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All these mac fanboys remind me of my wife, no matter what valid point you make they jusy dont see the logic. F@&) whatever reseller it is weather its an autharized reseller (wich apple has an obligation to), or a non autharized reseller apple has not supplied neither one yet so it is apples fault that they have not done so. Just like footaction or footlocker will advertise the new :confused:jordans coming out on a certin day, they are resellers and they exspect to have their stock on that day so they can sell them on the date they advertised. Now if you go to footlocker looking for the jordans and they dont have them in stock period not meaning they sold out, meaning they have not recived them yet and you preorderd them well its nikes fault now dosent it? Just give the OP a break he is making a valid point apple is doing the resellers grimey and hes mad about it so he wanted to share his thoughts with the forum thats it.
 
Sure thing dude. That argument doesn't hold water either and that wasn't you're initial argument either. You're adopting it because you're looking for any reason to be a belligerent contrarian.

Those items on the AUTHORIZED reseller sites are based on orders they have made. Orders they expect and are promised will be filled ASAP. Its not like they get an order from a customer and then order the unit. They were expecting stock as soon as the product is available. It is APPLE'S problem that they are filling orders made from direct customers last week as opposed to orders placed by resellers 2 months ago.

You can scream at me all you like that that's tough ****, buy direct, blah blah blah, but that's not a rational or logical argument. Of course Apple should be filling its direct customer's preorders first, and come March 1st I was fine with that. But Apple is obviously done with the Jan/Feb preorders at this point and should start fulfilling its responsibilities to their partners.


HAHA ok... You and the OP must be brothers or something.
And its funny when you try to tell me I'm wrong when almost every other person is saying the same thing as me.. Your head is just as thick as the OP's so I'm done with you.... Good day


I SAID GOOD DAY!!!
 
Sure thing dude. That argument doesn't hold water either and that wasn't you're initial argument either. You're adopting it because you're looking for any reason to be a belligerent contrarian.

Those items on the AUTHORIZED reseller sites are based on orders they have made. Orders they expect and are promised will be filled ASAP. Its not like they get an order from a customer and then order the unit. They were expecting stock as soon as the product is available. It is APPLE'S problem that they are filling orders made from direct customers last week as opposed to orders placed by resellers 2 months ago.

You can scream at me all you like that that's tough ****, buy direct, blah blah blah, but that's not a rational or logical argument. Of course Apple should be filling its direct customer's preorders first, and come March 1st I was fine with that. But Apple is obviously done with the Jan/Feb preorders at this point and should start fulfilling its responsibilities to their partners.

i dont understand how someone telling you buying direct from apple isnt rational or logical.

lets see if i can put this in terms you will understand

i want my computer in about a week. now should i buy it direct from Apple that takes care of its orders first and i have the best chance of getting my computer on time? or should i order it from a reseller that clearly is having problems getting orders out in time? i think i will buy direct from apple.

now see, that was both logical in rational. i want a computer as soon as possible. so therefore i will order it from a place that gives me the best chance of making that a reality!!!
 
All these mac fanboys remind me of my wife, no matter what valid point you make they jusy dont see the logic. F@&) whatever reseller it is weather its an autharized reseller (wich apple has an obligation to), or a non autharized reseller apple has not supplied neither one yet so it is apples fault that they have not done so. Just like footaction or footlocker will advertise the new :confused:jordans coming out on a certin day, they are resellers and they exspect to have their stock on that day so they can sell them on the date they advertised. Now if you go to footlocker looking for the jordans and they dont have them in stock period not meaning they sold out, meaning they have not recived them yet and you preorderd them well its nikes fault now dosent it? Just give the OP a break he is making a valid point apple is doing the resellers grimey and hes mad about it so he wanted to share his thoughts with the forum thats it.

im sure there is a good reason for it. i dont think apple is doing it just to spite the OP.
 
To bad there not doing it on purpose!

i love applr like the rest of you guys(as you can see by my signature) but i would nevet defend their wrong doings. You guys defend apple like their paying your bills or cutting you a check or something. Come on yall we are all MACHEADS (even the OP) so lets just chill and love our macs and our fellow macheads and get over this thread. the op will eventually get his lappy, it is apples f$&@ up and its a done issue. Its all good lets not combat eachother lets just focus on the dic$& that say pc's are better than macs. Becusr those are the true delusional MF's
 
Morning!

So I just took delivery on my NEW 17" UMBP!!!!

But when I opened it up I realised it's wayyy too big.. oh well back Apple (through my authorised reseller, of course).

</dream sequence>

The reason I was so angry, as I stated somewhere near the beginning, wasn't because I'm still waiting after 5 weeks (which does tick me off) but because the girl in the call centre asked me why I would order through a reseller when if I was to order direct I could have my machine in days.

If everyone wants too keep harping on about how stupid I am for ordering through a reseller, go for it. Then when they're all gone, and you can't get discounted machines at MacMall or wherever, you can cry me a river.
 
Morning!

So I just took delivery on my NEW 17" UMBP!!!!

