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that is so lame! company of this magnitude gives this junk - that they buy at $10 at most a piece in mass quantity. how about free iPhone/ipod touch or at least $300 gift certificate?

that rivals this article:
http://www.bbc.com/capital/story/20141205-the-worst-bonuses-ever

Knowing Apple, I suspect those backpacks are probably a lot nicer than the "$10 junk" you describe, however no company is obliged to give anything at all, and are you forgetting about those three extra paid off-days they got during Thanksgiving week?
 
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Most big firms, like Apple, offer a year end bonus based on sales, performance, and meeting objectives.

I'm sure the bag is extra

Those above the store level gets lots of spiffs this time of year. One thing that I'm really surprised how little press the annual Apple Christmas party gets. In the past, Apple has hired A-list entertainers for their private parts. The likes of U2, Ella Fitzgerald and Metallica have played inside very private and enclosed locations in the past.
 
Breaking news.
Apple also gave this luxury iPhone stove to all their employees. Merry Christmas. Ho ho ho
 

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Heh, these bags are less than 30 USD on Taobao.

Right, visually you got just that. I suppose you think a North Face Bag that I've used in 40 mountain treks, climbing cliff faces is EXACTLY the same as the $30 bag....

Sure, North Face and the like have a big markeup but NO they're not the same. Your $30 dollar bag will last less than a year (for me), while I'm now in my 10+ year with that $75 bag.

Visually, it would be very hard to see the difference right away.

I've got a Patagonia Fleece that's lasted me nearly 20 years (bought $100 at that time, would be $150 now), tell me how much cheaper you can buy one that will last that long without looking like crap?

People who think all's the same are probably the same people who sold airlines cheap bolts that sheered off under load...
 
Of course, let's not forget that these same backpacks will be checked by security as these employees leave work while they are OFF the clock. Excellent.:rolleyes:

Apple can be soooooooo chicken ***** sometimes.
 
Most big firms, like Apple, offer a year end bonus based on sales, performance, and meeting objectives.

I'm sure the bag is extra

You are right, but, the people who do the real work do not receive bonuses. At the retail store level, unless they are in management, they are strictly hourly coworkers.
 
that is so lame! company of this magnitude gives this junk - that they buy at $10 at most a piece in mass quantity. how about free iPhone/ipod touch or at least $300 gift certificate?

that rivals this article:
http://www.bbc.com/capital/story/20141205-the-worst-bonuses-ever

Or a lot more than that. Here are some quick numbers I grabbed. Please correct if they are not accurate.

Apple has about 93,000 employees.
In 2013 they made $171,000,000,000 in revenue with $37,000,000,000 in profit. Profit.
If they take just one billion of that and give it to the employees for, I don't know, being the actual people who made that happen. For investing their lives into being a part of the Apple machine that did all of this, that would be $10,750 per employee. (I'm pretty sure the 2014 numbers are even better).

Instead, they got a backpack :(

I really don't care if you stock stuff in the warehouse or machine prototypes. I think you should give to those who devote day after day and week after week to making the money that company is swimming in. If others deserve more, you can take another billion and dole that out to the executives or whoever.

There is a company from India that gives out houses, cars and jewelry to its employees. Why doesn't a company that approaches $40,000,000,000 a year in profit do something similar.

Are your employees really your greatest asset?
 
Or a lot more than that. Here are some quick numbers I grabbed. Please correct if they are not accurate.

Apple has about 93,000 employees.
In 2013 they made $171,000,000,000 in revenue with $37,000,000,000 in profit. Profit.
If they take just one billion of that and give it to the employees for, I don't know, being the actual people who made that happen. For investing their lives into being a part of the Apple machine that did all of this, that would be $10,750 per employee. (I'm pretty sure the 2014 numbers are even better).

Instead, they got a backpack :(

I really don't care if you stock stuff in the warehouse or machine prototypes. I think you should give to those who devote day after day and week after week to making the money that company is swimming in. If others deserve more, you can take another billion and dole that out to the executives or whoever.

There is a company from India that gives out houses, cars and jewelry to its employees. Why doesn't a company that approaches $40,000,000,000 a year in profit do something similar.

Are your employees really your greatest asset?

Why doesn't Apple do this? Because they don't, that's why. You have NO idea what else the employees got, besides this backpack. This is the only thing reported on. We have no idea if a Christmas bonus was given to everyone. We have no idea if a party was throw at each store, and extra presents were given out there.
Nope, we just see this one thing, which everyone got, regardless of what you actually did at Apple, and then everyone has to armchair Santa the entire company as if they didn't do enough.
 
Well after reading the threads there are two camps. One that says don't expect anything because I don't get anything from my company. While the other says they could have done more.

The bottom line is, those who cite personal examples of how they got next to nothing from their companies in spite of holding high positions forgot to mention what companies they are working for.

We are talking about Apple. The most valuable company in the world and not some XYZ, inc. A company with vision, tough hiring practices and where the employees are not just another number but part of their asset. Oh I forgot, the most richest in terms of profit and assets. The same company that stashed money overseas to escape taxes. Couldn't they have given a more substantial gift and write it off as expenses?

