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Chris7777 that's a nice compelling "article" you just wrote. I really enjoyed your thoughts on the matter.Thanks for taking the time to share all that.

+1. Thank you, Chris7777.

Typical house alarms are a joke and very easy to bypass.
They are simply deterrents for amateurs.

In our neighborhood, when an alarm goes off there will be police at the door with 10 minutes.

I like that.
 
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Ridiculous amounts of paranoia in this thread. Other parts of the world have embraced this technology for years.
 

Government tracking my every move?

For what purpose, exactly? How am I that important? I mean, I'm flattered, but it might be a waste. If they let Noam Chomsky walk around then I should be golden!

They're more than welcome to track me, but if they're looking for mysterious secrets and earth-shattering excitement they could probably do better.

I guess I'll go and watch some "subversive" South Park or something, LOL.

There would be cameras in the house or they would be viewing my every move remotely, listening in and I'd be all like. . . "oh hi guys, if you can hear me I'm going to brush my teeth now. Then I'm going to hop in the shower, but keep in mind your picture might steam up. And then I'm off to buy bread. Should I go for a baguette or a marble rye, what do you guys think? And my condo doesn't get a lot of southern light, so I was thinking maybe I'll go for a nice lamp or something. Should I spring for the IKEA sale tomorrow? I dunno . ."
 
I would rather have:

720p Video,
64GB memory
6MP+ camera.
Faster Processor

I would rather have a flash for the camera and an AM/FM tuner. Those should both be very useful to many people and very feasible with current technology and within Apple's economic constraints. The more futuristic wish, is biometric security, such as a retina scan, so the phone would always be locked unless I'm looking at it when I click the home or sleep button.
 
Government tracking my every move?

For what purpose, exactly? How am I that important? I mean, I'm flattered, but it might be a waste. If they let Noam Chomsky walk around then I should be golden!

They're more than welcome to track me, but if they're looking for mysterious secrets and earth-shattering excitement they could probably do better.

I guess I'll go and watch some "subversive" South Park or something, LOL.

There would be cameras in the house or they would be viewing my every move remotely, listening in and I'd be all like. . . "oh hi guys, if you can hear me I'm going to brush my teeth now. Then I'm going to hop in the shower, but keep in mind your picture might steam up. And then I'm off to buy bread. Should I go for a baguette or a marble rye, what do you guys think? And my condo doesn't get a lot of southern light, so I was thinking maybe I'll go for a nice lamp or something. Should I spring for the IKEA sale tomorrow? I dunno . ."

I don't know, maybe profiling potential war-protesters and figuring out the hierarchy and stop it from the source before it happens. Nothing that they can't use FaceBook or Twitter for, but it would be easier to track down a person with RFID. Even a cellphone can be ditched at the last minute. :D
 
...There is a reason that their was a big stink about Obama, and his blackberry.
If it is not good enough for the president of the united state, then why is it good enough for you?...

I don't think I need as secure a phone as the President of the USA. Hackers have much more incentive to get into his e-mail than mine.
 
In our neighborhood, when an alarm goes off there will be police at the door with 10 minutes.

I like that.
We get similar response times in my neighborhood as well.
But after seeing the results of a criminal who knew what he was doing, it's very scary when you see how easy Honeywell/Ademco alarm systems are to bypass.
Just about every alarm company uses this equipment... they just re-brand it.
 
Government tracking my every move?

For what purpose, exactly? How am I that important? I mean, I'm flattered, but it might be a waste. If they let Noam Chomsky walk around then I should be golden!

They're more than welcome to track me, but if they're looking for mysterious secrets and earth-shattering excitement they could probably do better.

I guess I'll go and watch some "subversive" South Park or something, LOL.

There would be cameras in the house or they would be viewing my every move remotely, listening in and I'd be all like. . . "oh hi guys, if you can hear me I'm going to brush my teeth now. Then I'm going to hop in the shower, but keep in mind your picture might steam up. And then I'm off to buy bread. Should I go for a baguette or a marble rye, what do you guys think? And my condo doesn't get a lot of southern light, so I was thinking maybe I'll go for a nice lamp or something. Should I spring for the IKEA sale tomorrow? I dunno . ."
America is turning into China, you just dont know it yet.
 
I have carried a palm pilot now for like 7 or 8 years, and I have not put anything on it , nor will I, that If I loose it, I won't be out much more than the device itself.

no financial info, though admittedly I need to be keeping better track of my cash.

