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What Americans call "benefits", Europeans call "standards".
So you know your source, the same author says "Let's talk about revolutionary optimism and what it can do for us" with a picture of a CCP(?) propaganda poster here. There's also "The CIA is a T*rr*rist Organization" and something about the Cuba protests being fake news. Top comments say how they keep watching the videos cause of how angry it makes them.

I'm not here to discuss those topics, just, know your source.
 
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Here in Finland salesperson after graduating from vocational business college after 3 years gets 11€/hr ($12,48).

Gummybears does not go even….
 
Here in Finland salesperson after graduating from vocational business college after 3 years gets 11€/hr ($12,48).

Gummybears does not go even….
Finland is also expensive and the US is way better for the minorities for example.
https://yle.fi/news/3-12198076 - I've known a Finn that had to change his surname in order to get a job as well.
11€ is a very low salary if you live in bigger cities. It might kind of okay-ish in Eastern Finland. It's a totally different subject anyway, but I'm tired of people bashing the US and saying Europe is wayyyy better. Also, many salesperson's job in Finland are part-time and in some parts of Finland you have to be fluent in Swedish as well.

I just replied to this, because I want Americans to know that they're not doing as bad as people claim and I'd still live in the US over any European country.
 
Maybe I should forward this to my workplace! ?

I think there's a big difference between a company with billions sitting in cash, and a much smaller company fighting to survive year to year.

Keeping up with inflation is a bar minimum for salaries, though. That's good.
 
It’s payback from industries that got hit hard during the lockdowns as well as people trying to make a quick buck. The market will adjust soon and a lot of people will be in deep trouble, zeroing out those gains. The delusion is worse than ‘08.
Sorry I’m dense, apparently. Can you please expand on that thought? I can’t figure out whether to agree or disagree with it. :/
 
Considering the rise of inflation, they are probably still making less than they did a few years ago.
The union I am with asked for 5% annually (2 years "contract"), which isn't even enough to cover the 7.1% inflation here, employers only wanna go as far as 1.4%, bunch of D***heads.
Even worse, they made plenty/record money, even through the Covid times.
 
As someone who lived both in Europe and the US - yes, that’s decent. It takes some getting used to not having 30 days of vacation time. The pay is decisively better though
Is it really?

Consider that lots of Europeans (especially North Europeans) have social security and health care included, afaik most Americans have limited acces of both.

BTW, I have 45 days off and 2 years max sick leave amongst lots of other perks most have where I reside.
 
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So you know your source, the same author says "Let's talk about revolutionary optimism and what it can do for us" with a picture of a CCP(?) propaganda poster.
There's also "The CIA is a T*rr*rist Organization" and something about the Cuba protests being fake news. Top comments say how they keep watching the videos cause of how angry it makes them.

Full-time and Part -time Benefits - Denmark vs. United States​

 
Is it really?

Consider that lots of Europeans (especially North Europeans) have social security and health care included, afaik most Americans have limited acces of both.

BTW, I have 45 days off and 2 years max sick leave amongst lots of other perks most have where I reside.
A lot of jobs here come with healthcare. Any company with >50 employees basically has to cover 95% of their full-time staff (or get fined). Of course, many people aren't technically "full-time" or don't have employer-provided coverage for other reasons.

In the multinational corp I work at as a software engineer, the same company would pay me less per day if I did the same job in Europe. I put it this way since comparing annual pay doesn't make sense when they get more time off. I get healthcare either way.
 
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Finland is also expensive and the US is way better for the minorities for example.
https://yle.fi/news/3-12198076 - I've known a Finn that had to change his surname in order to get a job as well.
11€ is a very low salary if you live in bigger cities. It might kind of okay-ish in Eastern Finland. It's a totally different subject anyway, but I'm tired of people bashing the US and saying Europe is wayyyy better. Also, many salesperson's job in Finland are part-time and in some parts of Finland you have to be fluent in Swedish as well.

I just replied to this, because I want Americans to know that they're not doing as bad as people claim and I'd still live in the US over any European country.

You are 100% correct with everything you said! ? In my opinion the US is far better country than Finland, at least it’s not as ridiculous to get a job than it is in Finland. 99% of salesperson jobs in Finland are part-time as you said (4-25hr, 30hr tops). And if you don’t speak Swedish and English fluently you are immediately marked as scum of the earth. I graduated 22 months ago and haven’t been able to get a job or even get in an interview. In Finland you NEED to know someone, you NEED to have relations and connections, you NEED to have someone who recommends you. Without those you’re screwed. In Finland people with masters degree are unemployed because they can’t even get a cashier job in a grocery store. In 2020 I sent 400 applications in 8 months, what I achieved by doing that? Absolutely nothing, zero, nada. I was a main cashier 7 months straight when I was studying, and got 6 thank-you letters from customers who loved me. Those thank-you letters and good feedback have zero value in Finland, zero.

