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I don't mock LTD, I side with him; we're among the few true Apple fans in an Apple forum infested by Windows and Android fanboys.

No, you're one of the few true Apple fanboys in an Apple forum infested by people who like Apple but can readily admit when they're wrong. You only see it in black and white. Apple can do no wrong and Android can do no right. But it's not like that. I can still be a fan of their products but criticize them for genuine flaws in those products. It doesn't make me a Windows or Android fanboy.
 
I don't mock LTD, I side with him; we're among the few true Apple fans in an Apple forum infested by Windows and Android fanboys.
Lol,

LTD is so extreme, if you put a windows copy next to him. He would will into existence with his magical reality distortion powers, a chainsaw. To destroy the disc, and you for putting it near his presence.
 
How big do you want? 4GB? 8GB? 16GB? 32GB? :cool:

Like I said, assets don't have to be on the 512MB of memory, nullifying your complaint. ;)

I'm not talking about assets, I'm talking simply about app size. There needs to be enough memory to allow you the choice to run any app you want. Future plans are not today's reality. I was very interested in the Nexus One until I saw this limitation. This is game over for me. Maybe in the future they can build a phone that can compete in this area with the iPhone, but it's not here today.
 
Ho. Lee. ****.
Not sure how many will know what I'm talking about, but for anyone who has seen the GameStop commercials where the bunny is going around collecting coins. Your response made me think of the one where he goes around collecting coins one at a time, and then falls underground to find an entire cavern of coins. He said the same thing, lol.

You were quite lucky. I do believe a 5970 would manage to fit in my P180 mini. :D
Yeah, I was. He had asked me what I thought he should do (he was contemplating getting a larger case, but really wanted to continue using the one he had), so I quickly measured to see whether my case could hold it, and once I saw that it could, offered to swap with him.

Wow, it'd fit in the P180 mini too? That's rather impressive.
 
This means Apple is actually threatened by HTC. Think about it the Nexus One is their first true competitor. Why?
1) Android, and it's gaining momentum.
2)Flash is imminent, which Apple deigns beneath it but nevertheless is an extremely popular web app.
3)HTC, the actual manufacturer of the Nexus, has actually been good and variant phones lately (HD2, Eris, Legend, whatever).
In any case Apple is not about to go out of their way to fry some small fish, which says a a lot about HTC and android overall.
"If resistance appears, squash it while it's growing." But I bet this is only the beginning.
 
Heroic Fail.

Once again, you have NO IDEA of what you're talking about. :mad:

Just....stop.

I have no idea what you are referring to but I'll provide the links.

The history of HTC.

The important part :

"HTC launched the HTC Touch™ in June 2007 as the result of extensive R&D and the conviction that fingertip control would enable more intuitive navigation. The groundbreaking HTC Touch™ is equipped with TouchFLO™ so that consumers just sweep their finger across the screen to get access to the most commonly used content, contacts and features in a simple finger flick."

This was AFTER the January 2007 introduction of the iPhone.
 
1) I have clarified my response as follows:



2) I would always trust a lawyer over a website designed for popular use. Such sites try to put the material in a way that is accessible to, well, the general population (obviously) and so often phrase things in ways which leave out important or subtle details.

They also phrase things in such a way to get you to do it the way they want. For example, saying "there's no provision under the law for X" and "X is not a substitute for registering" could easily be technically correct ways of leaving out other options people have and to encourage, well, giving cash to the copyright office! In this case, that's not really what's going on, as, as I said in my update, mailing himself things doesn't often do a person any good.

The point is that a lwayer knows whats really going on and I'll trust one any day over a vague FAQ on a government website designed for everyday folks.

3) I am respectful of you. Please be respectful of me, as well as others. It doesn't bother me to be called and idiot, but you could cause somebody else some real negativity in his or her life. Nobody deserves that.

Not quite sure what the argument is about, but I can confirm that copyright is created when you fix a creative work in a tangible medium, and all that mailing-it-to-yourself thing is about is to try and prove the date. Registration is required in order to obtain monetary damage awards in a lawsuit (and it's a much better way to prove date, too).
 
Ho. Lee. ****.



They are flaws, but you'd never see it that way.

Unhappy? Scared? Windows SuperSite is always there for you.

Once more, go check the mobile market BEFORE Apple came. Done? Now check the same market AFTER Apple launched the iPhone. It's absolutely CLEAR that pretty much everyone else copied Apple's R&D and IPR.

As SJ said, it's about time to do something about it, considering Apple's extensive patent portfolio and the strong case in their favor (at least as strong as Apple's EULA against Psystar).

Not doing so would be in breach of their fiduciary duties to shareholders...and no, we're not talking about OS "look and feel" lawsuits this time...:rolleyes:
 
But I typically treat them like I treat LTD's post: I ignore them.

I'm all for praising Apple when they deserve praise, and being critical when they deserve to be criticized, but apparently it's faux pas to be that way around here. :/

I think there usually more rabidly negative posts here than blindly positive. I don't have any problems with criticisms of Apple. They don't do everything right by any means, but when random people post complaints about corporate greed, what they think is a fair profit margin, patent law, what they believe Apple should be allowed to do, and how not having Flash on the iPad is equivalent to killing someone's dog, it gets a bit ridiculous.
 