I do have a lot of phone numbers and addresses, But I have had both the device actually being left behind for several hours at a restaurant, while on vacation, plus the nefarious hard reset occur unexpectedly.

What would you do if your wallet shredded your cash when it had a hard reset?

What about your drivers licence?

one of the reasons I like having both a phone and a pda, is I can talk on one and read from the other at the same time, too much convergence, places all your eggs in one basket, sure a swiss army knife is awesome to have, but what if you need 2 pairs of pliers, and they not only are on the same device, but that device has either been stolen or is non functioning?

Its like stocks, you may be in a sure thing, but people are involved ,and while it may be a good wager, are your really wanting to risk your house on it?
 
Interesting. This has potential but it could pose a security threat if it lands in the hands of hackers..
 
Tsing siusam jyttoi hunggwek.
Please mind the gap.
Densha to hōmu to no aida ga hiroku aite orimasu no de, ashimoto ni go-chūi kudasai.
As there is a wide space between the train and the platform, please watch your step

But seriously, I don't see the iPhone becoming an ecash device like in Japan for some time.
 
Japan has been using this technology since 2004. DoCoMo launched phones with embedded chips that you could use as a subway pass, to buy train tickets, and to make purchases in convenience stores.

And as other posters mentioned, these RFID cards are common in metro passes - London's Oyster card, Hong Kong's Octopus card, and here in Shanghai we have the Jiaotong card, to name a few. Beats having to run your pass through the strip each time.

I welcome the addition to future iPhone models, as long as we're given the choice to completely disable the features if desired. And Apple should include a free tin foil hat.:D
 
Densha to hōmu to no aida ga hiroku aite orimasu no de, ashimoto ni go-chūi kudasai.
As there is a wide space between the train and the platform, please watch your step

But seriously, I don't see the iPhone becoming an ecash device like in Japan for some time.

Now I really wanna live in Japan! I guess I'll have to go back and finish learning the basics of Japanese though. :( New Zealand has GoBus cards, but I think thats chip not RFID.
 
I have the passcode enabled on my iPhone, to protect my data if the phone is stolen. But I'd like to have a proximity indicator so that I didn't need to enter the passcode if the phone was, say, in my house. I can imagine that this might be possible with RFID.

I like this idea.

I don't know, maybe profiling potential war-protesters and figuring out the hierarchy and stop it from the source before it happens. Nothing that they can't use FaceBook or Twitter for, but it would be easier to track down a person with RFID. Even a cellphone can be ditched at the last minute. :D

You are scaring me. You can keep your RFID off of me.
 
I used to see an exciting, brave new world ahead, full of the advances of technology. Now whenever I see exciting new tech, I just think "what a shame that'll never happen because of the foil-hatted brigade". Some of the paranoid "logic" I see in here baffles me.

Do people really think that our governments have vast (and I mean VAST) departments of people tracking everywhere we go and everything we do via CCTV cameras, our SatNav recent locations and our iTunes and Amazon buying habits? And jeez, so what if they do? It's the entirely different issue of what they do that matters, if a government (or criminal) decides you're a target, good old fashioned surveillance is going to provide them with the information they need anyway.

Besides, I don't see many people saying that our almost total reliance on credit cards and cashpoints (ATMs) has lead to an Orwellian state, despite the fact that your credit card and cash withdrawal records give one single company a great insight into both your spending habits and your movements, but so what?

Think about 3 things:
1. How much data already exists concerning your lifestyle?
2. How could this information be used against you?
3. How many "if's" did your answer to question 2 include? How likely are those "if's" (without letting fantasy affect your answer)

When did we get so paranoid about people knowing things about us, or did our egos just get so big that we suddenly thought we actually mattered to these people? At the end of the day, if a company sends me targetted advertising based on my location or spending habits, I'd argue that this is actually preferable to the amount of junk advertising I receive that is totally irrelevant to me.

There's a massive gap between an ability to misuse a technology and a will to misuse it. I have an ability to kill you, but I have no will to do so. Am I bad? Some people will always have the malicious will, even if there has always been an alternative means of achieving the same result, but that is a risk that has existed with, but not necessarily been increased with, nearly every new technology.
 
My car uses an RFID ignition system (push button start) and some credit cards are already RFID capable...this is theoretically possible if the iPhone had an RFID chip in it.

- Even most cars that still use a traditional lock for ignition use an RFID in the key for aditional security. Usualy you can turn on ignition without the RFID, but some other important system (like fuel injection) is locked. This is the case with my 12 year old inexpensive city car and nearly every other car in use today.

