Yep... and have every hacking maggot trying to get into them. I think they should have licenses for people to use computers... if you have fraud convictions... sorry bud, no computer or internet for you!
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Apple Experimenting With RFID-Enabled iPhone Prototypes?
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Just like guns!
Yes, so instead of people robbing you on the street and take whatever you have, they will cut your hand off to get all your money, your car, and access to your house, etc... Nice future!
RFID is also for tracking movement
RFID's are often used in retail to track movement of product within the store, inventory control, and in few stores once you've picked up a product they can track how you move around the store, where you linger longest, what traffic patters you use to wind through the store. It's all very useful in store planning and in-store advertising. Once you have left the store the RFID is supposed to be too far from the receiver to track it. But that is where some people get to worrying about big brother and such.
Department stores also use it for Loss Prevention and tracking yet it's incredibly smaller compared to the magnetic and clips you find on clothes or DVD boxes for the few stores who still do that.
RFID's are often used in retail to track movement of product within the store, inventory control, and in few stores once you've picked up a product they can track how you move around the store, where you linger longest, what traffic patters you use to wind through the store. It's all very useful in store planning and in-store advertising. Once you have left the store the RFID is supposed to be too far from the receiver to track it. But that is where some people get to worrying about big brother and such.
Department stores also use it for Loss Prevention and tracking yet it's incredibly smaller compared to the magnetic and clips you find on clothes or DVD boxes for the few stores who still do that.
It's already used in pets to track them, some lojack systems and some states are pushing to put it in kids to protect them from kidnappers. As if that happens so often that the state needs to track everywhere a kid, who eventually grows up and always has it.
Part of the health reform bills suggested that an RFID with our medical info be placed inside everyone so in an emergency and EMT or ER Nurse would just scan you and know all your medical history. I don't mind that on an ID bracelet but your not putting it inside me or my kids. I don't know if it stayed in the current version of the bill or not.
This is actually very interesting. Swipe payments have never taken hold here in the US, but its obvious they will (we caught up with SMS a few years late too). If Apple can get out in front, they'll lead the market yet again.
Oh before you call me an ignoramus, Libertyforall, just know that your cell phone or iphone is broadcasting its MAC address and IMEI, it's just a different code from the RFID tag. It's your future, come out from your libertarian cave and help make it more secure.
Carbonware, cmon, that's not in any of the bills, read up
Oh before you call me an ignoramus, Libertyforall, just know that your cell phone or iphone is broadcasting its MAC address and IMEI, it's just a different code from the RFID tag. It's your future, come out from your libertarian cave and help make it more secure.
Carbonware, cmon, that's not in any of the bills, read up
This is why I hate religion. The constant hounding that some how death will be better than life. I can see lot of nut jobs trying to bring about this tech to try and forfill the prophesy to up their prospects in death.
The tech itself is pure.
Purely neutral that is.
It's the collective ******** that is Man that makes it good and evil.
I find it peculiar, that many of the same people who rail on, defame, and despise windows, are so eager to embrace a technology, that for all intents and purposes , is the exact same thing.
If you really don't trust microsoft, a business, then why do you trust apple another business, as if they have your best interest in mind, rather than the shareholders?
There is a reason that their was a big stink about Obama, and his blackberry.
If it is not good enough for the president of the united state, then why is it good enough for you?
Another thing to keep in mind, is those who are in charge change over time, someone you trust may be in charge for the moment, but what about when someone you don't trust steps into that role.
I am not going to browbeat anyone with it, just suggesting you think about the potential, for misuse,
I mean how many of you LOVE spam, spyware, and keyloggers?
Yet you are all for carrying around a device that not only fills the same purpose as the above, but surpasses, them.
Ever wondered how the credit bureaus were given the authority to keep tabs on our citizens, and Who it was that gave them that right?
Identity theft would be non existent, if a system that both enables, and promotes it were not in effect, at our insistence.
If you really don't trust microsoft, a business, then why do you trust apple another business, as if they have your best interest in mind, rather than the shareholders?
There is a reason that their was a big stink about Obama, and his blackberry.
If it is not good enough for the president of the united state, then why is it good enough for you?
Another thing to keep in mind, is those who are in charge change over time, someone you trust may be in charge for the moment, but what about when someone you don't trust steps into that role.
