I worked with financial documents back in the day and saw many of their tax returns. Very low salaries and only comparable with other retail companies, which would be fine if we were talking about H&M or Zara here.what are you talking about? read some of the wage posts here — i don't think that's laughable for the type of work they do. i've honestly never seen a suffering apple employee. in fact most of them seem to really like their job. must be the koolaid...
People are fast and loose when it is not their money.Not saying the bonus is a bad thing, just saying they should be doing more.
ok, having briefly worked for vzw — it didn't feel that way. however if you're just saying "recruit from within" i'm sure that apple will give you a list of cases that match just that. i suppose the question is — how often does something like that happen.It’s not a question of common. It’s that they don’t actively recruit their employees but they use promotions to lure people into retail.
But since you asked I know for a fact that Delta, VZW, and P&G recruit from within.
If people don't like their jobs, then let them leave. Pretty simple concept.google AppleToo and let me know how much staff likes their jobs![]()
I started at over $15/hr at an Apple Store back in 2005. Was making more than that when I left 5 years later.
ok, i haven't(worked with financial documents), but what i'm reading in this thread doesn't match what you're saying, at least at this day in age. also, as you deal with financials, what is h&m's revenue compared to apple's? or zara for that matter.I worked with financial documents back in the day and saw many of their tax returns. Very low salaries and only comparable with other retail companies, which would be fine if we were talking about H&M or Zara here.
I am not saying a company can't hire from outside. But if you have a large pool of entry-level employees it's worth making the opening know to them before you start recruiting outside the company. Trying to find a fit internally first goes a long way towards taking care of your people. I worked at VZW pre-iPhone and (at least at that time) internal changes were highly preferred over new employees. It makes sense though since you know far more about someone who has been with the company for a year plus than you do someone who was recommended by a recruiter or saw a posting. I am not talking about executive jobs. Those seem to be who you know regardless of industry.ok, having briefly worked for vzw — it didn't feel that way. however if you're just saying "recruit from within" i'm sure that apple will give you a list of cases that match just that. i suppose the question is — how often does something like that happen.
You have no idea what you're talking about.I worked with financial documents back in the day and saw many of their tax returns. Very low salaries and only comparable with other retail companies, which would be fine if we were talking about H&M or Zara here.
Meanwhile in my area they're giving school bus drivers $3000 sign-on bonuses.
Maybe its because they will get it so taxed almost 40% will be gone. There's always a catch...just like the last "bonus" $2500 in RESTRICTED stock that takes 3 years to vest....ask the employees what its like to see half your RSU's disappear the same day in taxes.......it blow!!!! Another case of unless your eon the inside you really have no business commenting, or defending the company......The make record profits the last 18-20 months all thanks to the retail staff...$1000 is a joke compared to the billions the company made....Ask employees about their mental health the last 24 or so months....and the stresses that have been working for Apple retail and I promise you 99% will agree $1000 is a joke
30/hr is a start
One would have to be fairly privileged to think that you can simply quit a job you don't like.If people don't like their jobs, then let them leave. Pretty simple concept.
Clearly, you might have to re-read some of the replies even here. $11.50 an hour, which is not so great and only meets the minimum wage requirements in some states.ok, i haven't(worked with financial documents), but what i'm reading in this thread doesn't match what you're saying, at least at this day in age. also, as you deal with financials, what is h&m's revenue compared to apple's? or zara for that matter.
one could strive to find a better job, if they didn't like theirs. or do you need to be fairly privileged for that too?One would have to be fairly privileged to think that you can simply quit a job you don't like.
Meanwhile Tim Cook got a billion dollar stock bonus.
