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Apple Files Lawsuit Against HTC Over Alleged iPhone Patent Infringement

*LTD* said:
You seem to be in the minority. However, you're still free to think whatever you like about the iPhone OS.

The industry has christened the iPhone OS the ideal. There will be those few that won't agree with that. And there are also people who sill miss DOS.

The combination of hardware + software on the iPhone is unparalleled. Apple's found the sweet-spot and continues to enjoy the fruits of it.
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I will agree in 2007 the iphone OS was amazing and blew me away. I (for reasons AT&T) I have a Pre on Sprint and for a 'phone' my Pre is far and away a better experience. Now you can pry my ipod touch out of my cold dead hands because it is a great PMP/casual game device, but I can say right now I have no desire for an iphone.
 
Darwing said:
seriously how are you still on forums without a jailbroken phone? firstoff its called blackra1n click it, wait 15 seconds, then install palm like multitasking and download any app for free 3rd party and alike.


Also, the OS is fine, you just dont like the icons and navigation.,.. jailbreak and install a new theme... Since you are obviously a noob, I'll state this as well.. if you think your going to get in trouble, you wont, just restore your phone to its origional OS, and they cant tell it was jailbroken...
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I'm not an idiot, I know about jailbreaking. But not everyone does, and people with recent 3GSes can't jailbreak. There are plenty of things that the iPhone should do out of the box that it doesn't, and that's why the iPhone is losing ground to Android and other platforms.
 
*LTD* said:
Apple introduced the iPhone and suddenly everyone else got busy changing around their UIs, adding capacitive touch screens, you name it.
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If your knowledge of the smartphone market started with the iPhone, then you'd no doubt think that.

However, those things were already happening, albeit slowly. Remember the Prada? Or the Synaptics Onyx? Or the Black Box true all-touch concept? Plus Android had been in the works just as long as the iPhone.

There's no disputing that Apple made smartphones more popular, but they did it by implementing ideas that everyone had, and doing it now.

Interestingly, after Jobs said they had no product (in the Wired article you quoted), Apple looks like they might've copied from the Linux Open Moko phone (which was shown off months before the iPhone), including multitouch and pinch.

Apple knows exactly what they're doing in the legal arena.
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Sometimes. Apple got sued over Visual Voicemail and now has to license it. They're now being sued over their method of smooth scrolling Safari screens.

Perhaps ultimately Apple just wants to use some of HTC's innovations, like the animated weather transitions and integrated social pieces.
 
yg17 said:
To people like you, any touchscreen phone is a knockoff. It's not even worth discussing.
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Welcome to MacRumors and discussions involving LTD. The rule of thumb is that if it isn't Apple with him, it isn't good.

Just imagine if he was going for something like a CT scan.

"Who makes your CT scanner?"
"It's one of Siemen's premiere models, we just purchased it last year."
"Oh, sorry, it can't be very good then - Apple didn't make it."

;)
 
Bafflefish said:
Welcome to MacRumors and discussions involving LTD. The rule of thumb is that if it isn't Apple with him, it isn't good.

Just imagine if he was going for something like a CT scan.

"Who makes your CT scanner?"
"It's one of Siemen's premiere models, we just purchased it last year."
"Oh, sorry, it can't be very good then - Apple didn't make it."

;)
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Hilarious. :D
 
NakedPaulToast said:
Simply bringing up poor man's copyright is proof you don't know a damned thing about US IP.

From the US Copyright Office:
I’ve heard about a “poor man’s copyright.” What is it?

The practice of sending a copy of your own work to yourself is sometimes called a “poor man’s copyright.” There is no provision in the copyright law regarding any such type of protection, and it is not a substitute for registration.​
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One of my good friends is is in the legal field and works specifically with IP. We have discussed this before. I will trust his opinion over an unknown individual on the internet. :)

UPDATE

Let me clarify. The actual practice of "poor man's copyright" is not necessarily effective, and it's correct to say that there's no provision for it under the law. The point I was making is related to the fact that the practice of mailing a work to oneself is based on the way copyright works, even if the practice itself doesn't really work.

A work is copyrighted the instant it is made tangible, like writing a book on paper. That was the comparison I was making. Mailing a work to oneself is supposed to take advantage of this fact by proving when the work existed (by the date on the certified mail). That practice doesn't work so well, but that it is the creation of the work that earns the copyright (rather than filing for it) is the comparison that counts here.
 
iBlue said:
They're just pissed off someone was able to make an outstanding phone OS without the need for the insane controlfreakery. Apple should patent their brand of THAT. :rolleyes:
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It's a pretty douchetastic move. I might have to give the N1 a try again, except this time on VZW.
 
Apple just shut up and put just concentrate on making the new gen iPhone please.
 
NebulaClash said:
Just the opposite, really. Apple is only suing those who copy them. Those who move the industry forward (by definition the opposite of copying) are being left alone.
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*LTD* said:
Seems Palm wasn't a violator and Apple was careful enough to recognize distinctions between the two scenarios.
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Actually Apple has violated MANY patents of Palms, that's the reason why thay cannot touch Palm for multi touch infringment:

http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/28/apple-vs-palm-the-in-depth-analysis/
http://www.engadget.com/2009/01/23/palm-responds-to-apples-veiled-threat-over-pre/
http://www.fastcompany.com/blog/kit...pples-iphone-patent-says-it-can-defend-itself

Extract from last link:

"Palm was largely responsible for bringing the Personal Digital Assistant to the world—and the PDA has been instrumental in shaping today's smartphone devices. So it'd be foolish to think that Palm doesn't have a swag bag full of its own patents in order to protect its IP. Some Googling finds this Palm patent, for example: "Method and apparatus for accessing a contacts database and telephone services." It was filed back in 2001 and describes methods for managing a phone number database, including a quick-access "speed dial" option, that's eerily similar to the way the iPhone carries out that task."

Really, no one has EVER wondered why Apple has never tried to take Palm to court even though it's multi touch is pretty similar or that the screen even bounces the same? As I said, Palm could rip Apples nuts of with patents galour...

Oh but Apple never copy's anyone does it :rolleyes:

Apple should just shut the **** up and concentrate on the next iPhone and those damn MB Pros and Mac Pros we are ALL waiting for!!!!!
 
*LTD* said:
Good. Here we go.

"We've patented the hell out of this thing"

Finally, Apple wakes up and takes action.
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EXCELLENT NEWS, it's time to finally stop copycats and make them innovate instead of freeriding on other Apple's R&D...

The clearest evidence of how much they have profited from the iPhone is to check the market offerings BEFORE and AFTER the iPhone...does anyone remember what phones looked like before Apple presented it? Nope? Me neither.

SO GO CRUSH SOME SKULLS, APPLE..!

HTC IS SO DEAD. AND SO IS NOKIA.
 
Apple is losing marketshare while HTC is gaining marketshare. Of course Apple needs to react. Enough said about that law suit.
 
Really???

*LTD* said:
Apple knows exactly what they're doing in the legal arena. They've dodged any and all antitrust dangers, maintained their iTunes business model, fought off all allegations of corporate wrongdoing (stock-options, etc.) and recently got their OS X EULA upheld, burying Psystar.
Smart money is on Apple.
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Hm, AFAIK, Apple legal team lost every patent infringement case brought against them in the past. I have no recollection of any patent case they ever won? Sure, they could teach anyone a lesson or two..:D

BTW, the patent portfolio Apple holds is very weak. It will be interesting to watch this saga, should be a real lesson for everyone involved.
 
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