Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
They could be better they could also be worse… lots of retail places hire next to no full time, outsource, use contractors, etc… it helps a lot that they are directly employed by Apple for their resumes
 
  • Like
Reactions: alexandr
what are you talking about? read some of the wage posts here — i don't think that's laughable for the type of work they do. i've honestly never seen a suffering apple employee. in fact most of them seem to really like their job. must be the koolaid...
I worked with financial documents back in the day and saw many of their tax returns. Very low salaries and only comparable with other retail companies, which would be fine if we were talking about H&M or Zara here.
 
It turns out it is pretty easy to do a search on the internet for Apple retail store wages. Looks like they start in the $20/hour range and go up from there with some Apple Genius being paid upwards of $35/hour. These are not the low wage retail jobs that some might be imagining. Don't get me wrong, a raise is always good but then so is a $1000 bonus.

EDIT: Clarification, the wages quoted above are from Canada. Obviously wages will vary in different regions.
 
Last edited:
It’s not a question of common. It’s that they don’t actively recruit their employees but they use promotions to lure people into retail.

But since you asked I know for a fact that Delta, VZW, and P&G recruit from within.
ok, having briefly worked for vzw — it didn't feel that way. however if you're just saying "recruit from within" i'm sure that apple will give you a list of cases that match just that. i suppose the question is — how often does something like that happen.
 
  • Like
Reactions: KeithBN
I worked with financial documents back in the day and saw many of their tax returns. Very low salaries and only comparable with other retail companies, which would be fine if we were talking about H&M or Zara here.
ok, i haven't(worked with financial documents), but what i'm reading in this thread doesn't match what you're saying, at least at this day in age. also, as you deal with financials, what is h&m's revenue compared to apple's? or zara for that matter.
 
  • Like
Reactions: KeithBN
ok, having briefly worked for vzw — it didn't feel that way. however if you're just saying "recruit from within" i'm sure that apple will give you a list of cases that match just that. i suppose the question is — how often does something like that happen.
I am not saying a company can't hire from outside. But if you have a large pool of entry-level employees it's worth making the opening know to them before you start recruiting outside the company. Trying to find a fit internally first goes a long way towards taking care of your people. I worked at VZW pre-iPhone and (at least at that time) internal changes were highly preferred over new employees. It makes sense though since you know far more about someone who has been with the company for a year plus than you do someone who was recommended by a recruiter or saw a posting. I am not talking about executive jobs. Those seem to be who you know regardless of industry.
 
Meanwhile in my area they're giving school bus drivers $3000 sign-on bonuses.

That is because no one wants to drive busses and it has been a huge problem for school districts that is only getting worse. That has nothing to do with Apple giving a thank you bonus for service during the pandemic (which 99% of other companies did not do).

Maybe its because they will get it so taxed almost 40% will be gone. There's always a catch...just like the last "bonus" $2500 in RESTRICTED stock that takes 3 years to vest....ask the employees what its like to see half your RSU's disappear the same day in taxes.......it blow!!!! Another case of unless your eon the inside you really have no business commenting, or defending the company......The make record profits the last 18-20 months all thanks to the retail staff...$1000 is a joke compared to the billions the company made....Ask employees about their mental health the last 24 or so months....and the stresses that have been working for Apple retail and I promise you 99% will agree $1000 is a joke

What does the US tax system have to do with it? Is it Apple's fault that 40% will be gone? It doesn't "blow" when you pay taxes, it "blows" that the tax rate is as high as it is. People who don't understand their money and the basic tax structure are caught off guard and may get upset but that is only their own fault for not learning more and being responsible. The internet has a LOT to teach, and not just there for forums and and cat videos.

Looking at "$1,000 is a joke compared to the billions the company made"....the company doesn't owe the employees more than a wage. By your logic then a company who looses billions should split and charge all their employees for the lost money? Or is it only a one way street?

If you take the Forbes 500 list, what percentage paid out ANY compensation as a thank you for service during the pandemic? It might reach 2%? Why not direct your outrage for the 98% that did nothing rather than the 2% that did something?

30/hr is a start

It certainly is a start, but not for a job that a high school dropout could perform at. What skills exactly do you believe warrant $30/hr or are you basing that number just on the idea that people deserve things without offering their own value to the equation?
 
ok, i haven't(worked with financial documents), but what i'm reading in this thread doesn't match what you're saying, at least at this day in age. also, as you deal with financials, what is h&m's revenue compared to apple's? or zara for that matter.
Clearly, you might have to re-read some of the replies even here. $11.50 an hour, which is not so great and only meets the minimum wage requirements in some states.
I’m pretty sure you can find the revenue numbers online. Moreover, it wasn’t even my point. Regardless of the revenue levels of the aforementioned companies, one doesn’t need to have any technical knowledge to work in fashion retail, as opposed to working at Apple. Therefore, those salaries are supposed reflect that difference as well.
 
  • Like
Reactions: ronntaylor
Meanwhile Tim Cook got a billion dollar stock bonus.
No one should have a billion dollars. Let alone a single bonus worth that much

Having a billion dollars in company stock is not the same as the same as having a billion dollars. I'm not even sure there's a single billionaire that actually has a billion dollars in cash.

Stop counting other people's dollars.
 
