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Apple Experimenting With RFID-Enabled iPhone Prototypes?

I can see it now . . .

1. Sit down near the pole at the nudie bar.
2. Say "Shake it!" to whoever is on stage.
3. Shake your iPhone near the entertainer to give a tip.

What could be easier?
:D
 
One step closer in RFID advancements. Soon, most of you will have a chip implanted in your right hand. There will be no need for driver's license, credit card, id's, money, insurance cards...etc. The RFID chip will hold that information. Even allow you to enter and leave your house and car without an actual key! Just google RFID and you'll see what it is and its intent.

“He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.” Revelation 13:16-17
 
rdowns said:
Very interesting. This would put Apple way ahead of anyone, if true.
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I thought it would constitute catching up to practices in Japan for at least the past several years? I'm curious whether implementing it in the US requires newly-developed technology or merely the adoption of tech that exists and is used elsewhere.
 
str1f3 said:
You won't see 720p recording anytime soon. It's not a coincidence that Apple introduced the iFrame format in iMovie. Just like it was no coincidence that iMovie added stabilization features right before an iPhone could record video. The next iPhone, and maybe the 3GS with an upgrade, will be using the 960x540 format.
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Yes, but but since 540 x 1.5 = 720 there it would be very easy and fast to downsample from a 720 Sensor and thereby most of the 720 quality may stay in data if you play the resulting 540 at 720.
 
rtdunham said:
I thought it would constitute catching up to practices in Japan for at least the past several years? I'm curious whether implementing it in the US requires newly-developed technology or merely the adoption of tech that exists and is used elsewhere.
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All it would require is America finally getting off its ass and getting back up to date in tech.
 
ortuno2k said:
One step closer in RFID advancements. Soon, most of you will have a chip implanted in your right hand. There will be no need for driver's license, credit card, id's, money, insurance cards...etc. The RFID chip will hold that information. Even allow you to enter and leave your house and car without an actual key! Just google RFID and you'll see what it is and its intent.

“He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.” Revelation 13:16-17
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:D Progress need not concern itself with ethics nor even caution
 
Drumjim85 said:
RFID isn't secure. You can sit at a street corner with a reader and pick up people's pasport info without them knowing. Until they some how change that I'm totally against RFID.
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I'm sure they overlooked the lack of encryption. Thanks for setting Apple's Engineering staff straight.
 
cmaier said:
Right. Because rather than just SEEING kids, they'll somehow create a "child's clothes detector." Uh huh.
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There are already RFID chips in some clothing. The chips don't have batteries and are tiny.

"It becomes unnervingly easy to imagine a scenario where everything you buy that's more expensive than a Snickers will sport RFID tags, which typically include a 64-bit unique identifier yielding about 18 thousand trillion possible values. KSW-Microtec, a German company, has invented washable RFID tags designed to be sewn into clothing. And according to EE Times, the European central bank is considering embedding RFID tags into banknotes by 2005."
~ http://news.cnet.com/2010-1069-980325.html
 
Cool,

I was thinking of doing this with a Bladox Waver and slipping it under a Gelaskin on the back. iPhone can indeed run the Java app on the SIM without Jailbreaking.

I'd like to put my work door access card, my Mastercard Paypass and my pulic transport card all in my iPhone. Then I wouldn't need to take my wallet and keys with me all the time. Very nice.

Some of you guys are so paranoid! NFC's range is less than 4 inches. It isn't related to the system used for electronic tolling.

I guess that means a SWP SiM card slot for the next iPhone!
 
Everyone who thinks that this a good development should read The Fourth Realm trilogy by John Twelve Hawks, Fahrenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury and 1984 by George Orwell.
 
Winni said:
Everyone who thinks that this a good development should read The Fourth Realm trilogy by John Twelve Hawks, Fahrenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury and 1984 by George Orwell.
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OR, they can not be paranoid and take a look at how well its working in the rest of the world. Why America seems to fall behind in tech (and lately it seems almost every aspect) is beyond me.
 
