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Apple Explains iPhone 15 Pro Requirement for Apple Intelligence
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Apple kept saying that their 6 GB is superior to Android 8 GB. Turns out not so much
That's right. M1 systems and A16 systems are otherwise completely identical apart from the slower NPU on M1. There can be no other possible reason.
Can Android with all of its new AI features run on those older 8GB devices?Apple kept saying that their 6 GB is superior to Android 8 GB. Turns out not so much
It hasn't been years in the making but a little over a year.
Craig Federighi tested Gitbub Copilot during Christmas 2022 and it was only after this experience, Apple started a coordinated, concerted effort to make what's today's Apple Intelligence.
Yes, they had tidbits and parts of it earlier but more as separat things like doing research on LLMs.
I don't quite understand why the basic feature isn't rolled to to all iPhone via apples cloud AI...
Still confusing, I know running LLM has some hardware limitations, that causes old devices can’t work with it, but Apple Intelligent includes cloud side right? And ChatGPT right?
If Apple just didnt offer LLM on old devices, fine, totally understandable, but if they fully banned A.I. which means Cloud side and Third party AI on old devices, then, any excuse r low level bull ****.
I might still go get an 15Pro Max, just, after years and years, no good opinion on Apple as old days. Using iPhone and MacBook by habitual already, not because how good is their product.
Sad, but not to difficult to decide to find replacements at these years.
If Apple just didnt offer LLM on old devices, fine, totally understandable, but if they fully banned A.I. which means Cloud side and Third party AI on old devices, then, any excuse r low level bull ****.
I might still go get an 15Pro Max, just, after years and years, no good opinion on Apple as old days. Using iPhone and MacBook by habitual already, not because how good is their product.
Sad, but not to difficult to decide to find replacements at these years.
Apple was very late when it came to generative AI as LLMs and stable diffusion. They weren't late to other machine learning techniques.
I'm pretty sure Apple didn't decide to put LLMs locally on the iPhone until sometime mid 2023.
Google did originally keep the Pixel 8 and Pixel 8a out of this because of not enough RAM. Now you can enable it in the developer options. Both Pixel 8 and Pixel 8a has 8Gb of RAM.
So why did Google have to be persuaded to open it up for these two devices if they ran their model comfortably all the time?
so... even on an iPhone 15 pro - if the phone offloads to the cloud/open AI tasks that are too computationally taxing - why not, on older phones, offload 100% of the tasks and make some of the features available?
And Apple has attacked this problem by using adapters instead of support multiple models.
So many people are here commenting that they either believe Apple or don't. And yet they have no real evidence either way. I wonder how many here are actually experienced machine learning software engineers? Probably not many.
With iOS 18, iPadOS 18, and macOS Sequoia, Apple is introducing a new personalized AI experience called Apple Intelligence that uses on-device, generative large-language models to enhance the user experience across iPhone, iPad, and Mac.
These new AI features require Apple's latest iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max models to work, while only Macs and iPads with M1 or later chips will support Apple Intelligence. Since the news came to light, many users have been asking what the reason is for the cut-off.
In The Talk Show Live From WWDC 2024, Daring Fireball's John Gruber put the question to Apple's AI/machine learning head John Giannandrea, marketing chief Greg Joswiak, and software engineering chief Craig Federighi, and this was the response.
Apple's software engineering chief Craig Federighi said that the company's first move with any new feature is to work out how to bring it back to older devices as far as possible. But when it comes to Apple Intelligence, "This is the hardware that it takes... It's a pretty extraordinary thing to run models of this power on an iPhone," he added.
The iPhone 15 Pro models use the A17 Pro chip, which has a 16-core Neural Engine that's up to 2x faster than the A16 chip found in the iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus, performing nearly 35 trillion operations per second. Federighi hinted that RAM is also another aspect of the system that the new AI features require, so it is perhaps no coincidence that all the devices compatible with Apple Intelligence have at least 8GB of RAM.
