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Apple is rumored to incorporate reverse charging into the 2019 models. However, I hope the battery is up to it. As far as the zoom, it's the high megapixel count that enables that. I'd be surprised is Apple could match that feature unless they have some trick up their sleeve. Of course one could always get a DSLR with a 100-500mm zoom. :confused:

Glad to hear that they will bring reverse charging sooner!

In terms of Zoom, the P30 Pro uses a 8MP Periscope Camera that does 5x Optical Zoom and then 10x Hybrid Zoom which mixes the 8MP Periscope and 40MP Main Camera with some AI sprinkled on top. I’m sure Apple can do it.

Problem with a DSLR is that I would not carry it around as much as my phone. Now that the capability for phones to zoom has seen a great leap, it would be nice if Apple incorporated the tech. Just a thought

Otherwise we could just cancel out cameras on phones in general and say just get a DSLR for anything and everything you want to photograph, which would be a step in the wrong direction.
 
Unfortunately the user experience of Apple seems to be on the decline. Form over function and killing or crippling good features seems to be what they do best.

Bolded: What quantitive data are you basing this on? I mean I can tell you from perspective from those who use technology from all competitors, Apple still is king in terms of what they offer with stability/fluidity with iOS in respect the iPhone, being that’s what we’re discussing here.

The iPhone has always brought a simplistic experience, but doesn’t necessarily allow the customization that others want. But what speaks milestones for iOS/the iPhone, is it doesn’t necessarily need ‘new features’ every year, it’s the continual updates/security and overall performance with A-series processors that trump pretty much anything else in the smart phone area.
 
Apple is rumored to incorporate reverse charging into the 2019 models. However, I hope the battery is up to it. As far as the zoom, it's the high megapixel count that enables that. I'd be surprised is Apple could match that feature unless they have some trick up their sleeve. Of course one could always get a DSLR with a 100-500mm zoom. :confused:
Reverse charging seems something like a gimmick that people can boast about having when telling friends but rarely or never using for the most. Yes I'm aware of airpods having a wireless charging case.

I'd even prefer a plastic/aluminium back on my phone rather than glass and forgo wireless charging. Make my device less fragile with a larger battery please.
 
Reverse charging seems something like a gimmick that people can boast about having when telling friends but rarely or never using for the most. Yes I'm aware of airpods having a wireless charging case.

I'd even prefer a plastic/aluminium back on my phone rather than glass and forgo wireless charging. Make my device less fragile with a larger battery please.

Agree plus it won’t cost anywhere near it does to replace a glass back case if it breaks! One thing that annoys me with Apple and glass backs, the price they make you make to fix a broken one, even if you have Apple care they’ve still made you pay a couple of hundred to fix it!
I’d be up for the metal backs like the 6, 6S and 7..
 
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Reverse charging seems something like a gimmick that people can boast about having when telling friends but rarely or never using for the most. Yes I'm aware of airpods having a wireless charging case.

I'd even prefer a plastic/aluminium back on my phone rather than glass and forgo wireless charging. Make my device less fragile with a larger battery please.

I barely use Wireless Charging, but Reverse Charging is amazing, I tend to forget to charge my BT Headphones, so every now and then I would plug the head phones into the phone, give them about 15mins of charge and that would last 2-3 hours, longer than I need for a gym session, so it was cool to just plug to my phone while changing and BOOM, all ready for when I start my session.

Anyway we’ll see what Apple comes up with when they introduce the feature.
 
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Apple used to be a leader an innovator when it came to iPhones but now it seems that Apple cares more about services for the iPhone. Really hate to see Samsung and others make more enticing phones
If Apple gives people new styles of iPhones people would upgrade quicker
Apple is the only innovator of iPhones so they are at the peak of their efforts of the Current design. It is what it is.
Apple cares about money and surviving in a cutthroat industry, as does essentially every, single business on the planet that wants to continue to be able to do business.
And when release cycles are offset between different manufacturers, like they are with the competitors, whoever releases the "newest" tech, has the newest enticing tech.
IF... that tech entices you, then that is the purchase that could be better for you, the one that excites you.
Not the one that does not.
 
I barely use Wireless Charging, but Reverse Charging is amazing, I tend to forget to charge my BT Headphones, so every now and then I would plug the head phones into the phone, give them about 15mins of charge and that would last 2-3 hours, longer than I need for a gym session, so it was cool to just plug to my phone while changing and BOOM, all ready for when I start my session.

Anyway we’ll see what Apple comes up with when they introduce the feature.

Think I would use it for air pods for sure. Would use it for Apple Watch too when on Hoilday for example
 
Bolded: What quantitive data are you basing this on? I mean I can tell you from perspective from those who use technology from all competitors, Apple still is king in terms of what they offer with stability/fluidity with iOS in respect the iPhone, being that’s what we’re discussing here.