I am not going to browbeat anyone with it, just suggesting you think about the potential, for misuse,
I mean how many of you LOVE spam, spyware, and keyloggers?
Yet you are all for carrying around a device that not only fills the same purpose as the above, but surpasses, them.
Ever wondered how the credit bureaus were given the authority to keep tabs on our citizens, and Who it was that gave them that right?
Identity theft would be non existent, if a system that both enables, and promotes it were not in effect, at our insistence.
my dog and cat have one of these under their skin... don't want one under mine either!!
If the chips are so cheap and abundant then why rely on just one for more critical security intensive transactions. We never rely on one authority except for the most basic transactions.
So have your own authority server at home near the door that builds up a series of chips associated with you. No doubt on any given day you would have a few or lots of those chips on you.
When you want to transact the other party scans the area picks up all chips area and send that list an the transaction detail back to your server maybe via a proxy like your own phone if it's happy that enough are in list it approves.
Yes the are reasons to be cautious of what the technology enables but that applies to every technology. That same biblical quote could be applied to any of them.
So have your own authority server at home near the door that builds up a series of chips associated with you. No doubt on any given day you would have a few or lots of those chips on you.
When you want to transact the other party scans the area picks up all chips area and send that list an the transaction detail back to your server maybe via a proxy like your own phone if it's happy that enough are in list it approves.
Yes the are reasons to be cautious of what the technology enables but that applies to every technology. That same biblical quote could be applied to any of them.
I do have a chip implanted in my (left) hand. I did it for hobby reasons a year ago! I read a book on it and ever since ive been doing so much with RFID. I love it, its the coolest thing. I even made a doggy door that opens just for my dog when she walks up to it. Uneducated/close minded people always look at me weird when I tell them about it though, but thats because they dont understand. I dont know why you put that mumbo-jumbo at the bottom of your post since it has nothing to do with RFID technology, it talks about a "mark" done by the "beast" or the "devil" or whatever, not a chip that is voluntarily put in for fun/hobby reasons. But im not going to get in to religion because it tends to be a touchy subject with believers.. I DO start my motorcycle, car, lock/unlock my house, lock/unlock my computer with my left hand all the time, I think it'll be great when my iPhone only works when its in my hand!
Unsecure or not, the last time someone walked up to my house and saw there was a scanner instead of a keyhole they had to ring the bell and question it, and thought it was the neatest thing.
I know more people that have had their houses broken in because they used some cheap ass locks and someone picked it or broke, never heard of someone cloning their RFID numbers from their hand yet lolThis is going to be cool and save a lot of time!
Walk into Walmart, Target, Grocery Store, etc., grab a cart and get what you want. Then walk through an arch at the doorway and everything is scanned via RFID, totaled and charged to your iPhone.
Walk into Walmart, Target, Grocery Store, etc., grab a cart and get what you want. Then walk through an arch at the doorway and everything is scanned via RFID, totaled and charged to your iPhone.
Thank you. I honestly don't trust it.
People say technology is neutral but I'm not convinced. It's for the same reason we don't have nuclear ovens and solar-powered bombs. Technology is developed with a purpose, and when discussing technology that has the ability to track, and to retrieve and communicate private information to people I don't know or have no reason to trust, then the question of it's necessity should be strongly implemented.
And yes, the internet is capable of as much leak in privacy, but that is hardly excuse to allow more. There is legislation being considered right now that will determine the future freedom of the internet and whether or not even more privacy will be sacrificed, and that should be fought as well in favor of civil liberties. And so should the implementation of RFID's.
Unsecure or not, the last time someone walked up to my house and saw there was a scanner instead of a keyhole they had to ring the bell and question it, and thought it was the neatest thing.
I know someone who has 2 dual sided dead bolts on their doors, and no door knobs on either side.
Sounds cool, until its the middle of the night and theres a fire, and no one can locate both keys.
is Security and or Wow above all other concerns really all that wise?
What if the power is out?
Technology is a tool, but the problem is, so is a gun, and its a very powerful tool, the power to annihilate a small nation from the map, is quite literally at the tip of a finger pushing a button.
Every tool, we have has the potential for misuse, my problem, is that so many, don't consider the ramifications of these things. Should we start letting children drive when they can reach the pedals of a car?
