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Apple Gearing Up for Launch of Vision Pro Developer Kits
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Compared to the Valve Index, this is thin and will only get thinner over time. Very much looking forward to replacing all my monitors with this.
Maybe more than a decade even if you can get businesses to get on board too.
If this thing is just an entertainment consumption machine then it will be as commonplace as the PSVR2. Nice but not something we can’t live without.
The ecosystem needs to do create something that we can’t live without. And until that reason shows up, the default position is that it’s not going to be commonplace by virtue that most of us can choose to ignore it.
So this is what happens to your hair when you use it? No thank you I’ll pass 😂 Apple really needs to go back in their advertising department and rethink what they’re trying to express when they’re showing this product. Some of their ads look totally atrocious just like this one. I expect better from Apple. They really needs to go back in their advertising department. I expect better from Apple this is just garbage Imagery of their products.
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Looking forward to hearing more about all the new apps developed for Vision Pro
Wholeheartedly agreed. I am surprised by the reaction to the AVP - which can only be recognizing that it is nothing less but groundbreaking in many ways except price.
I agree that it's a steal for money and I summarized in my 1st posting here my thoughts without any reaction.
- Looks like the price dictates any further thoughts.
- Looks like the negativeness is a direct function of personal outlook to get one.
- Looks like the vision of possibilities is rather limited for many.
I can't understand why the perceived majority of the common city here is harsh with full of negativeness about a long term plan that is carried out so well?
Für me this is a fantastic moment in time to remember and look back: Look - that's how it all started and could you imagine that many claimed to dislike it for one moment?
Sorry for being negative, but the longer I think about this the more I think this vision for Apple is going to die, before it eventually comes back years later.
Not that I'm against VR/AR at all, but it HAS a market already which Apple are wanting to ignore (Gaming/Immersion)
The market is alive for this sector, and some people are willing to wear a headset strapped to their face to get this Immersion Experience.
It's a price worth paying.
No it's not a nice experience, yet it's a pain, yes you need to decide you want to have the experience.
Apple seem to be selling a fire cracker but advertising trips to mars.
I do wonder if Apple are willing to take the negative hit's this if going to take after the initial excitement and novelty has worn off. If they will stop selling it, and then perhaps in 5 or 10 years actually launch the product they are trying to advertise today.
They could pivot into entertainment, but Apple are a VERY stubborn company who I feel would rather not sell something that be forced to change things.
It's going to be very interesting to watch what happens, that's for sure.
Of course, it could also pretty much vanish as a consumer product and just move into the area where HoloLens was trying to place itself.
It's been said many times I know, but I feels it's still true. Most normal people are not going to strap a large headset to the front of their face for any amount of time, unless there is a VERY BIG benefit for doing so.
Not that I'm against VR/AR at all, but it HAS a market already which Apple are wanting to ignore (Gaming/Immersion)
The market is alive for this sector, and some people are willing to wear a headset strapped to their face to get this Immersion Experience.
It's a price worth paying.
No it's not a nice experience, yet it's a pain, yes you need to decide you want to have the experience.
Apple seem to be selling a fire cracker but advertising trips to mars.
I do wonder if Apple are willing to take the negative hit's this if going to take after the initial excitement and novelty has worn off. If they will stop selling it, and then perhaps in 5 or 10 years actually launch the product they are trying to advertise today.
They could pivot into entertainment, but Apple are a VERY stubborn company who I feel would rather not sell something that be forced to change things.
It's going to be very interesting to watch what happens, that's for sure.
Of course, it could also pretty much vanish as a consumer product and just move into the area where HoloLens was trying to place itself.
It's been said many times I know, but I feels it's still true. Most normal people are not going to strap a large headset to the front of their face for any amount of time, unless there is a VERY BIG benefit for doing so.
Yeah I can see why Tim’s hand was forced to release this now (I mean it should have been a couple of years ago). It’s the best version of the last generation of VR headsets that money can buy. When even a startup is making something like the Bigscreen Beyond, this just looks outdated no matter how fantastic the individual components are. Over the next few years headsets are going to shrink rapidly.
Don’t get me wrong I love VR and applaud Apples concept for the software, that’s the really game changing thing they introduced. But the hardware - not so much.
