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Apple Facing Lawsuit After AirPods Allegedly Ruptured Child's Eardrums With Amber Alert
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Those of you against Amber Alerts, or any other alerts of life threatening issues, or a child in danger or kidnapped are idiots. As for the loudness issue you act like it's 165 db. It's not. It's loud to get your attention DUH!!!! If your kid or loved one was taken you would want every single person on earth to know ASAFP. A 10 sec loud tone to get those peoples attention is worth it. Or have you not been to a funeral of a kid taken by a lunatic? Or seen first hand neighborhood destroyed and people killed because the warning for a F3 tornado never came? Some of you are really sad and only want your life to matter.
Could 112dB cause permanent cochlear hearing loss and tinnitus, yes. Vertigo and TM perforations, highly unlikely.
Per OSHA you’d be permitted to be exposed to 112db for about 8.5min. NIOSH, which is more strict would say about 1min.
Reference SPL measurements are typically taken at 1 kHz sine at 1 meter. Signals attenuate over distance so:
165 dB at 1 meter is 195 dB at 3 centimeters.
Conversely, 134 dB at 1 meter is 165 dB at 3 centimeters.
That said, the first google result returning "165 dB" is not necessarily the authoritative be-all end-all answer. Any sustained noise over 85 dB can cause some degree of permanent hearing loss. Instant hearing damage can occur at 120 dB SPL (again the reference is 1 meter) which is 150 dB at 3 centimeters.
I work a lot with sound in my studio and while I use high impedance, over the ear headphones for monitoring, I mix with near field monitors and I keep them below 85 dB SPL at listening distance most of the time. I only exceed that level briefly if trying to spot some noise artifacts that need further cleanup. It is entirely plausible that the child suffered permanent hearing damage from these sudden and exceptionally loud alerts, and that in a short and sudden burst the earbuds are capable of generating an SPL louder than the listed maximum sustained output.
Protect your ears. Take frequent breaks from headphones, or listen to open air speakers whenever possible, protect your ears with 15 or 25 dB ear filters at concerts or playing loud instruments.
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Where did you get that BS? Sound at those levels do not lower or increases over such short distances. My truck that I competed with put out 156 db dead center of the cab at 38HZ. 4 feet from the sound chamber. In the sound chamber 156.2db. ( 1 ft from a wall of 8 12's.) With the doors open with mic aimed at truck 20 feet away 151.9.
A lot is being overlooked in your "I put a sub in a truck" example...
Not only is SPL a function of inverse square law (dB is a logarithmic scale; every +3dB is a doubling of wave power; +10dB is a doubling of perceptible loudness in the A-weighted spectrum), but you're using an example at nearly the bottom of the A-weighted range. The higher the frequency, the greater the wave power. So a reference signal at 1 kHz attenuates differently than a 38 Hz (read: barely perceptible) signal where frequency sensitivity in human hearing really starts to roll off.
If I subjected you to a 1 kHz tone at 156 dB at 1 meter, you hearing would be instantly, permanently damaged.
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Very intriguing pic..... From MotorBike.....
How loud is a dirt bike decibels?
According to one study carried in the state of California, the sound produced by a dirt bike should not exceed 96 decibels. This value denotes a sound that is more or less the same as a quiet roar and it is the most comfortable sound that is recommended for every dirt bike. Modified exhausts and engines can raise that sound level to over 130db or louder. A dirt bike can in some cases be as louder if not louder than a Harley Davidson running drag pipes!What ever happened to personal responsibility? The kid probably had the volume turned way up. And should have turned amber alerts off. Guess they see the dollar signs though which overrides all that. Thats the litigious society we live in now.
LolEvery band practice Ive ever had
Even if so, that's why there is a range.
Apple has let on that there is a limit, what that limit is, it is unknown to me. However, again, to reach high decibel levels to puncture ear drums, the AirPods do not carry enough power to blast.
Apparently someone is just looking for a quick bite.
I'll have you know that all Lawyers are fully baked prior to leaving school to 'cook' up their suits....
No. Pods aren't powerful enough ....UNLESS: you get a dumb enough jury.
There is absolutely ZERO reason why the alerts should be at a different volume than the current setting.
This needs to be fixed immediately.
It's at the same level of stupidity as the airlines raising the volume on the "safety announcements", the movie theaters attacking your eardrums with overly loud volume settings, or TV and YouTube higher volume for advertisement.
This needs to be fixed immediately.
It's at the same level of stupidity as the airlines raising the volume on the "safety announcements", the movie theaters attacking your eardrums with overly loud volume settings, or TV and YouTube higher volume for advertisement.
Unfortunately , you would be culled from the juror pool. But, read some of the comments preceding yours and you'll probably be able to pick out those who the lawyer would be able to state with satisfaction ' We're fine with juror #......'
I think too many people here have seen moves like Scream and Maximum Overdrive where Walkmans and headphone killed people. Got to love Hollywood Physics.
You mean death beams via headsets? Lol, that cracks me up on how impossible it is. Physics is physics and it can't be cheated.
Feel terrible for the child. Hope they get treatment and recovery of any hearing loss.
Clearly these “urgent alerts” have a lot of kinks that need to be worked out. Remember when people in Hawaii got a mass alert that they were about to get hit with a nuclear weapon? Pepperidge Farms remembers.
Clearly these “urgent alerts” have a lot of kinks that need to be worked out. Remember when people in Hawaii got a mass alert that they were about to get hit with a nuclear weapon? Pepperidge Farms remembers.
Oh man fair point on this one. I freaking hate that downward tone “TUt-Tut-tut”… it’s actually very loud plus the message is bad news (like when jogging or in the middle of a call or a movie).
As someone who is incredibly careful with my hearing because of having tinnitus caused by loud noises, my heart really goes out to that kid. That sucks. Something has got to be done about these amber alerts that override the system volume to play at max. I didn’t even know that the sound played at max through headphones. YIKES. I hope this lawsuit spurs some action before anyone else’s ears are hurt.
"ENT doctor"
"otolaryngologist"
why were you simple in one sentence, and bombastic in the next
This doesn't repair the kid's hearing. And this prevents you from getting important emergency alerts.
