Absolutely not because there have been touchscreen phones since before 2004, and the HTC Touch was resistive, not capactive.
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Apple Files Lawsuit Against HTC Over Alleged iPhone Patent Infringement
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Absolutely not because there have been touchscreen phones since before 2004, and the HTC Touch was resistive, not capactive.
I specifically referred to the HTC Touch that was shown in a "slideshow" in December 2006. A SLIDESHOW!!
One month later Steve Jobs showed a WORKING device. Not a bunch of "look what we have" slides.
I might also add Eric Schmidt was on the Apple Board in August 2006. Since that time he has been stealing IP from Apple until the time of his departure.
So no need to come with purported aphorisms, Eidorian...I criticize Apple whenever necessary; the problem is, Apple hasn't deserved much criticism at least in the last 10 years; it's not my fault.
Way too much good news about Apple. It's becoming unbearable!
It's funny because Nokia sued them in a major lawsuit that could make apple pay either a crazy amount of money or make them stop making phones for a short time because it was a major deal.
Nokia Sues Apple Over iPhone - WSJ.com
So in that case apple just said, well your using our crap. Apple can tell that they aren't the top dog anymore and they are just trying to bite and chew at anything they can. HTC will most likely be charged with patent infringement, just as apple should be for many other things that they aren't.
After just reading the update as to what apple is trying to do. It's crazy, they want a permanent injunction for them to stop making phones with that technology, even after the whole Nokia issue, nokia was nice enough to not go for injunction. Just goes to show, apple is evil. Which about 8 of those patents, are BS patents anyways, and i don't think will hold up legally. 2 of them might hold up legally.
It's more of a marketing campaign than anything legit... give me a break, most of the patents are BS and show just how overwhelmed and full of shi!te the US patent office has become... case in point:
"The ‘849 Patent, entitled "Unlocking A Device By Performing Gestures On An Unlock Image," was duly and legally issued on February 2, 2010 by the United States Patent and Trademark Office. A copy of the ‘849 Patent is attached hereto as Exhibit C."
So they would actually have to sue M$ and Google for this as well (seeing as both WM and Android also use this method). The US patent office will grant a patent to just about anything today and many of them get overturned in such suits because the patent office doesn't have a good understanding about such things they are giving right to and what the law would hold up in court. Very few of these lawsuits actually amount to anything (other than free PR). Also the US patent office as of late has been giving leeway to/for many foreign patents (especially EU patents) as well. So if HTC has a similar patent that was issued than they will actually be shooting as HTC can turn around and file similar suits in those nations (but then Apple dos this quite often anyway, so it's par for the course, lol).
Ex. 2
"The ‘726 Patent, entitled "System And Method For Managing Power Conditions Within A Digital Camera Device," was duly and legally issued on July 6, 1999 by the United States Patent and Trademark Office. A copy of the ‘726 Patent is attached hereto as Exhibit E."
Really?? I HIGHLY doubt Apple has developed a power management system for their camera that is unique or anything different from Nokia, Olympia, Cannon ect... Actually look for these companies to file suit against Apple after they find out about this patent. Oh, which is another thing, there are SO MANY patents that even the patent office(s) can't keep them straight. It's actually very common for a patent to be issued incorrectly when there is already a previous patent that the new one will infringe upon. Patent lawyers for large firms earn their money
Nokia Sues Apple Over iPhone - WSJ.com
So in that case apple just said, well your using our crap. Apple can tell that they aren't the top dog anymore and they are just trying to bite and chew at anything they can. HTC will most likely be charged with patent infringement, just as apple should be for many other things that they aren't.
After just reading the update as to what apple is trying to do. It's crazy, they want a permanent injunction for them to stop making phones with that technology, even after the whole Nokia issue, nokia was nice enough to not go for injunction. Just goes to show, apple is evil. Which about 8 of those patents, are BS patents anyways, and i don't think will hold up legally. 2 of them might hold up legally.
It's more of a marketing campaign than anything legit... give me a break, most of the patents are BS and show just how overwhelmed and full of shi!te the US patent office has become... case in point:
"The ‘849 Patent, entitled "Unlocking A Device By Performing Gestures On An Unlock Image," was duly and legally issued on February 2, 2010 by the United States Patent and Trademark Office. A copy of the ‘849 Patent is attached hereto as Exhibit C."
So they would actually have to sue M$ and Google for this as well (seeing as both WM and Android also use this method). The US patent office will grant a patent to just about anything today and many of them get overturned in such suits because the patent office doesn't have a good understanding about such things they are giving right to and what the law would hold up in court. Very few of these lawsuits actually amount to anything (other than free PR). Also the US patent office as of late has been giving leeway to/for many foreign patents (especially EU patents) as well. So if HTC has a similar patent that was issued than they will actually be shooting as HTC can turn around and file similar suits in those nations (but then Apple dos this quite often anyway, so it's par for the course, lol).
Ex. 2
"The ‘726 Patent, entitled "System And Method For Managing Power Conditions Within A Digital Camera Device," was duly and legally issued on July 6, 1999 by the United States Patent and Trademark Office. A copy of the ‘726 Patent is attached hereto as Exhibit E."
Really?? I HIGHLY doubt Apple has developed a power management system for their camera that is unique or anything different from Nokia, Olympia, Cannon ect... Actually look for these companies to file suit against Apple after they find out about this patent. Oh, which is another thing, there are SO MANY patents that even the patent office(s) can't keep them straight. It's actually very common for a patent to be issued incorrectly when there is already a previous patent that the new one will infringe upon. Patent lawyers for large firms earn their money
Exactly - how on earth can jailbreaking be considered a good solution now when you can't even do it on new models? What happens if my earlier 3GS malfunctions or gets stolen? Sorry, but I just don't want to depend on that anymore.