The benefit will be immersion and memories.
For many people, simply being able to relive a key event like say, their child's birthday, would be reason enough to get one. You are getting a degree of realism not possible with photos or even professionally-produced footage.
I can concede that Apple still may not be able to do gaming well, and the Vision Pro will still succeed despite this. Apple is going to revolutionise how content is consumed.
All the while, Apple’s design acumen gives the company the best position to release headsets that people will want to be seen wearing. I believe Apple is already laying the groundwork for branding Vision Pro’s shape as a type of Apple trademark – something the company has been doing with other products for years. We already see this with their other products like the iPhone notch, square Apple Watch display and AirPods stems. They are highly visible design languages that make them readily identifiable even from a distance away.
You do realize you are only able to have one (1) Mac monitor in the Vision Pro, right? Also, how long do you think you will be able to type in the air? I recommend holding your arms out and pretend to type using the Vision Pro and see how long you can type. The full two hours of battery life? Doubt it.
I think Apple is gonna make this device a hobby for a while. It’s not focusing on immediate success, but having a foot in the industry and growing it over time.
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The interesting thing is that when you look at it on its own, the display/”computer” part of it is surprisingly thin given the amount of advanced tech inside. It’s the “light guard” that makes it look so huge. But it’s still a fair observation, since it’s all a part of the same larger package
Lol why the heck would anyone want to see fighting on their coffee table? Ridiculous.
One thing I think many are overlooking is the (anti)social aspect of AVP.
Only one person can have the experience with the device. If you want to experience with family and friends, you either need to take turns (swapping light guards?) or buy one each which will be very costly.
Great for people with no social life but totally useless for a family.
I have no doubt the AVP can transform some research areas and business cases, but for the rest of us, it is a very expensive toy that I think will feel very cumbersome to use after the intial novelty wears off.
Only one person can have the experience with the device. If you want to experience with family and friends, you either need to take turns (swapping light guards?) or buy one each which will be very costly.
Great for people with no social life but totally useless for a family.
I have no doubt the AVP can transform some research areas and business cases, but for the rest of us, it is a very expensive toy that I think will feel very cumbersome to use after the intial novelty wears off.
Does anybody know if there’s a mechanism to hot-swap batteries, but have the unit run for maybe a few moments off a smaller internal battery or capacitor so it doesn’t have to shut down or even sleep while this takes place?
If not, I imagine the market for secondary batteries (which would plug into the main battery) will be big for this thing (especially once it goes more mainstream in a handful of years).
If not, I imagine the market for secondary batteries (which would plug into the main battery) will be big for this thing (especially once it goes more mainstream in a handful of years).
I agree. This headset seems to be exceptionally good at eye tracking, so much so that it can replace commercial eye trackers people use in labs, which require people to sit on a chair in the best case, and in the worst case being on a chair AND putting their head on a chinrest during the entire experience. These instruments cost way more than one AVP.
And thanks to this feature, the system is capable of recording in 3D mind you what you are presently looking at. I don't think that anything like this is available in another product at this price point, or at all.
Focusing on what the system yet is not seems to ignore the framework it introduces. The first iPHone was very limited, but the framework was the grounbreaking aspect -- a device the size of a cell phone ONLY consisting of a touch screen and showing a clever interface to use fingers to interact with something like this in a completely novel way. I think this was one of the major conceptual aspects that made it back then clear to me this will be the future. I have the same feeling now about the AVP. The framework is exceptional -- control with you eyes and your hands, not huge controllers, and working with the real world at the same time. Size, weight, battery life, etc etc, these are all peripheral problems that will be solved over time. What counts is the concept, and that is just again very clever.
This requires Apple to allow developers to actually use the eye tracking data, something I highly doubt Apple will, due to privacy.
Also, there is a HUGE difference between holding something in your hand and strapping something to your head.
The most uninformed comment I have read in years
You will be readily identifiable as a sociopath walking around with one of these monstrosities strapped to your face.
Any word if this is going to come with a case?
I'm staring at you, AirPods Max.
For the price it had better. and for the all glass front it had darn well better.
I'm staring at you, AirPods Max.
For the price it had better. and for the all glass front it had darn well better.