The iPhone has always brought a simplistic experience, but doesn’t necessarily allow the customization that others want. But what speaks milestones for iOS/the iPhone, is it doesn’t necessarily need ‘new features’ every year, it’s the continual updates/security and overall performance with A-series processors that trump pretty much anything else in the smart phone area.
Simple. I’ll give you some examples of the declining user experience from a hardware and software point of view. Not just for IOS but Apple devices and software in general.

Take a look at the first unibody MacBook of the late 2008. User accessible back door, opens without any tool by pressing a latch allowing a) replace the battery without a tool, b) upgrade the ram, c) replace/upgrade the hdd/ssd. MagSafe, SD card slot, 2 USB ports. And how user accessible any modern MacBook? None zilch. Apple took all those away. Why? To make it thinner. Form over function. Now you need dongles to add all those missing ports.

Take a look at the 2012 Mac Mini for example. How easy it was to service and upgrade and look at the current Mac Mini now. Well, we are lucky that we still have a Mac Mini to be honest.

Look at Airport modems and Time Capsule. Gone, killed and buried. Why? Not profitable. Never mind people loved them. I still use my Airport Expresses all over the house to Airplay music with their digital output port. No other modem that I know to fulfil that function to my knowledge.

Look at the ATV3 vs ATV4. It was $100 with toslink digital audio and now its $200 without the toslink port but its 4K and you can load Apps. My ATV3s are still functioning and serve me well.

Ask people how much they like the new butterfly keyboard compared to the old scissor mechanism.

Speaking of software; What happened to Aperture? Similarly every iteration of the MacOS Server has been crippled and rendered less functional. It’s just a matter of time Apple will kill that too.

Airport Utility was crippled and rendered less functional with the new version and now its irrelevant because the Airports are dead anyway.

Similarly the Disk Utility was more powerful and functional before.

iMovie 9 still performs better than iMovie 10 and 10 is not backwardly compatible.

iTunes has been chopped and reduced in functionality and finally the ability to back ipa files and being able to restore Apps from your own backup library has been deleted.

Back To My Mac is killed. Which never worked all that great but it could have been improved rather than killed.

As for the IOS, it’s been a decade since it came to life and we still have no means to fully interact with peripherals like flash disks, external drives, mice etc. No multi user accounts, no floating and scalable windows for multitasking. Most of these are available on a Samsung Android by the way.

Now with the implementation of the so called “security” measures users cannot even use a third party shop to replace the battery on an iPhone unless they ignore the unavailability of the health data for the battery.

The T2 chip pretty much makes all non-Apple repairs impossible on the new Macs and in most cases demands the entire logic board to be replaced for a minor problem like a keyboard failure. Great user experience right?

I can go on and on but I think this is enough for the quantitative data that you were asking for the declining user experience, which is a combination of hardware and software, and in my opinion Apple is continually giving me less and less of that every year.
 
Think I would use it for air pods for sure. Would use it for Apple Watch too when on Hoilday for example

Absolutely this. I was actually thinking the other day how awesome it would be to be able to charge my Apple Watch with my iPhone.

I have a upcoming business trip, flying out tomorrow afternoon and I have packed my Apple Watch Charger, BT Headphones Charger and iPhone Charger, which wouldn’t really be necessary if the iPhone could just charge them up. Also busy charging up my Powerbank, lol, but I do that just in case of power cuts.
 
My god people, why do you even bother.....troll thread big time.
 
How so? I really like the look and feel of the new Note, but if they are terrible overall I’d like to know how. I’ve used every iPhone since waiting in line for the very first one. So if I am going to consider a switch I’d like your expert opinion...
From a strictly hardware quality standpoint, there's three manufacturers I look to for Android: Samsung, Huawei, and OnePlus. They have great quality. The rest? Not great. There are hundreds of not great options.

Let's just say, on iPhone you take for granted how strong the execution is. The biggest example is the backlight. iPhone gets the auto-backlight adjustment perfectly. Most android devices I have used do not execute that one (again, Samsung might be the only one that gets it right).

I take exception to the idea that iPhone has simply stopped innovating. The fact is iPhone is executing at the highest level in the industry on but the hardware and software fronts. Even when you talk about places the iPhone falls short on (the camera for photos) the execution around it is still great.
 
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My 2 cents:
Purchased Samsung Note8 (Because at the time Apple didn't have OLED option)
Didn't purchase iphone X because of the notch.

Fast forward to 2019:
Buying the iphone 11 (or what ever its gonna be called)
a) Hole-punch displays look waaayy worse imo than the notch.
b) Hole-punch on the display only servers the camera. Apple does have genuine reason for the notch
c) A12 is comparable to Note10 performance. (A12 is faster in CPU speeds). A13 is going to only improve that, so Apple is 1 year ahead on CPU performance.
d) Software updates on Apple makes sense. See any other manufacturer than google: For example Samsung; IF i'm lucky i get security patches on my note8 month after google releases them, and for the "big" android updates? Yeah, good luck waiting year for it.

Kind of offtopic already but:
e) ****ing bloatware on Android phones. (I had to root my Note8 in order to uninstall Facebook)
f) Privacy issues.