Sorry I know many drink the Apple koolaid here but Apple is one stingy company. Look at their so called "Christmas/Thanksgiving Sale".

BMW or other Auto companies usually give employee discounts for their vehicles which is 5-10% below invoice price and they are entitled to buying 3 vehicles a year.

You want to know how a profitable company treats its employees? Check out Microsoft,Google or Oil companies (Exxon mobile).

Apple will always be a bottom scraper. Its in their genes. Heck even Steve stole money from Wozniak when they were starting out.

So shove your moral high ground on how you should kneel to the ground and pray to the Apple gods for having given you a job. If they didn't then there won't be any Apple stores!
 
Hmmm ... So would everyone have wanted the backpack or the LG smart watch (Google's present)? Just curious.
 
And here, folks, is the problem with our society... an overbearing sense of entitlement...

Does Apple not also give great PAID working opportunities? Hmmm, guess not. Hey Apple, it's time to close your doors. You've let down JoeCool and the rest of us. Next year nobody will get anything. Happy now JoeCool?

Entitlement? They are a part of a company that made billions in profit. It's not a sense of entitlement since they are the ones who helped make that happen. They did their part. Their performance is in the numbers. They are putting forth effort and that effort has paid off. Since Apple is doing better than just about any company, shouldn't the employees have an end of the year bonus that reflects that? 40 bil in profits and they hand out backpacks. Why?

As an employer, what would make you NOT want to give back to the people who are a part of your company who helped you make $40 billion in profit?

Hey CEO, we should give large bonuses to our employees since we make more money than just about anyone anywhere in the world.

NO.

Give them backpacks.

It's not entitlement, it's kind of messed up that they have that much money and they don't give more to their employees.

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Why doesn't Apple do this? Because they don't, that's why. You have NO idea what else the employees got, besides this backpack. This is the only thing reported on. We have no idea if a Christmas bonus was given to everyone. We have no idea if a party was throw at each store, and extra presents were given out there.
Nope, we just see this one thing, which everyone got, regardless of what you actually did at Apple, and then everyone has to armchair Santa the entire company as if they didn't do enough.

Well, lets hear it Apple employees, what was your end of year bonus? I know some of you are out there reading.
 
that is so lame! company of this magnitude gives this junk - that they buy at $10 at most a piece in mass quantity. how about free iPhone/ipod touch or at least $300 gift certificate?

that rivals this article:
http://www.bbc.com/capital/story/20141205-the-worst-bonuses-ever

It's likely that many if not most employees additionally get a monetary bonus; it's part of standard compensation in tech industries. My own $30B company gives a monetary bonus of some kind to everyone. I don't know if Apple does for everyone (they have a retail division, which my company does not-- otherwise our businesses are similar enough). But I'll bet all the engineers get one.

I can tell you from personal experience as a tech employee, everything big is already negotiated and in my pay packet, including the year-end bonus. So, personally, I do appreciate little surprises like this-- a cup, mug, t-shirt-- as they are unexpected. Honestly, this little backpack from Apple is exceptionally nice, and expensive as these little corporate surprise gifts go.
 
So they get a bag that advertises the company logo.

Its what the rest of us are given by our companies for day to day use, and Apple calls it a Gift, kinda lame.

On a bright side, the Employees can sell this to fanboys who would pay heaps for it!

Tim better be wearing his backpack in the future....
 
Why doesn't Apple do this? Because they don't, that's why. You have NO idea what else the employees got, besides this backpack. This is the only thing reported on. We have no idea if a Christmas bonus was given to everyone. We have no idea if a party was throw at each store, and extra presents were given out there.
Nope, we just see this one thing, which everyone got, regardless of what you actually did at Apple, and then everyone has to armchair Santa the entire company as if they didn't do enough.

Exactly right.

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Well, lets hear it Apple employees, what was your end of year bonus? I know some of you are out there reading.

Why would you expect anyone would share details of any company's compensation plan with you?
 
Or a lot more than that. Here are some quick numbers I grabbed. Please correct if they are not accurate.

Apple has about 93,000 employees.
In 2013 they made $171,000,000,000 in revenue with $37,000,000,000 in profit. Profit.
If they take just one billion of that and give it to the employees for, I don't know, being the actual people who made that happen. For investing their lives into being a part of the Apple machine that did all of this, that would be $10,750 per employee. (I'm pretty sure the 2014 numbers are even better).

Instead, they got a backpack :(

I really don't care if you stock stuff in the warehouse or machine prototypes. I think you should give to those who devote day after day and week after week to making the money that company is swimming in. If others deserve more, you can take another billion and dole that out to the executives or whoever.

There is a company from India that gives out houses, cars and jewelry to its employees. Why doesn't a company that approaches $40,000,000,000 a year in profit do something similar.

Are your employees really your greatest asset?

