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Apple Falls From 1st to 17th Spot in 'World's Most Innovative Company' Rankings
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Most of apples latest innovations are hidden ones like processor designs.
Most people don’t care about what drives their shiny new Apple toy.
I like the Apple products I have, but my next desktop will be a PC as their computer line is nothing special.
I would also like to see Apple do something bold like Samsung did with their new fold phone. It’s ok to fail, but at least try something bold and new.
Most people don’t care about what drives their shiny new Apple toy.
I like the Apple products I have, but my next desktop will be a PC as their computer line is nothing special.
I would also like to see Apple do something bold like Samsung did with their new fold phone. It’s ok to fail, but at least try something bold and new.
Yeah, it's almost like Putin don't like Apple, so they have these bots programmed. I mean, I can certainly imagine someone not liking Apple, not liking Google, Facebook, anything. But I don't understand why they like so much to come in and crap on Apple with the same old same old comments. We seem to have developed a cultural type, the troll, who loves to cruise in places where people don't agree with them and jeer sarcastically. They never seem to do anything themselves. I mean, if you like Android phones, there are lots of places you can go to find out the features of a new one, or the problems with another. Infinite variety. Everything to talk about. Design, the future of communications, what the Internet of the 2100s will be like, what is the future of man? The response from the trolls would be the same.
Is not it like putting a lipstick on a pig? What's the innovation here? There have been plenty of ECG solutions (including compact ones) available for years and decades. Adding the most basic one to a watch perhaps has some convenience utility to it but that's about it. It's not like the watch is performing ECG constantly. There are plenty of portable ECG monitors on Amazon (here is one).
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But Apple doesn't like to put out a product that's obviously years away from market-readiness.
Sure, their first-gen products do have some flaws usually, like the first Watch being a little underpowered from the start (still I use mine to this day), but it's never something that makes them feel like a beta product.
That Samsung Galaxy Fold basically has "prototype" written all over it.
If Apple were to release something unfinished like that, they'd be given all crap in the world for that and rightfully so.
Dynamic real-time acoustical beamforming, using multiple speakers (for room equalization) and multiple microphones (for spatially locating verbal commands and rejecting interference) via signal processing techniques, in a relatively low-cost consumer desktop speaker.
The question stil is, until the Apple Watch added a watch based EKG, was a watch based EKG a known thing, or done in such a way?
Remember, Innovation is NOT the same thing as invention. and I think that may be where you're hung up on.
Invention, being doing something for the first time ever. Apple did NOT invent EKG.
Innovation being doing something new, or in a new method, or a new way not done before, but to accomplish something that already generally exists. Yes, EKG's existed before Apple (And anyone who claims they did invent it is drinking some serious KoolAid). but as far as I know (and always open to being wrong), nobody has yet included an EKG in a watch until now. that would be innovative use of EKG technology in a new form factor.
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I'm not anti-Apple. I think we just want Apple to be better. Steve pushed perfection.
This feature is not available outside the US - for most of the world there is no ECG-watch innovation, it is just bloatware - not existent.
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GeoLocation doesn't suddenly negate technological innovation.
I'm not disputing that the limitations based on geography suck. Being in Canada, we don't get a lot of feature parity with the US despite sharing the continent and the worlds largest undefended border.
But just because EKG function isn't available here, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. this is just an arbitrary goalpost you're using to try and discount something Apple did.
Must say when iPhones first started, $3-$400 for a phone was crazy, but we paid and one thing really hasn’t changed.
They break, so as we are now over $1000 for a phone.
Bigger, lots more stuff inside, but they still break.
And break fairly easy.
As we move into a more service oriented way, hopefully they Make the iPhone and iPad less prone to damage. And hook u into a new phone by a better service.
They break, so as we are now over $1000 for a phone.
Bigger, lots more stuff inside, but they still break.
And break fairly easy.
As we move into a more service oriented way, hopefully they Make the iPhone and iPad less prone to damage. And hook u into a new phone by a better service.
Sorry but which one of the your listed things are really innovative? Something new doesn’t mean automatically innovative
Innovation like more ram? At least name something that’s fits you personal definitions of innovative so we can have a discussion on it.
I haven’t seen innovation out of Samsung. More, next iteration, etc is not innovation
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This article comes as no surprise. Apple have been resting on their laurels for quite some time now.
You attached an image of a Merriam-Webster entry with two definitions; then you cited the definition that was labeled "archaic".
Oooo - me first! Put back the old scissors keyboard on their laptops. That would show innovation in realizing which things you already had that were awesome and not being afraid to go back to them just because they're in the past. Call it an innovation in their business model.
Great point. I think it is because dumping on someone else takes a whole lot less guts than making an assertive statement themselves. Because if they assert something positive themselves, someone else may dump on that; and they are too insecure to stand up to that. So they just dump and run. It's cowardly, isn't it?
Reading MacRumors to find "Fast Company" still existed...
Some knew this would happen after Jobs departed. He was the supremo beta tester. Users show their frustrations.
What else after a phone. Eureka... everybody wears a watch... a niche, so far.
Now what - Me-Too services for the average user.
Even if they restore the Macs, it will only be a blip on earnings. But, it will do wonders to users' faith and confidence in the future of Apple, and be more patient about that invisible pipeline.
Some knew this would happen after Jobs departed. He was the supremo beta tester. Users show their frustrations.
What else after a phone. Eureka... everybody wears a watch... a niche, so far.
Now what - Me-Too services for the average user.
Even if they restore the Macs, it will only be a blip on earnings. But, it will do wonders to users' faith and confidence in the future of Apple, and be more patient about that invisible pipeline.
I believe his point is that the term has become useless and virtually meaningless. Not, as you suggest, that only he understands what it means.