I even have programming background when I used to do UX-developing on iTunes, submitted it to deviantArt and I received a Daily Deviation badge for it and my skin for iTunes was downloaded 1.5 million times. So I can also handle tech and computers.

What’s the value of all this knowledge and background in Finland? Zero!
 
Are these considered good employee benefits in the US? 12 sick days, six weeks parental leave and part time staff “now” entitled to annual leave? Man, it must suck to have a job in America.
These are excellent employee benefits for retail—you don’t need any sort of qualifications to get these jobs
 
Not much of a nose for business, eh?

Apple consistently has the highest sales per square foot of ANY retailer, by a wide margin. That’s exactly why they have as many retail stores as they do and would probably add a bunch more if it’s feasible. Those stores make money hand over fist. Retail employee pay their salary with the very first sale of every shift. Apple stores are the busiest retail stores of any mall or shopping area by a wide margin. They wouldn’t lose overhead, they’d lose a huge amount of revenue.

Who is stupid enough to walk into an Apple store? You answered your own question with your last statement. The reason it took so long for you to leave was because everyone was at the store shopping. All of the people you see in those stores are the ones not savy enough or comfortable enough to shop online, or don’t have enough understanding of what they need to purchase. Most consumers aren’t tech nerds—hell, most have marginal understanding of tech.
Not to mention that amount of draw that bolsters businesses around the Apple Store.

I wonder… does Apple get PAID to open a retail store in an area? ?
 
What industry gave him 16+ days of bankable sick pay a year?
Meh, I have 53 weeks of sick leave accumulated over 12 years of work. ??‍♂️

I also have 6 weeks of vacation days saved. Mind you, I just used 4 weeks over Dec-Jan.

In 3 years, when I have worked 15 years, I’ll also get 6 months of leave.

I’m from Canada, but live in Australia. ?? As far as work conditions, it can be soooo much better here.
 
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I guess these pay rates are good if you live in a low cost of living state but there is no way in hell someone can live on $21-$24/hr in California. Rent in a crappy apartment can easily be >$2K / mo. I won't even talk about electricity or gasoline costs in CA. Apple should be paying relative to the cost of living. They used to do that in Silicon Valley -- people were making huge amounts of money because it cost 3x more to live there.
Do people have a right to live alone, necessitating a compensation level by which they could afford to live alone? That’s what these sorts of comments seem to always assume. “Living wage” is an elastic term based on various factors, including whether or not people are married, have children, live alone or with roommates/family, etc. It seems to be more a political term than an economic one. It can’t reasonably be meant to mean “whatever it takes to finance your choice of lifestyle”. But then you get into peoples habits and extracurriculars, and we’re getting off track. Just an observation.
 
Good. They probably don’t earn a packet. Unlike Timmy, who can let his millions of Apple shares do his work for him.
 
A lot of jobs here come with healthcare. Any company with >50 employees basically has to cover 95% of their full-time staff (or get fined). Of course, many people aren't technically "full-time" or don't have employer-provided coverage for other reasons.

In the multinational corp I work at as a software engineer, the same company would pay me less per day if I did the same job in Europe. I put it this way since comparing annual pay doesn't make sense when they get more time off. I get healthcare either way.
Since when do jobs come WITH FREE health care in the US? Most companies like Apple, when you join, you have to go through several options (health benefits), none of them are “free”. And assuming your company does include basic health coverage with no additional cost, how much would you pay out-of-pocket if your broke a leg? Had a baby with C-section? Kidney surgery? This is what Americans don’t get! In Europe, it doesn’t really matter if you have the flu or cancer, you won’t pay anything extra. Here you pay extra on each paycheck, plus deductible, up to out-of-pocket maximum before the insurance reimburses 100%. For my family, last year, in the US I was paying an extra “tax” - that’s what it is - of $3500 for the year (charged biweekly on my paycheck) plus out-of-pocket of $2500. That’s a 10% tax for health insurance! And that’s very good insurance with low out-of-pocket maximum. Also paychecks may be higher, but take the number of vacation days and sick days out of the picture, and see how much is the pay per hour WORKED!
And let me get this straight here, Americans are not workaholic, they have NO CHOICE! When you’ve painfully accumulated 4 weeks of vacation after working hard for over two years, no one wants to leave for more than a weekend for fear that the project you’re working on will be given to someone else on the team. Taking a vacation is still considered a bad professional move!
 
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Have ZERO skills and get $24-$25/hr? Sounds like a sweet deal to me. Why bother getting a degree, being smart, and actually producing intellectual labor making the same or less? I don't see how any of this is sustainable, most people do not buy Apple devices from Apple stores... how are those employees contributing to income for the company.
 
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