Even if Apple would be behind in terms of cpu-performance (GPU isn't important for me, i don't game on my phone). All of the other features on iphone fastly outperform any other Android flagship phone on the market. That's why i'm ditching Android for iOS. From Galaxy II onward i have been Android users so.... I don't consider myself Apple fanboy.
 
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I don't see the point of this thread. It's an Apple forum, the response is always going to have a huge amount of bias. At the end of the day modern smartphones are all the same, it's like arguing over which company makes the best toaster, pointless. In case you haven't noticed all smartphones are heading to the same outcome, it's an all display phone with a variety of camera lenses and advanced Ai software.
 
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I have a feeling Apple will implement this in the iPhone 2020

Always On Display
USB-C port
Under the display finger sensor
Better modem
 
I disagree. Besides crowd pleasing “features” such as screens that roll off the edge of the phone, I don’t see Apple as being behind anything. Still the best combination of hardware, software and services. For me.
 
I don't see the point of this thread. It's an Apple forum, the response is always going to have a huge amount of bias. At the end of the day modern smartphones are all the same, it's like arguing over which company makes the best toaster, pointless. In case you haven't noticed all smartphones are heading to the same outcome, it's an all display phone with a variety of camera lenses and advanced Ai software.
And a car is vehicle to move people with 4 tires, brakes, steering wheel and engine.
 
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Wifi 6... 5G... Android, Windows... they've almost always been first to adopting new technologies. That's not Apple's mantra and never has been.

It's been about adopting a technology with a promising future and doing it right.

It's not about doing it first.

 
I usually switch to android once every 3-4 years just to try something different.
With the 5G iPhone a year away, I thought now would be a good time to switch. I read a bunch of reviews and did my research. Oneplus 7 Pro ticked all the boxes!!
What an awful experience that was, luckily Amazon are good with returns.
The phone is a mess, so many simple things that you take for granted as awful on the OP7. An example is the gestures, like they were made on windows 98. Choppy as hell and dont always work.
 
Fear mongering at its finest. Lol

What exactly is wrong with the iPhone hardware? It’s a thin beautiful slab with a buttery smooth interface. What am I missing?
 
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Here are few:
Display
Cameras
Sound : Dac + Amp
Design
Un display ultrasonic FP scanner
Modems: lte, 5G and wifi 6
Gpu (imo snapdragon adrenos from 845 and 855 are better)
Dynamic Vibration System - see sony xperia 1
Audio jack
Etc
[doublepost=1565949772][/doublepost]Usb C 3.1 with 5Gbps speed and Hdmi support
[doublepost=1565949814][/doublepost]And that's only hardware side ...
Are you kidding me?
The Samsung Note 10 has no jackass too
Don't even mention they offer 12gb ram to match Apple 4gb ram??
Fingerprinter sensor? Dude, the face recognization on apple is phenomenal '
 
Fear mongering at its finest. Lol

What exactly is wrong with the iPhone hardware? It’s a thin beautiful slab with a buttery smooth interface. What am I missing?
The interface is spectacular considering how well it performs against displays with higher refresh rates. I wonder what a high refresh iPhone would look like.
 
The biggest improvement we've seen in smartphone camera tech is the computational element to it. Smart HDR (and expanded dynamic range in video), along with Pixels' night shot matter a lot more than the periscope lens. The iPhone and Pixel remain the best smartphone cameras, and if you include video (which I do), overall, the iPhone is still the best available.

Don't get me wrong, I'd like to see a longer telephoto focal length on the iPhone, but the longer the focal length, the smaller the aperture and sensor will have to be (assuming the size of the lens remains the same). This means that you can really only use it in good light (unless you use a tripod). And don't let the marketing fool you... 10x "hybrid" zoom just means 5x cropped.

In terms of Zoom, the P30 Pro uses a 8MP Periscope Camera that does 5x Optical Zoom and then 10x Hybrid Zoom which mixes the 8MP Periscope and 40MP Main Camera with some AI sprinkled on top. I’m sure Apple can do it.
 
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I would buy a note 10+ if it could run IOS.

If Jobs was still CEO iphone would still be dominant, and the ipad would be on its way to fully replacing laptops by now as he predicted.

The only decent product Apple have made in the last 8 years are the airpods.
 
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The biggest improvement we've seen in smartphone camera tech is the computational element to it. Smart HDR (and expanded dynamic range in video), along with Pixels' night shot matter a lot more than the periscope lens. The iPhone and Pixel remain the best smartphone cameras, and if you include video (which I do), overall, the iPhone is still the best available.

Don't get me wrong, I'd like to see a longer telephoto focal length on the iPhone, but the longer the focal length, the smaller the aperture and sensor will have to be (assuming the size of the lens remains the same). This means that you can really only use it in good light (unless you use a tripod). And don't let the marketing fool you... 10x "hybrid" zoom just means 5x cropped.

Considering the confines of a mobile, there will always be some compromise.
 
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