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I'm all for Apple defending patent infringements. However, all of this legal battle has to begin hitting their bottom line. So either profit margins diminish, or product prices start going up; and my bet is on Apple increasing prices to compensate. I hope they have carefully weighed all the pro's and con's. Although they have been slowly building quite a little cash reserve on the side for while now. So perhaps this is why? I hoped it was for a new product, but maybe this is part of that picture.
 
You seem to be in the minority. However, you're still free to think whatever you like about the iPhone OS.

The industry has christened the iPhone OS the ideal. There will be those few that won't agree with that. And there are also people who sill miss DOS.

The combination of hardware + software on the iPhone is unparalleled. Apple's found the sweet-spot and continues to enjoy the fruits of it.

I have never wrote this down before, but as you would say: LOL!

Anyway, your numbers don't add up. Most people chose other smartphones and not the iPhone. Many of us with iPhone still hate the limitations in the hardware, like the poor camera and battery life. If the software was so good, there would be no connection between the words 'jailbreaking' and 'iPhone'.

The iPhone was pretty impressive a year ago. It is not anymore and currently HTC might have some of the best smartphones on the market. Not two with minimal differences, but several. Many of them are not even sold in the US. But the HD2 and the Nexus - they are fantastic phones and the Nexus easily pushes the iPhone franchise off the leading position.
 
Not to mention that copying demands FAR LESS engineering time than developing from the scratch...

HTC had their PPC-6700 that was a precursor to the HTC TOuch.


You guys really need to stop acting like HTC copied apple with the Touch.
 
If you kept reading the article....
"The PRADA Phone by LG will be available with prices starting from 600 Euros in mobile dealerships as well as selected PRADA stores in the UK, France, Germany and Italy as of late February, 2007"

A month and a half is not enough time to "rip off" the iPhone design.

I wasn't referring to the Chocolate as an iPhone rip-off. please re-read what I typed.


HTC had their PPC-6700 that was a precursor to the HTC TOuch.


You guys really need to stop acting like HTC copied apple with the Touch.

Well Apple thinks they did and I believe it's for the courts to decide not us.;)
 
But I typically treat them like I treat LTD's post: I ignore them.

I'm all for praising Apple when they deserve praise, and being critical when they deserve to be criticized, but apparently it's faux pas to be that way around here. :/

I'm with you on this. Lately Apple has been getting more and more wrong though. When they start going after other phones using patents instead of coming out with the next best thing it leads me to believe they are running short on ideas.
 
Once upon a time this band called The Beatles released this really great album called the white album but I didn't buy that one - some other 4 guys from the other side of the world called Teh Baetles released something that pretty much sounds exactly the same called the grey album - costs half as much - sounds very similar - I asked myself why pay more? - who the heck are these Beatles anyway! Trying to douche everyone out of money for just playing some songs - I mean anyone can play songs and make em just as good - heck, the never invented the guitar or anything. What a jip..

Get it now?

BTW - I'm not siding either - let a judge decide - what's HTC's get's paid dues and what's Apple's get's paid Dues - and what's Nokia's get's paid dues.
 
I agree. People can say what they want about Windows Mobile 7, but Microsoft appears to be one of the few that are trying to move far away from the iPhone clone look. I don't think it'll do so great, but still, it would have been easy to fall into the same trap that everyone has since the debut of the iPhone.

They may be "trying" to move away from the iPhone clone look, but even they are not doing a very good job innovation (shocker). Windows Mobile 7 (or whatever it is called now) is certainly a more subtle clone, but a clone nonetheless.
 
I wasn't referring to the Chocolate as an iPhone rip-off. please re-read what I typed.




Well Apple thinks they did and I believe it's for the courts to decide not us.;)

I don't think they are even concerned of about the HTC touch for this battle. sounds like its mostly about android based devices.
 
Well Apple thinks they did and I believe it's for the courts to decide not us.;)

Exactly; it seems like we have a lot of judges in this forum. :rolleyes:

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I'm with you on this. Lately Apple has been getting more and more wrong though. When they start going after other phones using patents instead of coming out with the next best thing it leads me to believe they are running short on ideas.

I doubt they are running short on idea. I think they are just trying to shake the leeches off before they move on. It will just get expensive to do it. Hopefully they have a plan to pay for it without price increases.
 
Apple have patents, and they want to protect them. There is nothing "evil" with that.

These are all legitimate patents that Apple worked long and hard on and spent millions to develop.

If you're the CEO of a major public corporation and you owned those patents you'd do the same thing.
 
They may be "trying" to move away from the iPhone clone look, but even they are not doing a very good job innovation (shocker). Windows Mobile 7 (or whatever it is called now) is certainly a more subtle clone, but a clone nonetheless.

Yes, when you get down to it Windows 7 Touch is basically a rip of the PS3 primary horizontal-vertical-cross-axis-sliding selector bar. Not entirely sure why Sony aren't gonna sue them for it...
 
Yes, when you get down to it Windows 7 Touch is basically a rip of the PS3 primary horizontal-vertical-cross-axis-sliding selector bar. Not entirely sure why Sony aren't gonna sue them for it...
I noticed the cross bar similarity as well. Though the key metaphor the Windows Mobile 7 system appears to be using is a scroll of paper.
 
Slow??

Everything changed a little to fast and little too suddenly, given the slow "evolution" of the market before June 2007. And did the market ever move slowly before Apple!

Apple has only ONE phone to offer, it has become the new Motorola Razor V3. It's boring and old compared to what is out now, and what will come later. The iPhone's 15 minutes are up.
 
Apple have patents, and they want to protect them. There is nothing "evil" with that.

These are all legitimate patents that Apple worked long and hard on and spent millions to develop.

If you're the CEO of a major public corporation and you owned those patents you'd do the same thing.

Software patents are like putting a patent on math equations.


Seriously....i think it just hinders progression but at the same time i understand a company wanting to protect its patents.

But HTC, Microsoft, Palm and (less so) google all have related phone patents so this will be interesting to see how it plays out.
 
Apple has only ONE phone to offer, it has become the new Motorola Razor V3. It's boring and old compared to what is out now, and what will come later. The iPhone's 15 minutes are up.

Except that Apple continues to develop the iPhone. Which is the worst news for the also-rans. And June is getting closer. Apple's already rolling out the *next* game-changer (it's already changing the game and it isn't even on sale yet), the iPad.

What have we been hearing about the Nexus One? Google's latest-and-greatest HTC-rebrand? Hey, Uncle Walt said it best, right? Great phone, but it's no iPhone. No one's even talking about the Droid anymore. It's as if Google wants us to forget all about it. And it's not even more than a few months old.
 
Apple should just shut the **** up and concentrate on the next iPhone and those damn MB Pros and Mac Pros we are ALL waiting for!!!!!

I just didn't want to let this comment lost in the ether, while over-posting people maintain argue about their identity.



I went to a British law school, I have a management masters degree, but I never joined the bar. I have to tell you, none of my friends who did have the time to waste their lives on these forums. So, whoever maintains a lawyer image here, might be just as good in law as I am in feng shui or pleasing very skinny women.
 
I noticed the cross bar similarity as well. Though the key metaphor the Windows Mobile 7 system appears to be using is a scroll of paper.

Yeah still I agree it looked more polished than the PS3 which is click-drag tedium. If an 'up flick, right flick, down flick' can get you from one end to the other in just three cute swipes it could be something quite nice to use.

Thinking on I now wonder if MS haven't *intentionally* avoided replicating the iPhone in the knowledge that a patent storm was brewing!
 
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