a menu bar if you don't know the keyboard shortcut, you can click and drag on elements, and you can right-click on the same elements. (Clicking with modifier keys is another thing that has slowly faded into obscurity, however.)

Consider, instead, an icon where when you tap and hold on it, a translucent progress meter overlays and fills in, and you get your tap-and-hold action when the meter is full. Then any time you rested your finger on an icon, you'd get the sense something was happening when you left your finger there for more than just a tap. (My example would probably visually conflict with the way progress in shown when updating apps, but it's just an example off the top of my head.)

iOS is still a great OS, but discoverability of functionality is still a huge issue.
 
Old Apple used to find a way. New Apple would rather piss off users to make a saving. Don’t like or use 3D Touch? Turn it off. You’ve always had the choice. Why should those who do use and like it lose that choice to use it?

To be fair, I don't think this is entirely about saving money, I think Apple currently has a problem with interface consistency and 3D touch doesn't fit while also being extremely technically complicated to implement. 3D touch should have been on every single phone and iPad they shipped from the day they invented it, but now we've got this weird interface fragmentation where you can 3D touch some things but not others. Some of the things you can do with 3D touch can be faked on an iPad (mostly when it comes to text editing) but mostly the peek and pop stuff isn't available, which means if you're used to it, the experience of moving to an iPad is jarring.

I miss 3D touch at least twice a day with my XR, but if they can bring some of that functionality through some combination of haptics and menus or something, I'll consider it a win overall.
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I am the opposite. Face ID >> Touch ID.

And I use 3D Touch daily. I hope Apple presents some nice alternative in iOS13, if they are getting rid of it.

When I use my iPad with TouchID, it feels broken. Sometimes I wake the screen and sit there for a second or two before I remember I have to use my finger to unlock the device, like a barbarian. My XR unlocks so seamlessly, it's like it's never locked at all. It's the most frictionless interaction I have with any technology in my life.
 
Really won't miss it. Don't miss it all on my XR, long-pressing works as well in most instances and it was never clear where 3D Touch would and wouldn't work... it was mostly a guessing game. In all honesty, the biggest feature I enjoyed about the 3D Touch was pressing firmly on the keyboard to get a mouse-like cursor. That is still present on the XR by long-pressing the space bar.

It wasn't a bad feature, but was mostly a novelty.
That and the ability to reply from texts from the lock screen, but they added that in the first update with a long press. Love my XR. I don't plan on upgrading until it completely dies. I'm over spending so much for phones, and the rate that these companies expect you to upgrade your devices is exhausting.
 
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Getting rid of 3D Touch would be a huge mistake, I use it constantly to peek into links that I don’t want to open up in another page, and then if I do I just let it load or if I do not I just let go and it disappears. It’s one of the best features ever put into a smartphone, I will not upgrade this year only to lose my favorite iPhone feature that sets it apart from the competition.

As far as those saying they never use it because they can’t figure it out, well who cares? Many people don’t use their blinkers when they change lanes either, doesn’t mean we should just get rid of turn signals in cars!
 
Not really. You can see the right mouse button. You know it does different things when you click it. It advertises itself better.

Apple's biggest failing with 3D Touch is how poorly they indicated that you could 3D Touch on something. I miss having it, but it was a user interface failure.

Where’s the right button or indicator of opt+click

It’s not a failure of UI, it’s a failure of utilization. Had there been better uses of 3D Touch it would have been fine.

Also the fact they needed to support interactivity without for other phones they could never really use it for anything ground breaking. Same issue we have with not being able to fully take advantage of larger screens because you have to support the small ones too.

Everything doesn’t need big blatant arrows pointing to it to let you know about it.
 

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Say what?

I just tried that on my XS Max and lasted 2 minutes before turning it back on. I lost all my context menus in my Apps (which I use regularly). I also missed the cursor mode for text. That’s just the first two I noticed right away. It’s a massive downgrade in usability.
I did not use 3D Touch often, so of course depends on how one used it before.
 
What a cryin' shame waste of cool technology, and our money over the past 4 years.

This could have made game control way more awesome, along with more efficient app controls. Ugh.

Maybe the Mac's stupid Touch Bar will die off also, before I'm forced to upgrade and pay for another of Apple's useless tech.
 
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I wonder if this will allow them to thicken the glass a little for more durability.
 
I will really miss it, I hope that they add all features to the haptic touch that the current 3D touch can do. It's a great shortcut, especially when using the keyboard, so you can easily press down and move the cursor to change or correct something.

This. This x1000000000. It’s the best part.
 
Where’s the right button or indicator of opt+click

It’s not a failure of UI, it’s a failure of utilization. Had there been better uses of 3D Touch it would have been fine.

Also the fact they needed to support interactivity without for other phones they could never really use it for anything ground breaking. Same issue we have with not being able to fully take advantage of larger screens because you have to support the small ones too.

Everything doesn’t need big blatant arrows pointing to it to let you know about it.

For the mouse you have there, it's a bit different—at this point, right clicking is already a decades-old established paradigm. They're taking your knowledge of how a mouse works and telling you, "look, this doesn't look the same, but it works the same. Just pretend like there's a button there, and we'll take care of it for you."

Option-clicking was similar, at some point—because the Mac started with only one mouse button, using keyboard modifier keys was a familiar paradigm. I would bet that about 75% of the time you talk to someone that's well acquainted with option-click started with an OS before OS X. (That's a guess, obviously, but honestly, option-click is not something I feel is well understood by Mac users anymore.)

I'm not saying that everything needs arrows pointing to it, but there are some elements that are *obvious* when you sit down at a Mac with a keyboard and a mouse. You can type. You can click. There's a menu bar.

Some of iOS' best functionality is incredibly cryptic, and you can tell that it is because every friggin' week there's another stupid article with a title like "7 things you didn't know your iPhone could do". And I read all of them and every once in a great while, they're RIGHT, even though I read the release notes for the OS and watch the WWDC keynote and install the iOS beta as soon as it's available, etc.

I'm not someone calling for a return to skeuomorphism or trying to cram a desktop interface onto the phone, but how the hell are you supposed to know that swiping down from the right corner does a different thing from swiping down in the middle of an iPhone X(R/S)? There's no indication that swiping down is even a thing anywhere on the screen. It's not great interface design.

I believe in the general philosophy of iOS as a system (get out of the way, let the apps do the work), but telegraphing some functionality would only help the OS.
 
I'm hoping this change is "invisible" because I use 3D Touch all the time. Also hoping we "get something" for it, like longer battery life.

Well you will get is a thinner and lighter phone.
I always preferred long press to pushing my finger into the glass screen anyway. Less unnecessary stress on the hand.
 
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