ive had developers stop supporting apps in the past, or folding and taking their services with them; guess what I did? I started using a different app which did the same thing. If I’m using an old phone, with an old OS, I already assume that I won’t get the latest updates and apps will stop working. Forty years of computer use taught me this.Yeah sure, but there is nothing holding you back from booting your IRIX/OS9/OSX hardware up, and offering a newly written vintage Application for it, on your own website. In case of iOS/iPhone there is Apple acting as Gatekeeper with their golden handcuff aka. AppStore.
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Apple Faces Another iPhone Lawsuit Over 'Programmed Obsolescence'
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How things change. I remember various incarnations of Windows that slowed down as they grew older. Users were unhappy but struggled on until they changed machines. Now, when faced with a similar situation, a lawsuit is the answer. Sad times which will stifle innovation in favour of conformity and mediocrity.
If there is any exception, I’d say apple is that exception. They may get hit here and there, but long term business will not be deterred. You can argue that’s part of operating a normal business of “we can’t satisfy everyone”.
No, the last version of the the app that was coded to work with my OS; if I am running a really old OS, on a really old device, I don’t expect everything to work perfectly. Ive had iOS apps stop working as well, guess what I did...I used a competing app which did work or used the service in Safari. I also have many games which I purchased that are no longer available, guess what I did? Played a different game.
Im also playing an eight year old game on iOS 14 without any issues so it’s debatable whether these broken apps you’re referring to are just the devs blaming Apple.
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Sure, slightly screw EU customers in exchange for continuing to sell products in EU. I doubt Apple will pull out of EU market just because of this, assuming the investigation has determined programmed obsolescence is a thing.
Your 40 years of computer experience was totally different, you had the freedom to simply use something else.
Keep that nice tech time well in your memory, as I will, I pity the new generation aka. digital corporate slaves.
I argue, that the "reality distortion field" concept does not apple when a customer feels as if they have been screwed over by a company. It must be the masses that opened their wallets for this last quarter do not feel as if Apple has taken them for a ride, even though some may feel otherwise. And it's true about "we can't satisfy everyone".
Exactly, digital corporate slaves. Can’t agree more.
Distortion field or not, we agree to disagree. Time to move on.
Circa 2013, Apple provided a migration path to get devs to update their 32 bit code to 64 bit. Those that didn't feel like it needed to get done now have their apps languish in some never-never land. There technically was no reason for that to happen. So the requirement for the ios 14 sdk was a long time coming with devs getting plenty of notice starting in 2013 to update their apps to current standards.
The 32 bit SOC(A6?), is a long time ago and software and hardware moves on. Try to build a server farm with modern day functionality from an original Pentium circa 2000, if one doesn't think hardware marches on. Then there is the software support from ios 7 and upwards. Should Apple be required to support an operating system x years old. Even Microsoft sunsets their operating systems, albeit at a longer time period, but desktop class hardware lasts longer than mobile hardware from a useful functional life point of view.
In my own opinion, I disagree Apple is an exception. And while they may not have done everything 100% through the years, they seem to have satisfied more customers than annoyed more customers. Apple has hundreds of millions of customers, many shareholders and lots (tens of thousands, millions?) of observers that have no skin in the game. There is no way Apple will score a 100% at satisfaction across the board.
Well, these are totally different worlds, you can’t compare the usage of a server farm with tiny Smartphone Apps and Games. That’s what people don’t get, they should be required to support iOS up to 4-5 years, as they already do, all fine. But they should also be required to not block developers from supporting their Apps past that time. Any company who builds up virtual obstacles, just to enforce the death of a device should face a huge penalty. Fine Apple for making iOS feels slower, e.g by tweaking app animation speed, load times and battery, and enforce side loading/AppStore independence + anytime iOS rollback, then all will be fine.
Have these complainers ever bought an Android phone?
You rarely get OS updates.
That's planned obsolescence!
An iPhone etc dont just stop working.
They just dont get latest features that require faster processors.
five years support in tech is a long time.
You rarely get OS updates.
That's planned obsolescence!
An iPhone etc dont just stop working.
They just dont get latest features that require faster processors.
five years support in tech is a long time.
It's questionable as to whether Apple should be required to simultaneously support ios 9 through ios 14. The 32 bits chips are basically obsolete at this point so Apple supporting ios 12 and ios 14 on the 5s and up seems reasonable.
Devices are good for at least 10 years these days, even if the IOS version is not explicitly support. In the mobile processor world that's a long amount of time. I don't know if sideloading will ever be supported, but I see that as a way the entire ecosystem takes a dive. Horses for courses I guess.
Well, if the EU says “DO NOT PROVIDE PATCHES FOR OR UPGRADE CUSTOMERS HARDWARE AFTER 4 YEARS” for example, Apple would run against the wishes of the EU to do otherwise. They won’t pull out, but they ARE capable of putting in place a system that can abide by the EU’s demands.
Guess we have a new definition for “slaves” now, too. That are, of course “forced” do buy products and upgrade their systems.
I still use services on a PS3 (Netfix/Amazon Prime/Youtube), a device that came out in 2006 thanks to updates from Sony that are still happening to this day. Apple on the other hand provides support for 5-ish years.
Personally, I don't really care about my iPhone - its just a toy that runs a crippled OS. I would like someone to go after them for the current state of support for Macs though. A 14 year old PC could still run the latest Windows release and still be useable (with upgraded RAM), a 14 year old Mac - not so much.
Well, that’s down to the agreement between Apple and those devs, right? As has been said in another thread, jailbreaking isn’t required to install non-App Store software right now. So a developer currently has the ability to provide that level of support. They could, tomorrow, take their App off the App Store and go completely without Apple... and Apple doesn’t have to change a thing.
I understand you want to sound so bright and impress everyone in this blog but your argument is crap microchips and processors don’t age at exactly every 5 years this is planned obsolescence and i’ve been in the computer business since before you were standing on this earth so sit down boy!
When you’re setting up the phone, you choose to keep it up-to-date. You can also choose to NOT keep it up-to-date. There are lots of folks that would like to see more of that sort of handholding. I’m more in favor of the user being responsible for their choices.
If they keep putting out sketchy release after sketchy release like they have throughout 14, call it planned or poorly planned, it’s obsolescence nonetheless
If you want a user replaceable battery are you willing to settle for a thicker phone with worse battery life? The batteries in iphones have no casing. This saves space and allows for a thinner phone. Not only that but a battery that has a charge that lasts longer than replaceable ones. On top of that the batteries in there right now are super easy to puncture while trying to remove them. The amount of lawsuits from people trying to swap out the batteries (that are adhered to the body with tabs that tear easilly) and end up puncturing them is not worth it. Just imagine slipping with a screwdriver and the phone turning into something that would be banned in the geneva convention.
Older iOS versions didn’t let you choose bud
Correct. IOS versions not signed cannot be setup.
This.
Apple should not stop signing the last . version of the iOS.
You can download previous versions of MacOS/OSX from Apple directly, and you can go backward if you choose as long as your machine shipped with the OS or earlier