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i'm really out of context here, but i don't see why apple wouldn't want to hire a striving 'genius' if they saw one. my personal experience is roughly 8/10 'geniuses' i've dealt with over the years, both in-store and phone support, knew less than i did about how to solve the issue i was having. the only exception is when there were straight up hardware failures.

many apple store staff members i've encountered were, unfriendly, uninterested and couldn't answer my questions(correctly). now, by many — i don't mean most, i am mostly fond of my apple store visits, what i'm trying to say is that a lot of these employees don't seem to want to grow and feel perfectly happy doing what they do.

i can't even say i blame them, from what i hear apple corporate is not the happiest place to work at, despite all the wonderful things apple has to offer.

anyway, not arguing with you, just sharing some observations)
I have never worked for Apple Retail, but I know people that did. They were not tech-savvy people they were either business and humanities majors or couldn't afford college. They were recruited with the idea that they would have opportunities only available on the inside. After a while, I felt like their retail recruiting was borrowing a page from the US Army. Part of the issue might be that they grew so fast that they likely hired a lot of people that didn't care about the job or career development.

I met quite a few people working for Apple Retail that were not good at their job but they enjoyed people and hoped that they could persist long enough to get noticed. They didn't and eventually, they leave.
 
one doesn't contradict the other, does it now? :)
"If people don't like their jobs, then let them leave. Pretty simple concept." There is no mention of staying. One can not like their job, fight and complain to make it better and look for another job. But most people can't leave because they don't like it.

So yeah, their original comment contradicts what I said.
 
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Maybe its because they will get it so taxed almost 40% will be gone. There's always a catch...just like the last "bonus" $2500 in RESTRICTED stock that takes 3 years to vest....ask the employees what its like to see half your RSU's disappear the same day in taxes.......it blow!!!! Another case of unless your eon the inside you really have no business commenting, or defending the company......The make record profits the last 18-20 months all thanks to the retail staff...$1000 is a joke compared to the billions the company made....Ask employees about their mental health the last 24 or so months....and the stresses that have been working for Apple retail and I promise you 99% will agree $1000 is a joke
Maybe Apple should just close their retail stores. It's not like they really need them... I personally would be fine with that. I do my own research, so those people are useless to me. Then instead of getting a $1000 bonus, they can all get fired.
 
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$20 CAD is $15 USD and is less than what McDonalds and Walmart pay.

Don’t get me wrong, I look back very fondly on my time spent in Apple Retail. I worked with some truly wonderful people there. I honestly cried a bit when they clapped me out on my last day. But the realization that my contemporaries were better off working at McDonald’s did sting. In the end, I decided my time was more valuable studying. I had more money to lose (scholarships) than I had to gain by putting my hours into a retail job.
 
I have never worked for Apple Retail, but I know people that did. They were not tech-savvy people they were either business and humanities majors or couldn't afford college. They were recruited with the idea that they would have opportunities only available on the inside. After a while, I felt like their retail recruiting was borrowing a page from the US Army. Part of the issue might be that they grew so fast that they likely hired a lot of people that didn't care about the job or career development.

I met quite a few people working for Apple Retail that were not good at their job but they enjoyed people and hoped that they could persist long enough to get noticed. They didn't and eventually, they leave.
well there you go, i think that pretty much sums it up. i guess apple expected them to show interest and learn the ropes. it's great to be a friendly and happy store apple employee, but if you don't know what the difference is between an apple store and the app store, you may have a hard time helping customers.
what drives me crazy is that some of these people get an attitude with you as they realize this.
 
Maybe Apple should just close their retail stores. It's not like they really need them... I personally would be fine with that. I do my own research, so those people are useless to me. Then instead of getting a $1000 bonus, they can all get fired.
but i like to go into the stores and look around :(
 
well there you go, i think that pretty much sums it up. i guess apple expected them to show interest and learn the ropes. it's great to be a friendly and happy store apple employee, but if you don't know what the difference is between an apple store and the app store, you may have a hard time helping customers.
what drives me crazy is that some of these people get an attitude with you as they realize this.
I think Apple did, but I am not convinced Apple ever had intentions of promoting them if they became proficient at a job that wasn't related to what they wanted to do. It's really hard to build company loyalty when everyone there knows where their career will end.
 
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That is because no one wants to drive busses and it has been a huge problem for school districts that is only getting worse. That has nothing to do with Apple giving a thank you bonus for service during the pandemic (which 99% of other companies did not do).