No one should have a billion dollars. Let alone a single bonus worth that much
just say you hate apple bro, our entire store is laughing at your comment, we are okay in the last 24 months thanks for asking. we make good money and have superb benefitsMaybe its because they will get it so taxed almost 40% will be gone. There's always a catch...just like the last "bonus" $2500 in RESTRICTED stock that takes 3 years to vest....ask the employees what its like to see half your RSU's disappear the same day in taxes.......it blow!!!! Another case of unless your eon the inside you really have no business commenting, or defending the company......The make record profits the last 18-20 months all thanks to the retail staff...$1000 is a joke compared to the billions the company made....Ask employees about their mental health the last 24 or so months....and the stresses that have been working for Apple retail and I promise you 99% will agree $1000 is a joke
well, you mentioned those brands as a comparison, so i figured there was a reason for that...Clearly, you might have to re-read some of the replies even here. $11.50 an hour, which is not so great and only meets the minimum wage requirements in some states.
I’m pretty sure you can find the revenue numbers online. Moreover, it wasn’t even my point. Regardless of the revenue levels of the aforementioned companies, one doesn’t need to have any technical knowledge to work in fashion retail, as opposed to working at Apple. Therefore, those salaries are supposed reflect that difference as well.
It turns out it is pretty easy to do a search on the internet for Apple retail store wages. Looks like they start in the $20/hour range and go up from there with some Apple Genius being paid upwards of $35/hour. These are not the low wage retail jobs that some might be imagining. Don't get me wrong, a raise is always good but then so is a $1000 bonus.
EDIT: Clarification, the wages quoted above are from Canada. Obviously wages will vary in different regions.
The comment wasn't to look for a new job but to quit the one they have. Most people can't afford to quit because they are unhappy.one could strive to find a better job, if they didn't like theirs. or do you need to be fairly privileged for that too?
$20 CAD is $15 USD and is less than what McDonalds and Walmart pay.It turns out it is pretty easy to do a search on the internet for Apple retail store wages. Looks like they start in the $20/hour range and go up from there with some Apple Genius being paid upwards of $35/hour. These are not the low wage retail jobs that some might be imagining. Don't get me wrong, a raise is always good but then so is a $1000 bonus.
EDIT: Clarification, the wages quoted above are from Canada. Obviously wages will vary in different regions.
One would have to be fairly arrogant to call someone privileged on an anonymous internet board. People have been critical of Apple's bonus and pay. It's amazing how fast and loose people are with others money. That's what I call privileged. Especially if you are making comparable wages or better to scale. Don't like your job. Quit...and find a new one. Or, if one doesn't like that advice just don't follow it.One would have to be fairly privileged to think that you can simply quit a job you don't like.
i'm really out of context here, but i don't see why apple wouldn't want to hire a striving 'genius' if they saw one. my personal experience is roughly 8/10 'geniuses' i've dealt with over the years, both in-store and phone support, knew less than i did about how to solve the issue i was having. the only exception is when there were straight up hardware failures.I am not saying a company can't hire from outside. But if you have a large pool of entry-level employees it's worth making the opening know to them before you start recruiting outside the company. Trying to find a fit internally first goes a long way towards taking care of your people. I worked at VZW pre-iPhone and (at least at that time) internal changes were highly preferred over new employees. It makes sense though since you know far more about someone who has been with the company for a year plus than you do someone who was recommended by a recruiter or saw a posting. I am not talking about executive jobs. Those seem to be who you know regardless of industry.
This is not a forum reply competition. Try Epic and their Fornite type of entertainment for that. That would require a non-Apple device though HAHAwell, you mentioned those brands as a comparison, so i figured there was a reason for that...
i'm pretty sure the 11.50 was from years ago, but i'm not going to look for that post.
most apple store employees have about as much tech knowledge as the ones working at h&m — fashion. maybe a little bit more, but not enough to be a dealbreaker. the bottom line is — they need to know what they're selling.
i'm sorry, but your first comment directed at me felt a lot more solid, this one is just meh...
No. No, it wouldn't be arrogant to call some privileged for thinking everyone can quit if they are unhappy.One would have to be fairly arrogant to call someone privileged on an anonymous internet board. People have been critical of Apple's bonus and pay. It's amazing how fast and loose people are with others money. That's what I call privileged. Especially if you are making comparable wages or better to scale.
one doesn't contradict the other, does it now?The comment wasn't to look for a new job but to quit the one they have. Most people can't afford to quit because they are unhappy.