  • Like
Reactions: KeithBN
Maybe its because they will get it so taxed almost 40% will be gone. There's always a catch...just like the last "bonus" $2500 in RESTRICTED stock that takes 3 years to vest....ask the employees what its like to see half your RSU's disappear the same day in taxes.......it blow!!!! Another case of unless your eon the inside you really have no business commenting, or defending the company......The make record profits the last 18-20 months all thanks to the retail staff...$1000 is a joke compared to the billions the company made....Ask employees about their mental health the last 24 or so months....and the stresses that have been working for Apple retail and I promise you 99% will agree $1000 is a joke
just say you hate apple bro, our entire store is laughing at your comment, we are okay in the last 24 months thanks for asking. we make good money and have superb benefits
 
Clearly, you might have to re-read some of the replies even here. $11.50 an hour, which is not so great and only meets the minimum wage requirements in some states.
I’m pretty sure you can find the revenue numbers online. Moreover, it wasn’t even my point. Regardless of the revenue levels of the aforementioned companies, one doesn’t need to have any technical knowledge to work in fashion retail, as opposed to working at Apple. Therefore, those salaries are supposed reflect that difference as well.
well, you mentioned those brands as a comparison, so i figured there was a reason for that...

i'm pretty sure the 11.50 was from years ago, but i'm not going to look for that post.

most apple store employees have about as much tech knowledge as the ones working at h&m — fashion. maybe a little bit more, but not enough to be a dealbreaker. the bottom line is — they need to know what they're selling.

i'm sorry, but your first comment directed at me felt a lot more solid, this one is just meh...
 
  • Like
Reactions: KeithBN
It turns out it is pretty easy to do a search on the internet for Apple retail store wages. Looks like they start in the $20/hour range and go up from there with some Apple Genius being paid upwards of $35/hour. These are not the low wage retail jobs that some might be imagining. Don't get me wrong, a raise is always good but then so is a $1000 bonus.

EDIT: Clarification, the wages quoted above are from Canada. Obviously wages will vary in different regions.

That certainly wasn’t my experience, but I suppose location plays a very large role.

It was harder to say goodbye to my coworkers (and the awesome employee discounts) than it was saying goodbye to my hour wage.

EDIT: I just saw your edit lol
 
  • Like
Reactions: Duane Martin
one could strive to find a better job, if they didn't like theirs. or do you need to be fairly privileged for that too?
The comment wasn't to look for a new job but to quit the one they have. Most people can't afford to quit because they are unhappy.
 
  • Haha
Reactions: Maconplasma
It turns out it is pretty easy to do a search on the internet for Apple retail store wages. Looks like they start in the $20/hour range and go up from there with some Apple Genius being paid upwards of $35/hour. These are not the low wage retail jobs that some might be imagining. Don't get me wrong, a raise is always good but then so is a $1000 bonus.

EDIT: Clarification, the wages quoted above are from Canada. Obviously wages will vary in different regions.
$20 CAD is $15 USD and is less than what McDonalds and Walmart pay.
 
One would have to be fairly privileged to think that you can simply quit a job you don't like.
One would have to be fairly arrogant to call someone privileged on an anonymous internet board. People have been critical of Apple's bonus and pay. It's amazing how fast and loose people are with others money. That's what I call privileged. Especially if you are making comparable wages or better to scale. Don't like your job. Quit...and find a new one. Or, if one doesn't like that advice just don't follow it.

I personally did just years ago when I worked for the world top 3 financial institutions.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Maconplasma
I am not saying a company can't hire from outside. But if you have a large pool of entry-level employees it's worth making the opening know to them before you start recruiting outside the company. Trying to find a fit internally first goes a long way towards taking care of your people. I worked at VZW pre-iPhone and (at least at that time) internal changes were highly preferred over new employees. It makes sense though since you know far more about someone who has been with the company for a year plus than you do someone who was recommended by a recruiter or saw a posting. I am not talking about executive jobs. Those seem to be who you know regardless of industry.
i'm really out of context here, but i don't see why apple wouldn't want to hire a striving 'genius' if they saw one. my personal experience is roughly 8/10 'geniuses' i've dealt with over the years, both in-store and phone support, knew less than i did about how to solve the issue i was having. the only exception is when there were straight up hardware failures.

many apple store staff members i've encountered were, unfriendly, uninterested and couldn't answer my questions(correctly). now, by many — i don't mean most, i am mostly fond of my apple store visits, what i'm trying to say is that a lot of these employees don't seem to want to grow and feel perfectly happy doing what they do.

i can't even say i blame them, from what i hear apple corporate is not the happiest place to work at, despite all the wonderful things apple has to offer.

anyway, not arguing with you, just sharing some observations)
 
well, you mentioned those brands as a comparison, so i figured there was a reason for that...

i'm pretty sure the 11.50 was from years ago, but i'm not going to look for that post.

most apple store employees have about as much tech knowledge as the ones working at h&m — fashion. maybe a little bit more, but not enough to be a dealbreaker. the bottom line is — they need to know what they're selling.

i'm sorry, but your first comment directed at me felt a lot more solid, this one is just meh...
This is not a forum reply competition. Try Epic and their Fornite type of entertainment for that. That would require a non-Apple device though HAHA
 
One would have to be fairly arrogant to call someone privileged on an anonymous internet board. People have been critical of Apple's bonus and pay. It's amazing how fast and loose people are with others money. That's what I call privileged. Especially if you are making comparable wages or better to scale.
No. No, it wouldn't be arrogant to call some privileged for thinking everyone can quit if they are unhappy.
 
  • Haha
Reactions: Maconplasma
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.