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Oh for goodness sakes. Most companies give their staff nothing. I bet you guys throw your toys across the room at your mother on Christmas morning because they just aren't good enough for you. Grow up!.

Well, you probably live in the US where capitalism really sucks. The only place where I ever worked that give its employees nothing for Christmas were the United Nations. Every other shop gave something at the end of the year, sometimes even a 13th salary.

That being said - I'm surprised that Apple employees have to pay for a "service" like Apple Music at all. It's rather cheap of them to charge their own staff for something like that. Google hands out Nexus phones to all their employees and Apple charges them for an online subscription service? I know on whose payroll I'd rather be.
 
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As a paying customer I think Apple Music is way better than any other service except for the UI design. Can you tell us what you think is so terrible about it?

The main one is the UI.

It cannot be better than any other service till they fix the awful UI and navigation. The UI alone made me use it for about 5 days of my three months and sign up for Spotify .
 
I'd be happy with those gifts - My family quite likes Apple Music - suits us just fine. Bash all you want, they didn't have to do anything, and yet for some thats not enough.

The people I work for do nothing, no festive thank you. Doesn't bother me.
 
Google actually does have the matching feature. "Live" radio is just radio isn't it? I always thought that it was funny that they announced a 24 hour live station as a big deal. I've got dozens of those on my FM dial already thanks. Human curation? Yeah I guess you have a point there, but the benefit is marginal at best. I still hear the same crap on Beats that I hear everywhere else.

Google Music also comes with YouTube Red which is nice.

Not trying to say that Google Music is necessarily better, but the two aren't that different.

Google play has human curated playlists. Some of updated weekly or quarterly.
 
As a paying customer I think Apple Music is way better than any other service except for the UI design. Can you tell us what you think is so terrible about it?

iTunes Match mess
navigating
the whole for you section is a whole mess of endless scrolling with no pattern whatsoever
playlist catalogue isnt very transparent, love the way spotify does it
u cant even share playlists or songs straight through am to friends (as far as i know)
id like to see what my friends listen to for ideas
it doesnt "get" my music taste at all
how does one remove faved stars on iOS?
list goes on and on
 
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...Employees will receive an Apple Music promo code later this month, which will allow them to activate their free subscriptions...

Wonder if the promo code will be transferable?

Would be interesting to see what the open market prices it at.
 
It's probably an indication on how many employee Apple ID's DIDN'T sign up for the three month trial. Too funny.

I know my brother, who works for corporate didn't bother with it. He likes to actually purchase music, and for good reason. His brother is in audio. ;)
 
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It's probably an indication on how many employee Apple ID's DIDN'T sign up for the three month trial. Too funny.

I know my brother, who works for corporate didn't bother with it. He likes to actually purchase music, and for good reason. His brother is in audio. ;)

Interesting thought. I imagine the Apple Music product managers would get excellent feedback from people who don't redeem their promo code. And since those people are employees, they'll feel obliged to give it if asked.

Is that what this is all about? Understanding resistance to the product? It does seem a bit odd coming after the "official" earbud gift. Why split gifts into two installments? That doesn't make any sense.
 
Only 9 months??? Can't afford a whole year for your terribly underpaid and overworked retail staff?

When I worked at Apple, any of their flagship services were free (except iTunes Match for some reason.)

They're getting greedy...
 
I would've thought Apple employees would get Apple products/services at a discount anyways. But why only 9 months??? Seems strange.
 
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9 month subscription gift?

You mean 6 month gift on your 3 month promo...

Greedy....
 

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That's mighty generous of them. I got far less than that for my 5 year anniversary gift from my company.

I was fired the week before my five year, and my plaque sat in the office for 3 months. The best gift I got was a coffee mug, and I just shattered it the other day. :oops:
 
As a paying customer I think Apple Music is way better than any other service except for the UI design. Can you tell us what you think is so terrible about it?
The UI. Which is hugely important part of any app, especially streaming apps with large libraries and complex navigation. It's a shame Rdio went tits up, as they always had the best UI.
 
Apple Music subscriptions for the employees cost the company NOTHING but server access cycles. The company looses nothing when additional individuals access the digital files (but a fraction or two electrical usage). Remember its all virtual. Having the retail employees being able to experience the Apple Music service will help them talk about the service to customers and help the employees understand issues when customers approach them with questions.

Its a total win for Apple executives since they will play with accounting practices and will write this non-cost as a business cost at full retail. The executives that came up with this accounting trick will then get a big fat bonus.