Despite the cutoff, owners of older iPhones still have plenty to look forward to in Apple's upcoming software update: iOS 18 boasts several new features besides Apple Intelligence, and every iPhone that can run iOS 17 is compatible iOS 18. That includes the iPhone XR from 2018.
If you still want Apple Intelligence in your pocket but don't have an iPhone 15 Pro or iPhone 15 Pro Max, you may want to hold out for the iPhone 16 series, which is expected to launch when iOS 18 is released in the fall.
Article Link: Apple Explains iPhone 15 Pro Requirement for Apple Intelligence
With iOS 18, iPadOS 18, and macOS Sequoia, Apple is introducing a new personalized AI experience called Apple Intelligence that uses on-device, generative large-language models to enhance the user experience across iPhone, iPad, and Mac.
These new AI features require Apple's latest iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max models to work, while only Macs and iPads with M1 or later chips will support Apple Intelligence. Since the news came to light, many users have been asking what the reason is for the cut-off.
In The Talk Show Live From WWDC 2024, Daring Fireball's John Gruber put the question to Apple's AI/machine learning head John Giannandrea, marketing chief Greg Joswiak, and software engineering chief Craig Federighi, and this was the response.
Apple's software engineering chief Craig Federighi said that the company's first move with any new feature is to work out how to bring it back to older devices as far as possible. But when it comes to Apple Intelligence, "This is the hardware that it takes... It's a pretty extraordinary thing to run models of this power on an iPhone," he added.
The iPhone 15 Pro models use the A17 Pro chip, which has a 16-core Neural Engine that's up to 2x faster than the A16 chip found in the iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus, performing nearly 35 trillion operations per second. Federighi hinted that RAM is also another aspect of the system that the new AI features require, so it is perhaps no coincidence that all the devices compatible with Apple Intelligence have at least 8GB of RAM.
Despite the cutoff, owners of older iPhones still have plenty to look forward to in Apple's upcoming software update: iOS 18 boasts several new features besides Apple Intelligence, and every iPhone that can run iOS 17 is compatible iOS 18. That includes the iPhone XR from 2018.
If you still want Apple Intelligence in your pocket but don't have an iPhone 15 Pro or iPhone 15 Pro Max, you may want to hold out for the iPhone 16 series, which is expected to launch when iOS 18 is released in the fall.
Article Link: Apple Explains iPhone 15 Pro Requirement for Apple Intelligence
So for us that really don't care of want Apple Intelligence will there be an AI off switch in the setting app. I'd rather not chew up CPU cycles, battery, and heat up the phone more by switching off AI. I don't need my Apple devices monitoring everything I do so they can make generative emojis or some other stupid thing. I can scan my email or articles myself and give my brain some exercise. Make some AI that does my laundry and cleans my house so I have time to think and be more creative not my devices.
Apple uses Ai to make Siri smarter, so if you want a smarter Siri you need AI.
This is 100% about power consumption and avoiding another battery gate. It’s not RAM. It’s about not having consumers complain that Apple forced them to upgrade. Let’s not forget, older in-use devices already have degraded battery life, and the power efficiency jump from 5 to 3nm cannot be understated. iPads and Macs are known to be more stationary and upgraded less frequently, so there is less concern there.
So all future products will have at least 8GB of RAM, including the next iPad mini (seventh generation) and next generation iPhone SE, right? It would be a scummy move by Apple if they excluded any future products from having Apple Intelligence.
8GB is not enough for running a LLM on device. Apple is using swap as a workaround.
That's why it, barely, works on even the latest models.
16GB will become the "new" 8GB over the next year, simply to be able to offer AI without too many workarounds.
That's why it, barely, works on even the latest models.
16GB will become the "new" 8GB over the next year, simply to be able to offer AI without too many workarounds.
I have Siri turned off on all of my devices. The only time her voice is heard on my machines is for GPS/Maps. I’m good with that.
It'll be interesting to see how it runs on Intel when the artificial restrictions get patched out.