It's simply a small fun company holiday gift. Nothing more. Not related to anything else brought up.
 
that is so lame! company of this magnitude gives this junk - that they buy at $10 at most a piece in mass quantity. how about free iPhone/ipod touch or at least $300 gift certificate?

that rivals this article:
http://www.bbc.com/capital/story/20141205-the-worst-bonuses-ever

At least they get SOMETHING. I work for a company that has not given a single raise to any of their employees in 8 years or any sort of gift what-so-ever. Ok, I take that back. The CEO has given herself a raise but that's pretty much it.
 
I don't care much for that backpack but I'm pleased to see that IKEA's duvet cover "SMÖRBOLL" is available in grey. I had only seen it in blue and green before.

Ha ha ha that had me laughing out loud! #

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Or a lot more than that. Here are some quick numbers I grabbed. Please correct if they are not accurate.

Apple has about 93,000 employees.
In 2013 they made $171,000,000,000 in revenue with $37,000,000,000 in profit. Profit.
If they take just one billion of that and give it to the employees for, I don't know, being the actual people who made that happen. For investing their lives into being a part of the Apple machine that did all of this, that would be $10,750 per employee. (I'm pretty sure the 2014 numbers are even better).

Instead, they got a backpack :(

I really don't care if you stock stuff in the warehouse or machine prototypes. I think you should give to those who devote day after day and week after week to making the money that company is swimming in. If others deserve more, you can take another billion and dole that out to the executives or whoever.

There is a company from India that gives out houses, cars and jewelry to its employees. Why doesn't a company that approaches $40,000,000,000 a year in profit do something similar.

Are your employees really your greatest asset?

Wow you're acting like an entitled little brat. I am 100% certain that those employees are compensated well over 10k per year with a VERY competitive salary package, stock options plans, 401k and other retirement plans, etc. It is a Xmas gift as a little extra, it's not meant to be part if their compensation package, nor should it be expected to be. What a joke of a post this is.
 
The article I referenced was the first hit in a Google search and actually referenced the article you cited in drawing its conclusion regarding the lack of corporate governance at Apple. In fact, the title of the article to which you provided a link is entitled "Apple yields to governance reform call".

As documented in your citation, Apple only improved its corporate governance when a large pension fund investor pressured Apple's management to do so. Metaphorically speaking, mouthing the right words after an extended battle and then only with a financial gun pointed to your head, doesn't exactly equate to corporate character or industry leadership. In fact, this behavior suggests just the opposite.

Thank you for proving my point...

Wow, your pot just keeps getting blacker and blacker. Let me point out your many errors.

First, the article you cited was posted on Feb 6 2012. It cites a FT article from Feb 5 2012 titled "Apple Under Pressure Over Board Elections. The article that I cited was an article from Feb 23 2012 titled Apple Yields to Governance Call. So you were 100% wrong in your claims above.

The only reason I responded to your post was because you attacked me, claiming that I hadn't done any research and saying that you hope my job doesn't require research skills. Clearly, you have no credibility to challenge anyone as you can't even figure out titles and dates. And I apologize for saying you scoured the internet when you just googled and took the first result that came up. Nice researching there.

And I still fail to see how any of this refutes my point. I said that none of the people who have become rich off of Apple were asking to take away Tim's financial incentives to grow the company. This stupid argument (I use that term loosely because you have not argued anything other than posting an irrelevant, outdated article) does't remotely challenge my assertion.

I can now see than it is not possible to have a meaningful discussion with you. I have better things to do that point out how wrong someone is (repeatedly). Given the maturity level of your posts I would assume that you will need the last word here, so feel free to justify yourself, but given the lack of credibility you have shown, I feel no need to reply. This conversation can serve no purpose anymore. Goodbye.

Oh, and to the one guy who upvoted you, you should feel pretty foolish.
 
I would hate to work for any company that treated it's workforce in such a cheesy way.

Mind you the other side of the coin is that here in the UK the BBC are doing an Exposé on how Apple treats it's manufacturing workforce in the Far East this coming Thursday. From the clips I've seen it makes for uncomfortable viewing.

I assume you mean how Apple's Chinese suppliers are treating their employees? Keep in mind that none of those suppliers are Apple, nor do they only do work exclusively for Apple. Also keep in mind that Apple does more than any other pf those Chinese suppliers' customers to ensure that the working environment is as good as it can be given they have very little real control over compliance with their supplier work environment guidelines. Nobody else is spending the money and resources Apple does in auditing for compliance.
 
that is so lame! company of this magnitude gives this junk - that they buy at $10 at most a piece in mass quantity. how about free iPhone/ipod touch or at least $300 gift certificate?

that rivals this article:
http://www.bbc.com/capital/story/20141205-the-worst-bonuses-ever

What? Your post is so lame! No it doesn't rival those gifts. While not amazing it is an Ok gift.

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I would hate to work for any company that treated it's workforce in such a cheesy way.

Mind you the other side of the coin is that here in the UK the BBC are doing an Exposé on how Apple treats it's manufacturing workforce in the Far East this coming Thursday. From the clips I've seen it makes for uncomfortable viewing.

Mind you its apple, Sony, Nintendo etc etc etc
 
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