But when I opened it up I realised it's wayyy too big.. oh well back Apple (through my authorised reseller, of course).

</dream sequence>

The reason I was so angry, as I stated somewhere near the beginning, wasn't because I'm still waiting after 5 weeks (which does tick me off) but because the girl in the call centre asked me why I would order through a reseller when if I was to order direct I could have my machine in days.

If everyone wants too keep harping on about how stupid I am for ordering through a reseller, go for it. Then when they're all gone, and you can't get discounted machines at MacMall or wherever, you can cry me a river.

Nobody is on your case simply because you ordered through a reseller. They think you are an idiot for calling apple and expecting them to speed up the reseller's shipping process...

Apple has its faults (Many), but this is not one of them.
 
BlueJay I put an apple logo on my car want to buy a mac book from me? :apple::apple::apple::apple::apple::apple::apple::apple::apple::apple::apple::apple::apple:

Oh yeah I also put an apple logo on this post, that makes it an apple store right? If I don't respond to you fast enough are you going to call apple to complain?
 
I actually gave a good effort to read this entire thread (some kind of attraction to logic, or the absence of it...)

Correct me if I'm wrong Bluejay, but you placed an order from a friend, but you still have your money... and he was giving you a deal at his cost, right? This doesn't sound at all like any kind of legit channel, and I don't see how you have any valid complaint.

I'll try to sum up what I was able to glean from the thread:

1. You didn't put up any money. (you said you still had it, and made $200 on gold in the meantime...)
2. You were only going to pay dealer/reseller cost because the reseller is a friend.
3. You expected rapid delivery from Apple in a country where the 17" model hasn't even filled normal retail channels yet.
4. You think you have a serious point about Apple being at fault.

Are any of these points incorrect? If so, my apologies.

Now, my comment:
I'm not sure how any company can be obligated to you without you having put up any form of 'consideration,' which would be necessary to have a contractual obligation from the other party. Seems like you would prefer to wait on this and blame Apple here on this forum (and who knows where else) rather than do what any professional/business would do - just buy the machine direct, get to work using it.

It reminds me of another poster here who spent days bitching about his 17" MBP, when he didn't even have it yet. He filled this forum with BS about all the things that could be wrong with it, and how to deal with that. Sometimes we fulfill our own prophecies if we try hard enough.

Seriously mate, what does your friend the reseller have to say? It seems nobody's out any money here, so maybe try another track, since this attempt to get a brand new 17" MBP at cost clearly has failed. Nice try, though.
 
I just can't understand the arrogance in this thread, BlueJey ordered a laptop, same as everybody else, and many people have gotten their laptop, a 17", which took like 6 weeks for apple to deliver in the first place, which one must asume, first ordered get it first right? , unless you ordered through a reseller then you don't get one!

I understand that most of you who belives the topic starter should order through apple to get his laptop lives in US right? I belive that apple resellers are a bit different in Sydney / Sweden / Singapore than in the US.

I for one ordered my laptop 20/1 -09 and hasn't recieved it yet, why? because I ordered through a reseller, and why did I do that? because apple can't send my a invoice to my company, just accepts creditcard.

Apple is the one to blame for me not getting my laptop, why? because they are the manufacturer. THEY must send the computer to the reseller and then the reseller can sell it. The reseller can only call apple and try to get a status update, which most of the time Apple can't/won't give.

I understand that a reseller such as BestBuy buys alot of comuters from apple and that it might take long time for Apple to spare the computers and ship them, but the resellers I order from are quite small in comparison and order perhaps 2-5 computers at a time. which should not be too hard to send for Apple ? is it to much to ask to get a laptop one ordered 6-8 weeks ago?

I really can't understand why everyone is bashing BlueJey or everyone else that ordered through resellers, what ever the reason.

Supply chains for Apple most likely are their own stores get 1st Tier priority while 2nd Tier stores have to wait, aka resellers. And as seen above with the person that works for Apple Australia, their own stores don't even have the laptop yet, so what makes OP think he'll get his laptop sooner than the Apple Stores themselves do? That's just stupidity on OP's part.
 
Apple

In my experience, if you order from Amazon or the Apple website, then the order comes within a few (2-3) days, which was the case with the Speck case that I got from Amazon, which took me a day lesser then the date the company told me to expect it. Anyways, I feel much safer to go to the nearest Apple Retailers and buy the thing myself, but that isn't always the case. (Have you ever gone to the Apple store, and they tell you that they're not going to get another shipment for 2 weeks, and then you almost lose it in the store filled with shiny new Apple products? Then, after you almost blow a few blood vessels and narrowly avoid a stroke, you have that burning desire to do something about this problem, and you go order it from a online retailer. The delivery takes 4 weeks, and when it arrives, the Apple store stocked them 2 weeks earlier...
 
HAHA ok... You and the OP must be brothers or something.
And its funny when you try to tell me I'm wrong when almost every other person is saying the same thing as me.. Your head is just as thick as the OP's so I'm done with you.... Good day

Actually, the thread is evenly split, but even if it wasn't you'd be hard pressed to find a debate won over majority rule. Double fail on your part.

