All you folks whining about the raise not keeping up with inflation…did you read the entire article and see that “regular” raises are given out in October? This 2 to 10 (or14) percent is not their entire raise for the year.
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Apple Giving Many U.S. Retail Employees Raises
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Well at the same time I assume your American colleagues would also have much higher salary. ( Although the gap is closing due to remote work ). I mean Tech job in US on average is nearly double than that in UK or EUR. MAMAA fresh grad are $150K+.
No we are at 100% parity. To be fair that's because the US is paid less than industry average as they're not in SF or somewhere trendy and we're paid more because we're in London.
I also wondered if a specific number of sick days was normal. In my job if we have no sick days that's just it for us. The only limit we have is the amount of hours we have left. For example I know some people who took 3 months of sick leave. For vacation we get 3 weeks for 3 years and up. After 10 years we get 4 weeks of vacation.
These CPI Percentages are flat out misleading. The actual CPI is around 15.63% YoY. These raises should be much higher.
A reliable measurement for the Consumer Price Index would be contingent upon maintaining consistency, avoiding changes to any of the details.
Sadly, Congress cut a deal with the Administration in the 1990’s, which fundamentally changed the consumer price index. Among other things, BLS can now make swaps of individual items tracked - things like replacing Steak with Hamburgers as an alternative if steak rises faster than average - considering changes a consumer might make. They could change the type of store to track, swapping Safeway, or Kroger for Wal-Mart, Aldi, Foods Co.
It now paints a rosier picture than the previous calculation method. A lower CPI means lower CPI-driven adjustments for entitlements such as social security, SNAP, etc.
From shadowstats.com:
• January 2022 CPI-U annual inflation hit 7.48% [up from 7.04% in December], the steepest inflation pace since February 1982 (in 40 years); the ShadowStats “Corrected” Alternate CPI estimate hit 15.63% [up from 15.15% in December], the steepest inflation rate since June 1947 (in 75 years).
Details of the House GOP/Clinton Administration CPI changes
A reliable measurement for the Consumer Price Index would be contingent upon maintaining consistency, avoiding changes to any of the details.
Sadly, Congress cut a deal with the Administration in the 1990’s, which fundamentally changed the consumer price index. Among other things, BLS can now make swaps of individual items tracked - things like replacing Steak with Hamburgers as an alternative if steak rises faster than average - considering changes a consumer might make. They could change the type of store to track, swapping Safeway, or Kroger for Wal-Mart, Aldi, Foods Co.
It now paints a rosier picture than the previous calculation method. A lower CPI means lower CPI-driven adjustments for entitlements such as social security, SNAP, etc.
From shadowstats.com:
• January 2022 CPI-U annual inflation hit 7.48% [up from 7.04% in December], the steepest inflation pace since February 1982 (in 40 years); the ShadowStats “Corrected” Alternate CPI estimate hit 15.63% [up from 15.15% in December], the steepest inflation rate since June 1947 (in 75 years).
Details of the House GOP/Clinton Administration CPI changes
What irks me about this comment is the passive aggressive suggestion that Apple retail is an ‘after high school job’ and so ‘good value’ for wages.
While it doesn’t require a degree it’s hardly a job for just 17 year olds, it’s a demanding and often frustrating and challenging workplace across the entire company.
Your ready derision of other workers rights has been noted.
I guess these pay rates are good if you live in a low cost of living state but there is no way in hell someone can live on $21-$24/hr in California. Rent in a crappy apartment can easily be >$2K / mo. I won't even talk about electricity or gasoline costs in CA. Apple should be paying relative to the cost of living. They used to do that in Silicon Valley -- people were making huge amounts of money because it cost 3x more to live there.
The employees seem less and less efficient. Two weeks ago I went to the Apple store to get a watch and got there before they opened to stand in line at 9:50. I learned I was #1 in the queue for watches but was told to come back at 10:30. I came back and was allowed in the store, then waited another 30 minutes to get helped. So a full hour before I could even start. Meanwhile I saw plenty of Apple employees talking or scurrying around. Then a few days later I came back to exchange the watch band (the small/medium size is actually large, and the large is gigantic). This simple exchange also took nearly an hour. I ended up having to return the watch and rebuy it, and turn off Find My, etc. Highly inefficient operation.
Apple could be paying their front line retail staff $150k and comments such as the above would still find their way into a thread about apple.
someone i know got 7.5% which was a little over 1.00 raise. she was already making 20.00 an hour too. SHOOOT from what i heared NEW hires are already making 20 an hour and she's been with the company over 10 years. lets not forget the 180k apple was giving in stocks to engineers
Yeah, yeah.
Keep it to yourself. Nobody cares what you think. I'd rather live in the US than in Europe any day.
I never said working for Apple in the US is better than working for Apple in the UK. I said making the generalization that working any job in the US is terrible based off of examining how one company treats its retail workers is ignorant.
White collar jobs in the US are more common and have significantly higher pay than anywhere else in the world. If you had a job like that and had experience with looking for employment opportunities in other countries (or, better yet, had colleagues in other countries) this would be immediately apparent. I forgot, this is the internet though: "America bad!!"
Europe isn’t a country, you would have to be more precise. For instance, right now I am sitting in Germany and if I walk my dog 200 meters (literally) I am in the Czech Republic. Completely different world
I feel prices have gone up nearly 10% since January. What was their raise in October?
IMO it's time to look for a new job now, regardless of where you work. You're more likely than ever to get a worthwhile raise or other improvement by doing so. Even I'm looking despite having a very nice job already.
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I'd rather live in Europe... if I planned to work a base-level job in an Apple retail store my entire life.
Nobody would take the job if it weren't viable. Maybe some of them aren't living off those jobs, but ~$40K/year in CA is actually livable when you consider welfare and net 0 tax rate. Still a rough life.
In Silicon Valley they probably pay more. Even In n' Out here pays $19/hr min starting wage.
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Kind of like macOS. You get the whole package. Maybe somewhere else you get more benefits at work but I can chew gum without getting caned. Or steal and walk away with both my hands. Maybe I’m paying less taxes and get to take home more of my income (property).
Many won't. They just want to be outraged at Apple and rant.
And I am currently living in Malta, have lived in Poland, Finland, Sweden and one other country.
I'd choose the US over all of those countries.
If you have lived on the other side of the CZ, near Cracow then we might have been neighbours.
And by the way, each state in the US feels like a different country.
Does one require longer parental leave than the other?
USA is one country, but it's huge. Visiting Texas right now, it feels like a different country than California.
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