- Several years ago I worked in a big office building where all doors could be opened with an RFID. Imagine a "master key" for a big building is lost - every lock has to be changed - very expensive. With RFID they just delete the lost tag from the system.

- A friend is a customer of a car sharing system. He can open and drive any of these cars using an RFID and it is billied automaticly.

- In October I did my first marathon. Yes, there are great things in live without computers. Or not? Everyone got a tag, RFID provides precise finish and intermediate times for thousends of people.

There are and will be so many applications for RFID....

Christian
 
I don't know, maybe profiling potential war-protesters and figuring out the hierarchy and stop it from the source before it happens.

War-protesters? LOL!

You guys are getting really paranoid here. Tracking our movement? Collecting information about us? For what purpose? What are you guys so afraid is going to happen?

This is like people getting so concerned that google is collecting information about what you do on the internet and your emails. Who cares? What are you doing that is so secretive?

What do you guys think people are doing with this information that's so scary? If you just have a problem with privacy, I can understand that, but what terrible things are you thinking is going on here?

If there is going to be some strange secret facility where 350 million US citizens are illegally tracked and monitored twenty-four hours a day by a strange secret branch of covert government agents, they will use this information for....yep, advertisement.
 
Most people who use the London Underground (and that's a few million people) use an RFID "Oyster" card, that you top up with cash from time to time and then it is debited every time you swipe it through a barrier. It's a great implementation of the technology, and there are already some credit cards that now combine the Oyster card RFID. I'd love to see this embedded in my iPhone as well.

And no, I'm not concerned that Boris Johnson can see that I travelled from Liverpool Street to North Acton last Tuesday.
 
Right. Because rather than just SEEING kids, they'll somehow create a "child's clothes detector." Uh huh.

You need to read a few credible articles on the net to KNOW there are RFID detectors. Same ignorance of "oh I can see my kids, nobody would ever take them. There are so many kids in my neighborhood" - is the reason why there is Neighborhood Watch, Amber Alert, Disney parks gps wrist tracking systems for kids! I live in a neighborhood where a 9yr old girl was kidnapped and brutally killed. I look out the window EVERY morning to see the memorial in the parkette with her picture: and I'm terribly sorry for her parents, yet thank GOD that our hood (not the best) is more aware of what's going on. Look up "Holy Jones" and read the stories.

@NT1440, As far as I can tell Apple was amongst the LAST phones to use Bluetooth and enabled A2DP; and as YET to enable 802.11n (which their other products have). I used Bluetooth some 9yrs ago on an Ericsson T39m. THAT is using future technologies. I pit it to you again JUST how much more convenient will RFID readers would make your day??

Most people who use the London Underground (and that's a few million people) use an RFID "Oyster" card, that you top up with cash from time to time and then it is debited every time you swipe it through a barrier. It's a great implementation of the technology, and there are already some credit cards that now combine the Oyster card RFID. I'd love to see this embedded in my iPhone as well.

And no, I'm not concerned that Boris Johnson can see that I travelled from Liverpool Street to North Acton last Tuesday.

Great use of the technology, but does this really improve the traffic significantly that using the SIM security cards that are on say your bankcard or credit card?
 
Great use of the technology, but does this really improve the traffic significantly that using the SIM security cards that are on say your bankcard or credit card?

I'd say yes, because it's the difference for me of removing my wallet from my back pocket, holding it over the card reader, and putting it back in my jeans pocket. That I can do virtually without breaking my stride, so it's only the slight delay in passing through the barrier that slows me down. Compare that to a SIM card, I'd have to take my wallet out of my pocket, remove the card from the wallet, insert the card into the reader (takes longer than just holding over a proximity reader and more or less requires you to stand still, plus elderly people take longer to align card with slot). Then I've got to remove my card and replace it in my wallet and return wallet to pocket. I'd say the removal and replacement of the card from my wallet and having to insert and remove it from a SIM reader are going to slow me down significantly.

Multiply that by the amount of people passing through each ticket barrier every day, and I think that makes a massive difference.
 
Nope, don't trust it. Not yet, anyway. I need to know it's secure before using something like that.

The ability to use my phone to unlock my car is more of a PITA than anything else; it's not like I won't have my car keys. (And I drive a car that's impossible to lock the keys in.)

I won;t say there's not potential for something like this, but I just feel uncomfortable using tech this new.
 
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