This is absolutely NOT necessary in most jurisdictions outside the US, though...not to mention that protection arises automatically with the "fixation" of the creation, by tangible or intangible means, through any support...registration is merely an option.
and that is what is so ironic
Apple is always in the right on these boards!
If Apple takes...it's justified. If Apple gets taken from then by golly, WWIII is gonna happen
Entertainment is relative though. It's entertaining for me right now since I'm sitting in a car dealership waiting room. Not much else to do.
That's what astroturfing is all about. They don't care about facts, just talking points that advance an agenda.
You cannot design an interface like that from scratch in 5 months. It is simply not possible. Anyone who thinks it is knows nothing about software development. It has to be designed, developed, tested, fixed, tested again and sent to manufacturing. That cannot be done in 5 months. Period.
Again, a press release is not disclosure. If it were, many of Intuit's stuff would be more than vaporware (maybe if they just had *one* that worked well on Macs...). And (from another post) a Powerpoint presentation doesn't mean anything--what was disclosed?
It's up to Palm to try that, I am not their lawyer. Not to mention that a great number of patents granted by the USPTO is frivolous (including Apple's); this is what happens when you create a wide-open patent system that not only allows for stupidly absurd software patents, but is also based on the presumption that your domestic scientific production will lead to market protection internationally...so anything goes unless the opposite is proven.
Its funny, I can get the point you are trying to get at...but when you say something like that...i look at the market before the iphone and low and behold:
Whats that??? A mostly touchscreen phone?
Maybe a fluke..there must've been just one...
oh wait
Listen yes we know...Apple came and did some great things with the iPhone while the phone industry was a bit stagnant...but there was already a slow move towards large touchscreen devices. The popularity of the iphone helped accelerate this greatly.
Has someone already posted the patents in question?
http://forums.appleinsider.com/showpost.php?p=1582302&postcount=1
Revealed in the lawsuit are the patents in question. They are entitled:
"Time-Based, Non-Constant Translation Of User Interface Objects Between States"
"Touch Screen Device, Method, And Graphical User Interface For Determining Commands By Applying Heuristics"
"Unlocking A Device By Performing Gestures On An Unlock Image"
"List Scrolling And Document Translation, Scaling, And Rotation On A Touch-Screen Display"
"System And Method For Managing Power Conditions Within A Digital Camera Device"
"Automated Response To And Sensing Of User Activity In Portable Devices"
"GMSK Signal Processors For Improved Communications Capacity And Quality"
"Conserving Power By Reducing Voltage Supplied To An Instruction-Processing Portion Of A Processor"
"Object-Oriented Graphic System"
"Object-Oriented Event Notification System With Listener Registration Of Both Interests And Methods"
http://forums.appleinsider.com/showpost.php?p=1582302&postcount=1
Revealed in the lawsuit are the patents in question. They are entitled:
"Time-Based, Non-Constant Translation Of User Interface Objects Between States"
"Touch Screen Device, Method, And Graphical User Interface For Determining Commands By Applying Heuristics"
"Unlocking A Device By Performing Gestures On An Unlock Image"
"List Scrolling And Document Translation, Scaling, And Rotation On A Touch-Screen Display"
"System And Method For Managing Power Conditions Within A Digital Camera Device"
"Automated Response To And Sensing Of User Activity In Portable Devices"
"GMSK Signal Processors For Improved Communications Capacity And Quality"
"Conserving Power By Reducing Voltage Supplied To An Instruction-Processing Portion Of A Processor"
"Object-Oriented Graphic System"
"Object-Oriented Event Notification System With Listener Registration Of Both Interests And Methods"
Actually, the Chinese seem to be really rapid prototype developers when they steal technology, like weeks. So while I generally agree that it takes time to get it right, it can be fast to just get "something".
The most interesting thing about this lawsuit?
It drags up old attempts to replace the aging classic Mac OS that began in the early 1990’s including the Pink/Taligent project.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taligent
And apparently, NeXT is technically a wholly owned subsidiary of Apple, Inc. So, it lives!
http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20100302/apples-suits-against-htc-both-documents/
It drags up old attempts to replace the aging classic Mac OS that began in the early 1990’s including the Pink/Taligent project.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taligent
And apparently, NeXT is technically a wholly owned subsidiary of Apple, Inc. So, it lives!
http://digitaldaily.allthingsd.com/20100302/apples-suits-against-htc-both-documents/
In that context it is more than likely very entertaining.Entertainment is relative though. It's entertaining for me right now since I'm sitting in a car dealership waiting room. Not much else to do.
I have just had more time to watch the same actors play their parts without fail and tiresome repetition. We're still missing a full cast though.
Right and wrong. I refer only to the U.S. In the U.S., it must be fixed in a tangible (not intangible) medium of expression:
§ 102. Subject matter of copyright: In general
(a) Copyright protection subsists, in accordance with this title, in original works of authorship fixed in any tangible medium of expression, now known or later developed, from which they can be perceived, reproduced, or otherwise communicated, either directly or with the aid of a machine or device. Works of authorship include the following categories:
(1) literary works;
(2) musical works, including any accompanying words;
(3) dramatic works, including any accompanying music;
(4) pantomimes and choreographic works;
(5) pictorial, graphic, and sculptural works;
(6) motion pictures and other audiovisual works;
(7) sound recordings; and
(8) architectural works.
(b) In no case does copyright protection for an original work of authorship extend to any idea, procedure, process, system, method of operation, concept, principle, or discovery, regardless of the form in which it is described, explained, illustrated, or embodied in such work.