I don't want to be an executive. I want to be a University Professor and that's exactly what I am.....
Why don't you ask all the millionaires and billionaires that have gotten rich off Tim Cook if they would like to remove his incentive to grow the company? If these people weren't worth it to the people who are paying them, they wouldn't pay them. How can this be so hard to understand?
It's also controversial if you refer to it as a Christmas gift instead of a "holiday" or "winter" gift.![]()
It's a lot better than Clark Griswold getting a jelly of the month club membership.
I'm from Germany. If you work for a german company (and by german, I mean a company that usually originated from Germany based on german ideas of social justice), you would get (as an employee - even the lowest level/retail/or similar) a 13th salary, "Christmass money" (anything raging from a full salary to a few hundred Euros) and "vacation money" (same as Christmass money - this goes on top of your paid vacation leave of 25-30 days per year of course).
And if you have a really good company (i.e. most german car manufactures, Siemens and such), you would get a "participation on winnings". This means, that if the company does good, you get a part of the winnings. VW, Audi, Porsche payed around 9000€ per employee in 2014.
Apple gave it's retail employees 0 of those benefits.
Even german equivalents of BestBuy/Radio Shack (here something like Saturn), did give out much better benefits to its employees than Apple ever did.
Apple is underpaying it's retail employees - plain and simple (at least in Germany by german standards).
FYI: I'm not guessing on the benefits - these are 100% real facts. Many of my friends work for Apple in different retail stores across Germany.
that is so lame! company of this magnitude gives this junk - that they buy at $10 at most a piece in mass quantity. how about free iPhone/ipod touch or at least $300 gift certificate?
that rivals this article:
http://www.bbc.com/capital/story/20141205-the-worst-bonuses-ever
And that is the point. Companies stop treating their employees with respect. It used to be employees got a cut of the profits.Yes, but that was never a verified thing. Just because a company has a great year doesn't automatically mean that they were going to give bonuses to everyone.
I worked for a company for a long time, and watched the perks slowly dwindle, even though the company was still doing well.
I understand the reactions of some people... to expect something MUCH better. But the problem is the *expecting*... whatever happened to just being thankful for a gift? Why does it have to have a certain monetary value attached to it? If you don't like the backpack for yourself, then pass it along to someone that could use it, who needs it. Walk down to your local homeless shelter and make someone's Christmas extra special. Isn't that what this season is about? Giving, not getting?
I would hate to work for any company that treated it's workforce in such a cheesy way.
Mind you the other side of the coin is that here in the UK the BBC are doing an Exposé on how Apple treats it's manufacturing workforce in the Far East this coming Thursday. From the clips I've seen it makes for uncomfortable viewing.
Hey, Mr. Professor, have you ever heard of the concept of corporate governance? If so, please note that Apple is apparently not very good at it (http://www3.gmiratings.com/home/2012/02/ignoring-shareholders-wishes-at-apple/). The concluding line of the article reads "Thus Apple stands out in more ways than one: ignoring the wishes of a substantial majority of its shareholders, and claiming that Californian law makes it difficult to implement majority voting." I can just hope your responsibilities in academia do not include anything that requires getting the facts before drawing a conclusion...
Only iPhone/ipod touch? It should be a Macbook Pro Retina,![]()
Wow, that took like 60 seconds.
Really ? Does the word "Christmas" offend you ? Or you just like rolling your eyes in the name of the P.C. police ?
You can call it anything you like. Learn some tolerance.
The problem is that a small gift can often be worse than no gift.
It becomes an insult.
If you work hard all year, make the company lots of money, and yes, you do get your salary for doing you work of course.
Then the boss comes round, says happy christmas, thanks for all the effort, have a cookie or a mince pie, then that can be seen as an insult as that's all he thinks you are worth, one mince pie.
It would be better just giving a card with a thank you, than to give an insulting gift.
But then, although i have plenty of apple products and do love them, I don't share the blind devotion many do.
That's a blatant insult to people who don't wear rings. And how would we know if the diamonds are conflict-free? It would be a disaster! Apple might not survive the outrage.How about a fraction of a carat diamondembossed ring. Long-time employee can get a carat, mid-time would get a half, under 2yrs would get a quarter carat.
Blind devotion is what other people feel. Only I am capable of having discernment.And how do you define "blind" devotion? Are people not allowed to admire a company or be proud of where they work to the point where they would be glad to have a nice item with the company logo on it?
How many hours did you have to scour to try to find a supposedly critical article about Apple's corporate practices. Are you claiming that the majority of Apple's stockholders are unhappy? I doubt you even understand what you read. And don't take an attitude with me. If you want to make some real arguments refuting my statements please feel free, but "Hey, Mister Professor" is how a child begins an argument. Refute what I said with some logic, not a snippy response with a 2012 article totally off point.
Edit: Talk about Pot and Kettle: I guess you didn't do your research. http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/01566c76-5e39-11e1-85f6-00144feabdc0.html#axzz3M1p4j3vb
Apple fanboys already hate Apple. But that's always been true, so there's nothing new there.Jobs somehow hid capitalism behind the facade of rebelliousness but now that he's goneI suspect its just a short time before apple fan boys come to understand that Apple is likely one of the top companies they will come to hate.
Apparently you find it controversial if they refer to it as a "holiday" or "winter" gift. Since Apple can't please everyone, they may as well use an more inclusive term. They'll leave out people who don't think Christmas should be a holiday, or that it should be in the winter, or that anyone should give gifts.It's also controversial if you refer to it as a Christmas gift instead of a "holiday" or "winter" gift.EDIT: I'm rolling my eyes at political correctness, not you.
that is so lame! company of this magnitude gives this junk - that they buy at $10 at most a piece in mass quantity. how about free iPhone/ipod touch or at least $300 gift certificate?
that rivals this article:
http://www.bbc.com/capital/story/20141205-the-worst-bonuses-ever
So you expect them to give something?! That's why employees are paid a salary funnily enough.
Having said that not only is the sentiment nice but they have around 85,000 full time employees which means that they have spent near on a million bucks (based on your $10 a bag) which they certainly didn't have to![]()
And here, folks, is the problem with our society... an overbearing sense of entitlement...
Does Apple not also give great PAID working opportunities? Hmmm, guess not. Hey Apple, it's time to close your doors. You've let down JoeCool and the rest of us. Next year nobody will get anything. Happy now JoeCool?
BMW employees in Germany are given such great rates at buying new BMWs, they can drive them for a year or two, and then still sell them to general public at a hefty profit.
no, the problems is your thinking - keeping the economic gap widening, just because we don't value "low-end" work positions?
why don't you go for apple and see how you would feel...
i don't work for apple, but the corporate can do a lot more to appreciate it's workforce that is is pushing BILLIONS of profit through those store apples you ass!