The reason why I don't buy from Apple? Its my right, that's why. I can do whatever I please. And so can the thousands of other people doing the same thing and I seriously doubt you can find a rational argument to tell me to do otherwise, especially when I've save $400 doing so. I don't need the computer right away so I don't need to have it in my hands this minute. But I do feel I've waited patiently long enough. Apple's preorders are filled, Apple's stores are in stoke, Apple's new customers are getting their machines within the week. It time the resellers got their's. Anything you can say against that is simple trolling. Good day to you, too.
 
This thread has got a bit long in the tooth, and it's only been around for less than a day :rolleyes:

OP, you have a very wrong perspective on the difference between Apple and resellers, I'm not going to bother arguing because you seem like the kind of person that won't bother listening.

This thread should probably be wastelanded as I in all honesty, the next 3 pages are going to be the same as the last...
 
I actually gave a good effort to read this entire thread (some kind of attraction to logic, or the absence of it...)

Correct me if I'm wrong Bluejay, but you placed an order from a friend, but you still have your money... and he was giving you a deal at his cost, right? This doesn't sound at all like any kind of legit channel, and I don't see how you have any valid complaint.

I'll try to sum up what I was able to glean from the thread:

1. You didn't put up any money. (you said you still had it, and made $200 on gold in the meantime...)
2. You were only going to pay dealer/reseller cost because the reseller is a friend.
3. You expected rapid delivery from Apple in a country where the 17" model hasn't even filled normal retail channels yet.
4. You think you have a serious point about Apple being at fault.

Are any of these points incorrect? If so, my apologies.

Now, my comment:
I'm not sure how any company can be obligated to you without you having put up any form of 'consideration,' which would be necessary to have a contractual obligation from the other party. Seems like you would prefer to wait on this and blame Apple here on this forum (and who knows where else) rather than do what any professional/business would do - just buy the machine direct, get to work using it.

It reminds me of another poster here who spent days bitching about his 17" MBP, when he didn't even have it yet. He filled this forum with BS about all the things that could be wrong with it, and how to deal with that. Sometimes we fulfill our own prophecies if we try hard enough.

Seriously mate, what does your friend the reseller have to say? It seems nobody's out any money here, so maybe try another track, since this attempt to get a brand new 17" MBP at cost clearly has failed. Nice try, though.

Thanks for taking the time to read the thread. Sorry you had to go through that.

My friends business is authorised to resell Apple.

1. Yes, I still have my money. I have given the reseller an purchase order on company letterhead. This was another reason I went through a reseller.
The company is therefor contractually obliged to pay when the machine arrives.
2. Yes, Slightly above cost
3. No, I was told when i placed the order not to expect the machine for 3 weeks. It's been over 5 now.
4. Yes, I think Apple are neglecting their resellers. I'm not the only one, either.

Sometimes logic and ethics clash. For me, right now, this is the case.

I realise I COULD get the machine faster if I cancel my original order, but I won't. I will wait. This point keeps coming up. I can understand why, but it's not what I was bitching about, really.

Now, my main gripe, again, is not that I am waiting, It Apple's professionalism, or lack there of, in telling me I should order direct from them and get it sooner. It was salt in the wounds. My tipping point.

I'll be the first to admit i lost my cool yesterday. struggling to get my point across without sounding like it was all typed up while burning effigies of Steve Jobs.

I did see the post with the dude going to cancel his order for the new 17" -Gold.

You read the whole thread. You will have seen I have to keep making this point. You just thought "One more time - He'll get it"?
 
If you needed the laptop, you wouldn't order through a reseller.

Time is money. People pay a little more because it saves them time for waiting.

I needed the laptop AND ordered through a reseller because I was saving a few hundred dollars but when it became evident that apple wasnt shipping to resellers and my date was pushed back three times, I bailed and bought direct.
 
Way to miss the point. Twice.


Want to know how we solve your problem? I even tested it, I walked into an apple store, pointed at the mac book I wanted, and said I will take 1 please. Within 3 minutes It was in my hands and 5 minutes later I was out the door. I waited 8 minutes because I went straight to apple, were as you went to your shady friend, and I got my mac book 2 months before you, and I ordered mine 3 minutes before I got it.
 
Want to know how we solve your problem? I even tested it, I walked into an apple store, pointed at the mac book I wanted, and said I will take 1 please. Within 3 minutes It was in my hands and 5 minutes later I was out the door. I waited 8 minutes because I went straight to apple, were as you went to your shady friend, and I got my mac book 2 months before you, and I ordered mine 3 minutes before I got it.

Thrice.

I get what you're trying to say, I'm an idealogical idiot. I'm with you on that. You can stop whipping that poor, dead horse. Please.
 
Thrice.

I get what you're trying to say, I'm an idealogical idiot. I'm with you on that. You can stop whipping that poor, dead horse. Please.

By Dead Horse do you main AIG? and by Whipping it do you mean continuing to bail it out? You sir have got yourself a deal!
 
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