It needs the M1 to run up to 8 apps simultaneously, with multitasking and swap memory (giving every app running up to 16GB of memory), on up to two screens even supporting a 5K screen.
Stage Manager is not just an app switcher.
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Apple Explains Why Stage Manager is Limited to M1 iPads in New Statement
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Stage Manager is not just an app switcher.
We don't live in a world where we can throw away perfectly functioning tech because a company can't be bothered to support it anymore. Whether it's from 2 years ago or 10. Thing is, if apple doesn't want to release security patches etc or allow usable functionality, fine... But they should then be forced to release the source code, drivers, technical schematics for repairs etc and unlock the devices so that the devices can be continued to be supported so long as they function, so they don't have to be thrown away. Plenty of people just need a device to securely browse the web and make calls/messaging. That certainly goes for Android phones too who have an even worse support scheme than apple typically does
Well they could have just limited the amount of simultaneously running apps on A12X/Z devices and at least supported these. or just giving them external displaysupport for just max. 4 apps or so. Like i mean there surely has been this kind of limitation been done before with current devices vs older devices running the same OS. At least all they could be doing is optimizing it so much that it runs on older A12X/Z iPad Pros. They are so good in optimizing software, so why not doing here as well..
But people paid more money in 2020. There’s aren’t budget iPads we are taking about. People paid over £1,000 and less than 2 years later Apple are telling them that their devices are no more capable than the budget iPad.
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2018 IPP 11 & 12.9 here. I have been moving back to my MacBook Pro for the last several months, realizing that just about everything I do is faster on MacOS. I was excited to hear the rumors of improved multitasking on the iPad, thinking this might be the feature set to bring me back. Stage manager isn’t enough, and looks like a step backwards with respect to windows management in general. I’m not disappointed, and I won’t be upgrading my iPads (but will likely upgrade my nearly 10year old MacBook!).
There are two things which are good for multitasking applications
- More memory
- Fast file I/O for swap
The M1 is better at both.
From a CPU and GPU standpoint, everything from A10 Fusion is probably good enough for the kind of multitasking loads people are going to use on their iPads.
Apple did the exact same thing about the web camera in the Studio Display.
Then they issued a statement to The Verge.
Somewhat unusual since they have a set of usual suspects they use for this.
Ok, assuming this is the case, M1 MacBook can run way more than that with the same processor and also drive another 5K screen. This just doesn’t make sense unless Apple is limiting iOS so much back then they have to fight hard to get the stage manager works.
"Also - don't be rude. I am more than happy to pay more money for better performance, but Apple hasn't offered that as an option."
Buy an M1 iPad. I did because I wanted a better and larger screen and faster processor knowing more features would be coming. And for that I paid more money.
You can too. Just do it.
Or go with a competitor tablet that gives you better value and that Stage Manager feature you're unhappy about not getting because you chose to not pay more money and get a better iPad. Take some responsibility rather than blaming others for your decisions.
That's not really an assumption, those are Stage Manager's capabilities.
Still weird to see macOS able to do far more than iPadOS in terms of multitasking. Hardware limitation could be a factor but far from the full story.
But its not like-for-like.
Stage-manager on Mac is basically an app-switcher/window-manager because the OS handles swap and multitasking. Stage Manager on the iPad is all of those things combined into kind of a self-contained environment. Just like split screen has evolved over time, I expect Stage Manager to do the same, but right now it's the first beta preview of a new OS component.
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That's a terrible example. You're essentially saying that multitasking requires a massive CPU.
It doesn't. It's not the same as comparing two different games from two different eras.
But tell us: what is this magical limitation that prevents a PRO device from multitasking, especially considering that the A12Z was also used in the 2018 Mac Pro dev kit?
I detect sarcasm
They still do everything they did then. Technology moves on; two years is a long time in the tech world. I have a 2020 iPad and would love if all of iPadOS16 features were available but they aren't.
Is the A12Z Mini running iPadOS 16's Stage Manager, or is it running MacOS? They are different OSes built to do things differently.
That's even worse, considering MacOS simply doesn't have many of the OS limitations iPadOs does. So, it's giving you more advanced features on the same hardware.
Frankly, what you are saying is that not even the iPad Pro is seen by Apple as suitable enough as a "Pro" device. It's a failure that can't even do multitasking.
It does multitasking for up to 8 apps running simultaneously which is enough for almost anyone.
No. The "M1 Pro" does a piss app job of running at most 8 tasks. Even my underpowered 4-year-old PC easily runs 20-30 tasks without slowing down.
The A12Z is so bad it can't ever be made to multitask at all. Because Apple is simply incompetent to make it possible, or because the so-called "Pro" chip has a technical limitation that prevents it from ever multitasking.
Wouldn't you agree?
Up until now you thought suspended background apps meant multi-tasking so I'm not going to agree with what you think are facts about multitasking on an iPadOS or its performance on a beta 1 preview.
A piss app job? What does that even mean?
Are you really expecting a portable tablet to do application multitasking at the same level as a regular computer with much more RAM? And an OS designed from the ground up to multi-task many applications, and evolved over decades?
How about mobile phones? Another "piss app job"?
Trying to discredit the person talking to you is a very commonly used tactic, but it doesn't work because my "credentials" are irrelevant to the matter at hand.
And the matter at hand here is: according to your reasoning, you are telling us that it's somehow completely impossible bake this feature into the 2018 due to a hardware limitation, or due to a software limitation Apple CANNOT EVER get around.
Therefore, either Apple is incompetent to give users hardware that can do multitasking, making it UNDERPOWERED in comparison to other Pro options, or there is an inherent software limitation that cannot ever be overcome. They can't ever give you a scaled down version of multitasking because multitasking can't ever be scaled down.
Which is which? Why don't you tell us more about a detailed account on inherent limitations of the iPad, and why it's much inferior hardware compared to the competition that it can't ever do full multitasking?
Or are you just guessing Apple's reasons?
Depending upon where one goes on the forum, the iPads are all:
"Super powerful and underutilized by iPadOS"
or
"Can't even do this new multi-tasking thing without buying an all new flagship iPad!"
"Super powerful and underutilized by iPadOS"
or
"Can't even do this new multi-tasking thing without buying an all new flagship iPad!"
I mean a "piss poor job". It was a typo.
And yes, I am expecting full-blown apps on the latest iPad PRO.
If the A12Z can run MacOS, which is a full-blown system, then it can obviously do multitasking. It's not a glorified toy.
And the previous iPad has also proved itself in running full-blown apps. For example, we do have image editing at 8K or full-blown office suits on the iPad. It's not just wishful thinking.
Exactly. You get my point. It's baffling to see that the same people that agree the latest iPads are so powerful willbuy Apple's sorry excuse on multitasking without blinking.