Should they be allowed to own guns when they are physically strong enough to pull the trigger.
Everyone freaked out at 911, so much so that nail clippers are not allowed on air planes, yet technology that can track our every action is applauded, and cheered for, with our pride in our so called accomplishments. But in actuality are we really wise enough to wield such power? it has only been 76 years since Hitler rose to power in Germany,
Just imagine if he had our technology.
in less than 10 years he engulfed the globe, in technology developed in the late 1800's early 1900's , what do you suppose someone , so inclined could do, with all of the toys, procedures, and eager beaver adopters, we have now?
The Jews were tattooed against their wills, now its the cool thing to do. We are freely and unquestioningly allowed to modify, mutilate, and alter our bodies, yet, how many really think of the long term ramifications, and effects , of such things. Much less the mandatory ones.
Its always some other person, or other country, or somebody else, that the bad things happen to but what if, just what if, it happens here?
it has only been 8 years since 911, yet how many have already divorced it from their conciousness, as something that only happens to someone somewhere else.
I know these things can't be stopped, some of us believe they have already been foretold, but to those who don't , those who believe they really are treading on new frontiers, and unbeaten paths, look at your friends, your neighbours, your co-workers, and ask yourself, have people really changed, since 1933, have people in general, really changed since April 12, 1861? and just what do you think those same people will do, with our technology, if they are so inclined?
We all like to think we are smarter than that, like we could or never would go down those dark paths, but if that were true, then why does it keep happening.
how about I phrase it a different way, what if you were mandated, to carry one of these devices? and what if someone you knew was incompetent, (and I am being generous, by not saying downright malicious) had access to your personal identification. Would you really feel secure? Do you feel secure enough to PM someone on this forum your identification, info? I am sure mac forums would not intentionally divulge it, unless of course law enforcement, inclined them to, but what about the myriad of hackers, and malware makers?
How many "secure" impregnable, sites have been hacked, and private info exposed?
the Nazis believed the enigma machine was uncrackable, but it was cracked.
its like leap frog. only now the quest for the bigger and better is also indoctrinated into us as consumerism.
Remember how fast OSX was hacked a year or so back?
the invulnerable Os, hacked in minutes.
Are you really sure you want to place all your eggs in one basket?
just 2 minor things to consider, what if you drop your iphone, and what if its stolen?
What if your neighbour poisons your dog and extracts the RFID to enter through the doggie door?
I don't believe we should be paranoid, 911 made too many people that way, but I also think it made too many people dependant on others and things, to "protect them".
back when castles were seiged, the walls of the castle often protected those inside, from those that intended to do them harm on the outside, but those very same walls that protected them, also imprisoned them, from the sustenance of food and water, that eventually ran out, and could only be replenished from the outside.
A knights suit of armor does them little good if its weight keeps them trapped down at the bottom of the moat.
"minutes" if you don't count the days of preparation he took before the contest writing his exploit.....
I've worked in mobile communications RFID project. I can tell you the real application is in targeted advertising. Naturally you can do some nice and cool stuff with it but wast majority of partners are interested about the possibility of delivering targeted place of purchase advertising etc. From consumers standpoint I think the mobile communication manufacturers should pay for the RFID upgrade...
I 100% believe this. They have to have a good reason (read: to make more money) before even bothering coming up with some rough ideas for it's consumer use.
Agreed. I'm not a big fan of this RFID idea.
Proximity indicator and passcode
I have the passcode enabled on my iPhone, to protect my data if the phone is stolen. But I'd like to have a proximity indicator so that I didn't need to enter the passcode if the phone was, say, in my house. I can imagine that this might be possible with RFID.
I have the passcode enabled on my iPhone, to protect my data if the phone is stolen. But I'd like to have a proximity indicator so that I didn't need to enter the passcode if the phone was, say, in my house. I can imagine that this might be possible with RFID.
Unsecure or not, the last time someone walked up to my house and saw there was a scanner instead of a keyhole they had to ring the bell and question it, and thought it was the neatest thing.
Nobody picks locks anymore.
A criminal doesn't need to clone you RFID chip, they kick your door in or simply come in through the weakest point in any house... a window.
Typical house alarms are a joke and very easy to bypass.
They are simply deterrents for amateurs.