Drumjim85 said:
RFID isn't secure. You can sit at a street corner with a reader and pick up people's pasport info without them knowing. Until they some how change that I'm totally against RFID.
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RFID is more applicable to applications where only partial info rests with the RFID tag, such as the tag number itself, where the reader understands the ID, its physical and temporal location, and refers to the critical data on a secure internet connection associated with that item. It is used to track shipments, high value inventory items, dogs and small children, model rockets, and is a really stupid thing to have in a passport, especially with any more info than the ID number itself.

The credit cards with the personal info chip have some hardwired security, but if someone physically steals the card they can still use it till it is reported and disabled. CC TOS allows the possessor to use it so you can give it to your daughter or girlfriend, despite it having your name on it.

Rocketman
 
rdowns said:
Very interesting. This would put Apple way ahead of anyone, if true.

Full quote from 9to5:
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Not really. I know for a fact that Discover/Novus tested this technology at least 4 years ago. I know because they never asked for their motorola Q back.
 
What's the point of this? Aren't Bluetooth and WiFi already made to communicate between devices?

Isn't RFID that thing that sounds an alarm when you try to steal something from a clothes shop? What would be the use of that in an iPhone?
 
cmaier said:
Right. Because rather than just SEEING kids, they'll somehow create a "child's clothes detector." Uh huh.
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he's worried about blind pedophiles. His--and numerous other posts in this thread--show how extreme, and extremely silly, some people's points of view are.

I liked the guy whose signature said something like "science and philosophy, not religion and politics." Some of these "they're coming to get us" guys need to use a little more reason.

imho
 
baryon said:
What's the point of this? Aren't Bluetooth and WiFi already made to communicate between devices?

Isn't RFID that thing that sounds an alarm when you try to steal something from a clothes shop? What would be the use of that in an iPhone?
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A RFID device today can be very cheap printed label for example as replacement of a barcode.
And yes steal alarm is similar tec.
 
Chaszmyr said:
Sounds awesome to me. I will not be truly happy until my iPhone can replace both my keys and my credit card!
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My car uses an RFID ignition system (push button start) and some credit cards are already RFID capable...this is theoretically possible if the iPhone had an RFID chip in it.
 
piz said:
A RFID device today can be very cheap printed label for example as replacement of a barcode.
And yes steal alarm is similar tec.
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Yes, but what would the use be in an iPhone? Would it be to recognise products to look them up on the net to compare prices, or what?
 
The key to this technology's success in Japan was its adoption by the train/subway companies.
Everyone (in Tokyo, at least) uses the trains, and having RFID-enabled cards or devices meant that people no longer had to bother buying tickets and calculating, each time, how much they had to pay.
So the adoption came in the form of a greatly enhanced user experience.
Once RFIDs were widespread, then, it allowed for numerous other venues to allow added benefit to their services.

In the US, the only service that comes close in having the potential to encourage widespread adoption would be the EasyPass system, because almost everyone has cars.
But do most people regularly use toll roads? I certainly don't.

Maybe they're only including it to appease Japanese customers?
That seems quite far-fetched.
But I really struggle to see how this kind of technology can be pushed only by one manufacturer.
Unless there is major backing from the government or a corporation that provides one of these said services that would encourage consumer adoption, it seems like a bad investment for Apple.



irmongoose
 
The generation of iPhones that contain an RFID chip will be the generation of iPhones I opt out of purchasing.

-c
 
Think this is quite a bad development..
RFID can only lead to bad things. If you tell people that a chip will be implanted in them that will track their location and everything they do, they'll say no.
If you tell them that they can open their car from a few feet away with it or don't have to carry your credit cards around, they'll jump up to get it.

People need to read 1984...Anyone who thinks that it would be crazy for governments to do these things or try these things, then you're really not all that bright..Look no further than the UK
 
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