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In the mid 1990s I worked for MicroAge in their head quarters (before it went Chapter 11). We all got Dec 25th off (like most Americans). When we came into the offices the following day we each found an identical box on our desks with printing saying happy holiday. When we opened the boxes we saw a hard cover coffee table style book with wonderful color photos on nearly every page. It was a history of the company. Like most hard-cover books it had a professionally designed dust jacket, and as on most dust jackets was a price ($50). Naturally, these books did not cost the company $50 dollars retail. With over 5,000 employees, it likely cost the company less then $10 each to print these books. When I left the company, i did what all my coworkers did, and left the book on the shelf in my cubical for the next underpaid employee. Books like these are called vanity books.
Wrong
 
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Oh for goodness sakes. Most companies give their staff nothing. I bet you guys throw your toys across the room at your mother on Christmas morning because they just aren't good enough for you. Grow up!.

So you don't think retail workers deserve perks for being employees or bonuses for good performance? That's cold.
 
"Most companies give their staff nothing."

So you want Apple to be like most companies?

I bet you guys throw your toys across the room at your mother on Christmas morning because they just aren't good enough for you. Grow up!.

No, I expect companies to share their success with the folks that make them successful. I expect retail workers who don't get paid enough to buy every subscription and product offered to still use those products to give me informed decisions. I expect that a company sheltering money in Europe and with enough cash in American banks to buy most other companies to reward their employees. As a former employee of Apple retail I'm not just casually commenting on this, I'm speaking with a detailed and intricate understanding of a retail employee's full compensation package. As a stockholder, regular reader and enthusiast I'm speaking with authority on my knowledge of their infrastructure, contracts, liabilities and abilities and as a compassionate human I'm speaking about doing what is right for the people who often work the hardest for the smallest compensation. If that isn't grown up to you, then maybe you need to reevaluate your definition of maturity.
 
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I was fired the week before my five year, and my plaque sat in the office for 3 months. The best gift I got was a coffee mug, and I just shattered it the other day. :oops:

Ouch! And to think some posters on here are deriding Apple's holiday gift to its employees. Either they work for companies that are far more generous or they haven't experienced the real world yet.
 
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So you want Apple to be like most companies?



No, I expect companies to share their success with the folks that make them successful. I expect retail workers who don't get paid enough to buy every subscription and product offered to still use those products to give me informed decisions. I expect that a company sheltering money in Europe and with enough cash in American banks to buy most other companies to reward their employees. As a former employee of Apple retail I'm not just casually commenting on this, I'm speaking with a detailed and intricate understanding of a retail employee's full compensation package. As a stockholder, regular reader and enthusiast I'm speaking with authority on my knowledge of their infrastructure, contracts, liabilities and abilities and as a compassionate human I'm speaking about doing what is right for the people who often work the hardest for the smallest compensation. If that isn't grown up to you, then maybe you need to reevaluate your definition of maturity.


You have completely misunderstood what I said LOL. Apple has given its staff a Christmas gift. That's great. They don't have to do that. As I said, most employers don't give their staff anything at Christmas. The ones that do, like Apple, are showing that they appreciate their employees, no matter how small the gift may be. The value of a gift is irrelevant, it's the thought that counts. Sadly several people here used this thread as another excuse to bash Apple. To me they came across as immature spoilt brats. Hence my comment about throwing toys.
 
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I was fired the week before my five year, and my plaque sat in the office for 3 months. The best gift I got was a coffee mug, and I just shattered it the other day. :oops:
I had a similar experience from AT&T. I got a gold 5 year pin and a notice that they were downsizing and my job was being eliminated on the same day. Gee, thanks guys.
 
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You have completely misunderstood what I said LOL. Apple has given its staff a Christmas gift. That's great. They don't have to do that. As I said, most employers don't give their staff anything at Christmas. The ones that do, like Apple, are showing that they appreciate their employees, no matter how small the gift may be. The value of a gift is irrelevant, it's the thought that counts. Sadly several people here used this thread as another excuse to bash Apple. To me they came across as immature spoilt brats. Hence my comment about throwing toys.
I see what you're saying. I'm still a little jaded because having worked for one of the most profitable companies in the world, we were terribly underpaid. (Check out what your Apple retail folks get paid at GlassDoor.)

The internal perks were always a little low, although appreciated. Most years they gave away an Apple branded hoodie for Christmas. Most of us would have really loved one of those "Christmas Bonus Checks" that we heard customers in our stores talking about. They would buy new computers with a bonus check, we'd run out to our cars fighting holiday mall traffic after work wearing our hoodies. It seemed unfair, so my post is probably laden with that resentment.
 
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