I have no idea what you are referring to but I'll provide the links.

The history of HTC.

The important part :

"HTC launched the HTC Touch™ in June 2007 as the result of extensive R&D and the conviction that fingertip control would enable more intuitive navigation. The groundbreaking HTC Touch™ is equipped with TouchFLO™ so that consumers just sweep their finger across the screen to get access to the most commonly used content, contacts and features in a simple finger flick."

This was AFTER the January 2007 introduction of the iPhone.
DId you miss the post showing that HTC had a powerpoint slide showing off an early model of the HTC Touch in December?

Yeah you probably did i suppose.

Unhappy? Scared? Windows SuperSite is always there for you.

Once more, go check the mobile market BEFORE Apple came. Done? Now check the same market AFTER Apple launched the iPhone. It's absolutely CLEAR that pretty much everyone else copied Apple's R&D and IPR.

As SJ said, it's about time to do something about it, considering Apple's extensive patent portfolio and the strong case in their favor (at least as strong as Apple's EULA against Psystar).

Not doing so would be in breach of their fiduciary duties to shareholders...and no, we're not talking about OS "look and feel" lawsuits this time...:rolleyes:
Do you believe that Apple didn't infringe on patents themselves?

Cause You should look at Palm's portfolio of patents.
 
Yeah, I was. He had asked me what I thought he should do (he was contemplating getting a larger case, but really wanted to continue using the one he had), so I quickly measured to see whether my case could hold it, and once I saw that it could, offered to swap with him.

Wow, it'd fit in the P180 mini too? That's rather impressive.
EATX cases are nearly a must for those dual GPU monsters. If I take the intake fan out of my P180 mini I should be able to fit a 14" card with enough clearance for PCIe supplemental power.

I think there usually more rabidly negative posts here than blindly positive. I don't have any problems with criticisms of Apple. They don't do everything right by any means, but when random people post complaints about corporate greed, what they think is a fair profit margin, patent law, what they believe Apple should be allowed to do, and how not having Flash on the iPad is equivalent to killing someone's dog, it gets a bit ridiculous.
Keep reading the thread. You were only on the precipice.
 
I have no idea what you are referring to but I'll provide the links.

The history of HTC.

The important part :

"HTC launched the HTC Touch™ in June 2007 as the result of extensive R&D and the conviction that fingertip control would enable more intuitive navigation. The groundbreaking HTC Touch™ is equipped with TouchFLO™ so that consumers just sweep their finger across the screen to get access to the most commonly used content, contacts and features in a simple finger flick."

This was AFTER the January 2007 introduction of the iPhone.

You missed something. :rolleyes: Would you like to try again? (Y/N)
 
I'm not talking about assets, I'm talking simply about app size. There needs to be enough memory to allow you the choice to run any app you want. Future plans are not today's reality. I was very interested in the Nexus One until I saw this limitation. This is game over for me. Maybe in the future they can build a phone that can compete in this area with the iPhone, but it's not here today.
Well an iPhone it is for you then. Enjoy! :apple:
 
I have no idea what you are referring to but I'll provide the links.

The history of HTC.

The important part :

"HTC launched the HTC Touch™ in June 2007 as the result of extensive R&D and the conviction that fingertip control would enable more intuitive navigation. The groundbreaking HTC Touch™ is equipped with TouchFLO™ so that consumers just sweep their finger across the screen to get access to the most commonly used content, contacts and features in a simple finger flick."

This was AFTER the January 2007 introduction of the iPhone.

It went on sale in June 2007. The first prototype of the Touch, called the Elf, was revealed in December 2006. I may have to double check my calendar, but I'm pretty sure December 2006 came before January 2007.

Once more, go check the mobile market BEFORE Apple came. Done? Now check the same market AFTER Apple launched the iPhone. It's absolutely CLEAR that pretty much everyone else copied Apple's R&D and IPR.

The iPhone has nothing to do with it. Technology has improved. Mobile CPUs have gotten faster. Components have gotten cheaper. Batteries are lasting longer. Networks have gotten faster. All of these advances which have come in the past few years, advances which have nothing to do with Apple, have allowed companies to be more innovative and make more than just basic smartphones of 2005.
 
advances which have nothing to do with Apple, have allowed companies to be more innovative and make more than just basic smartphones of 2005.

Again, mobile sector before iPhone . . . mobile sector after iPhone. Huge difference, and quite suddenly too. Everyone and their dog noticed this.

But I'm sure it was all a coincidence . . . LOL

Had Apple not introduced the iPhone, these unimaginative, half-asleep also-rans might never have introduced this tech in due course, never mind in such a great package. Maybe in 2015!
 
The user base is its own worst enemy.

I always laugh when I read BS like that...if you want to talk about user base support, ask me again in 1995...I was using Apple products even when they were at their most untrendy, while most others were proclaiming the company dead...