What does the US tax system have to do with it? Is it Apple's fault that 40% will be gone? It doesn't "blow" when you pay taxes, it "blows" that the tax rate is as high as it is. People who don't understand their money and the basic tax structure are caught off guard and may get upset but that is only their own fault for not learning more and being responsible. The internet has a LOT to teach, and not just there for forums and and cat videos.

Looking at "$1,000 is a joke compared to the billions the company made"....the company doesn't owe the employees more than a wage. By your logic then a company who looses billions should split and charge all their employees for the lost money? Or is it only a one way street?

If you take the Forbes 500 list, what percentage paid out ANY compensation as a thank you for service during the pandemic? It might reach 2%? Why not direct your outrage for the 98% that did nothing rather than the 2% that did something?



It certainly is a start, but not for a job that a high school dropout could perform at. What skills exactly do you believe warrant $30/hr or are you basing that number just on the idea that people deserve things without offering their own value to the equation?
Nobody wants to work retail. I used to work retail back in the day. Have you heard of the job shortage?
 
The sad part is Apple doesn’t care about its phone support employees. I have a few friends that are senior advisors working full-time for $17/h. They are worn out from the massive amount of calls.
 
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I worked at home for Apple’s Retail Contact Centre during the last national lockdown in the U.K., but got paid the same amount as people who did training modules. Or, put another way, people who brought value to the company during lockdown got paid as much as people who did not. I recently moved to support my spouse’s career, but Apple did not have my position free at our new location. Despite volunteering and getting no extra compensation to do sales from home, and almost 4 years of service, they told me they couldn’t just make up a position for me in a store where they didn’t have the need, that they couldn’t afford it. Because of this, I was not able to stay with the company. That the most successful retail company would not support me contributed to a panic-attack I had on my last day of work with them. To see them give out this much money when they couldn’t manage to support a loyal employee keep a position than paid less than £20,000 annually, and to still not have received proper recognition for actually working during lockdown, is pouring salt into a wound.
 
I think Apple did, but I am not convinced Apple ever had intentions of promoting them if they became proficient at a job that wasn't related to what they wanted to do. It's really hard to build company loyalty when everyone there knows where their career will end.
could it be we're reading into this too much?
 
"If people don't like their jobs, then let them leave. Pretty simple concept." There is no mention of staying. One can not like their job, fight and complain to make it better and look for another job. But most people can't leave because they don't like it.

So yeah, their original comment contradicts what I said.
The point is: if one doesn't like their job leave and / or quit. It's up to the individual if they want to replace the job with another job or maybe stay at home and take care of the kids etc.
 
Maybe its because they will get it so taxed almost 40% will be gone. There's always a catch...just like the last "bonus" $2500 in RESTRICTED stock that takes 3 years to vest....ask the employees what its like to see half your RSU's disappear the same day in taxes.......it blow!!!! Another case of unless your eon the inside you really have no business commenting, or defending the company......The make record profits the last 18-20 months all thanks to the retail staff...$1000 is a joke compared to the billions the company made....Ask employees a.bout their mental health the last 24 or so months....and the stresses that have been working for Apple retail and I promise you 99% will agree $1000 is a joke
"record profits the last 18-20 months all thanks to the retail staff"
Of course retail staff matters, but you have got to be kidding me... Apple's products and services are the main reasons why they are succesful.
 
The point is: if one doesn't like their job leave and / or quit. It's up to the individual if they want to replace the job with another job or maybe stay at home and take care of the kids etc.
It seems you missed the point. It is not up to most individuals. Most people can't quit their job first, and even fewer can just stay home with the kids.
 
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It seems you missed the point. It is not up to most individuals. Most people can't quit their job first, and even fewer can just stay home with the kids.
There is no point to be missed, I don’t agree. People have choices, some harder than others. Whether you take the post literally or figuratively is irrelevant…as people have choices.
 
It certainly is a start, but not for a job that a high school dropout could perform at. What skills exactly do you believe warrant $30/hr or are you basing that number just on the idea that people deserve things without offering their own value to the equation?
Why not?

Why wouldn't it be deserving?

It would provide someone to live while being able to save for their future. It is by no means extravagant income and is even hard to live on in many large cities.

People don't realize how underpaid everyone is and has been over the last 40 years, especially in the days of record breaking stock markets
 
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