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So no need to come with purported aphorisms, Eidorian...I criticize Apple whenever necessary; the problem is, Apple hasn't deserved much criticism at least in the last 10 years; it's not my fault. :rolleyes:
 
Because you have no facts.

Fact Andriod 2.1 Nexus one

Multitasking with 3rd party apps and native
Notification system with in app notifications
Google Maps Navi FREE with starring, street vieew etc. intergrated
5 mp camera with flash(This is the next logical evo in iphone sans flash)
Notification trackball
Location based functionality with native and 3rd party(background processes)
Noise Cancelling mic
Gmail app with labels/starring
App Store that allows competition(like functionality) with native apps on android
Non-proprietary connections to charger or sync(micro usb)
AMOLED Screen(Iphone may get similar is next release)
3.7in screen

Apple Iphone OS Fact

Better Marketing
Bigger app store
More dev support
Nice Cut and Paste implementation(and available in all native apps)



Hmmm do you care to dispute?
 
The iPhone has nothing to do with it. Technology has improved. Mobile CPUs have gotten faster. Components have gotten cheaper. Batteries are lasting longer. Networks have gotten faster. All of these advances which have come in the past few years, advances which have nothing to do with Apple, have allowed companies to be more innovative and make more than just basic smartphones of 2005.
On a side note the Alienware M11x at $799 stock takes a similar path as well. You'd expect a notebook with a powerful GPU to be massive and expensive.

We're not living in the Mobile Pentium 4 days. Intel has dirt cheap mobile CULV with 10W TDPs. Slap an nVidia 335M in there and you have something amazing for the 11.6" package. It isn't an Atom netbook and it isn't an Acer with Intel 4500M HD graphics.

A lot has changed in the past 5 years in many fields. Lower power and higher performance is a much greater goal than it was. Core 2 and another smaller GPU revolution in late 2007 are where I really start to notice the culmination of these trends.

It's very entertaining though. As always, it's fun seeing where it goes.
It has sadly gotten old for me. We're still missing a few actors though.

I always laugh when I read BS like that...if you want to talk about user base support, ask me again in 1995...I was using Apple products even when they were at their most untrendy, while most others were proclaiming the company dead...

So no need to come with purported aphorisms, Eidorian...I criticize Apple whenever necessary; the problem is, Apple hasn't deserved much criticism at least in the last 10 years; it's not my fault. :rolleyes:
Please never change. I'd be terrified to know what would be able to do so.

All of this has happened before, all of this will happen again.
 
It went on sale in June 2007. The first prototype of the Touch, called the Elf, was revealed in December 2006. I may have to double check my calendar, but I'm pretty sure December 2006 came before January 2007.

Does the Apple touchscreen patent filed in 2004 affect this?
 
Good. Here we go.

"We've patented the hell out of this thing"

Finally, Apple wakes up and takes action.
I don't think you understand how this all works. You WAIT until there's money to go after.

If David Bowie and Queen would've jumped all over Vanilla Ice the minute they realized "Under Pressure" had been sampled for the new rap sensation "Ice Ice Baby", they would've got next to nothing... Patience on their part finally netted the five artists $4M (a nice some of money now, but even greater 20 years ago.)

Just a matter of time. I knew there'd be fire and retribution. :D

This is NOT good. A market in which the iPhone is the only option is a horrible market indeed.

Having a choice is a good thing. If Apple manages to destroy HTC, Android, Palm, etc... we'll no longer have a choice. And that's a horrible situation. - Z
Ok -- you're looking out for YOU. Fine. But what about Apple? They can't look out for themselves? If they are indeed being ripped off, then they have the right to fight back. Steve Jobs said it best "We think competition is healthy, but competitors should create their own original technology, not steal ours." -- What about that is unfair to YOU or to ANYONE else?

If the other cell phone companies want to compete, let them figure out ways to do it UNIQUELY. What Apple has done with the iPhone set it completely apart from what what cell phones used to be. It was only 2.5 years ago, .... don't you remember what you used to make calls with before the iPhone? Apple changed everything... they deserve whatever success they have -- and they deserve to not be ripped off at every turn.
 
Again, mobile sector before iPhone . . . mobile sector after iPhone. Big difference. Everyone and their dog noticed this.

But I'm sure it was all a coincidence . . . LOL

Had Apple not introduced the iPhone, these unimaginative, half-asleep also-rans might never have introduced this tech in due course, never mind in such a great package. Maybe in 2015!

There would be no Iphone without the mobile sector advances BEFORE the iphone...

Nokia, Palm, Sony and Samsung ALL had touchscreen devices before apple...period.
 
Funny how all the Nokia-tards were labelling Apple as the bully in the playground when Nokias patents were apparently getting infringed, but now it's Apples turn to play "patent hardball" and every Nokia, MS & Google-tard on the Net has arrived to declare that Apple are once again the bully in the playground for protecting its patents against HTC.

Seems to me that whatever goes down a deluge of tards are always going to give Apple a kick to the nuts and just re-arrange their position to suit their particular Apple-beating posture of the moment.
 
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