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I'm 41 and yep, sure do. It's way better than most s*** that's put out now.
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(I'm 38, and I like some of Drake's stuff.)
 
This is awful. Music people aren’t tv/movie people!! I can’t scream this enough at the ‘geniuses’ behind all of these awful moves by Apple. Everything they’ve done is one flop after another. Stop wasting money!!
 
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I'm 41 and yep, sure do. It's way better than most s*** that's put out now.
That's the issue the poster was trying to highlight.

Marketer's know when to start and stop using a demographics icons to push products.

Tech/Videos/Music etc... (whether us old types like it or not) is always pushed by the younger demo.
If Apple is to flourish in the future they will have to appeal to the younger demographics icons.
 
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LOL at all these people on MacRumors revealing themselves to be completely not in the targeted demographic at all.

I don't love or hate Drake but he's one of the biggest things in music these days. Not only massive on a commercial level but mostly on a critical level as well. His latest, the mixtape More Life has a Metacritic score of 79 and most of his previous albums have positive reviews. Also give him credit for being a hiphop star more than a rapper - he's brought a lot of elements of world music into the mainstream. And he basically jumpstarted The Weeknd's career.

He was also an actor first (Degrassi), and musician second, so this makes some more sense than it might initially seem.

On top of that, he's proven himself to be extremely savvy at marketing and utilizing the power of the internet. The video for Hotline Bling is a good example, not taking itself too seriously with the dancing and eye-grabbing enough that it spawned countless memes. Plus that video basically looks like a tongue-in-cheek Apple ad.

Apple is not going to work with anyone obscure, or even a mid-level band. Drake is the right kind of "cool" that they want to bring to their brand, massive on a world level, but also still considered "in" (despite what Macrumors posters would have you think) by the most coveted demographics, and has proven to be very aware of his image. He absolutely fits in with the Apple aesthetic in a way that I can't even think of a single other musician that would.
Even given all of that... how do they make the leap to thinking he can create great TV and film content? Apple needs to worry less about having a "cool" personality, and focus more on finding creative writing and directing talent who have a history of producing successful content in TV/Film.

When Apple starts bringing forward popular youtube or twitch personalities to create content for their platform, we will know they have truly lost their way.
 
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You do because idk what youre talking about. Idk why youre “giving me a warning” when i’m stating an opinion..

The irony warning was for everyone else. We need to know when to take cover so we don't get irony all over our shoes.

Look, if you are going to smh someone maybe you should not do it with quite smh yourself. Most of us go through a period in our lives when we think whatever we happen to like is the most important thing in the world and anybody who doesn't share our preferences is just too old or unhip or to get it. After awhile most of us come to realize that entertainment religion is especially pointless and boring, it changes all the time, and for sure isn't a good way to judge other people.
 
Take a mediocre rapper and give him as much cash as he wants to make whatever he wants. Could work I suppose, but it stinks of Samsung's throw crap at the wall and see what sticks approach. Apple are putting their name on more and more crap.
 
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The irony warning was for everyone else. We need to know when to take cover so we don't get irony all over our shoes.

Look, if you are going to smh someone maybe you should not do it with quite smh yourself. Most of us go through a period in our lives when we think whatever we happen to like is the most important thing in the world and anybody who doesn't share our preferences is just too old or unhip or to get it. After awhile most of us come to realize that entertainment religion is especially pointless and boring, it changes all the time, and for sure isn't a good way to judge other people.
I'm not sitting here telling people their taste in music is bad.. i'm just saying in THESE days drake is at the top. Numbers speak for themselves whether you or anyone else in this post likes him or not. Appreciate greatness when its in front of your face.. He is leading the industry, he isnt all flashy with money or women. Hes a genuinely good person... Do you think people who hated Michael Jackson back in the day are sitting back now saying hes horrible and sucks and is over rated? highly doubt it.
 
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Even given all of that... how do they make the leap to thinking he can create great TV and film content? Apple needs to worry less about having a "cool" personality, and focus more on finding creative writing and directing talent who have a history of producing successful content in TV/Film.

When Apple starts bringing forward popular youtube or twitch personalities to create content for their platform, we will know they have truly lost their way.

It's untested, true, but it's not a bad leap of faith, especially if they've worked with him already in the past and seen what he has to offer. Drake seems to have moved beyond being just a musician, he seems like a smart business guy who understands the power of his own image and how to use it. That's not something to be underestimated. He's also brought new tastes and trends to the mainstream through his championing of certain artists or musicians. He's created a brand for a city (The 6ix) and a way over-abused phrase (YOLO). He's created a music festival, has his own bar, has done designs for shoes and clothing. He's definitely going more for the Kanye West element than just been a musician. He is a tastemaker and that's what they're hiring him for. I doubt seriously that he'll be directing things or writing things, but rather he is smart enough to put the right people together to make interesting new content. That's what they're banking on.

Many major creatives these days are multi-hyphenates.

ETA: Also to add on - did you see who else Drake is partnering with? It says in the article: the production company A24. If you're a film buff like me, you'll know that A24 is producing the best and most original (and I would say "coolest") films in the business today (Under the Skin, The Lobster, The Witch, Moonlight, Ex Machina, Florida Project, The Disaster Artist, Good Time). That bodes well for Drake's tastes frankly.
 
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This is awful. Music people aren’t tv/movie people!! I can’t scream this enough at the ‘geniuses’ behind all of these awful moves by Apple. Everything they’ve done is one flop after another. Stop wasting money!!

Drake is actually both got his start as an actor before becoming a rapper.
 
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I'm not sitting here telling people their taste in music is bad.. i'm just saying in THESE days drake is at the top. Numbers speak for themselves whether you or anyone else in this post likes him or not. Appreciate greatness when its in front of your face.. He is leading the industry, he isnt all flashy with money or women. Hes a genuinely good person... Do you think people who hated Michael Jackson back in the day are sitting back now saying hes horrible and sucks and is over rated? highly doubt it.

Sure you are. You did it to start, and now you are doing it again. You just need to understand how little anyone else is bound to care about your taste in music (let alone, celebrities). Frank Zappa once said that music is the only religion that actually delivers. He was wise. The point is, just like what you like and be happy, and don't make it a personal mission to convert anybody else. It isn't about that. You'll figure it out eventually. Probably.
 
I could possibly see this happening further along when Apple had a track record with strong original content, but now?

Wish Apple would stop trying to be something they're not, and get back to making products that allow Drake, Future and others to create (and in turn, sell on iTunes.)

I am beginning to wonder if my Apple loyalty is even worth it anymore. Charge more, do less and/or waste money. Meanwhile, the very things they make for creatives to be truly creative are hung out to dry.
Why wait? Apple has decided they’re going to make strong, original content and they’re backing Drake—who’s partnering with Steve Golin of Anonymous Content and film studio A24. That’s how you get strong, original content.

Far from waiting longer, Apple should have started at least 2 years ago, but it’s never too late to start. If there’s room for 10 players there’s room for 11, especially if one of them has a war chest like Apple’s.
 
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It seems as if this "do whatever you want" directive has also been given to Jony Ive, and perhaps some others, as well. Many of us here (myself included) thought that Jony needed to be left to his own devices so that he could continue creating great products that would likely carry some semblance of Steve's imprint after he passed away. However, it has become clear to me in the intervening years that Jony probably needed Steve to keep him grounded and remind him that form should follow function when it comes to creating great products.
The camera bump and the notch are both examples of form following function. I’m sure Ive would be happier without both. But engineering, marketing and manufacturing trade offs are constantly in play.

If you’re one of those who blame Ive for ports being removed, you’re giving him way too much credit. Ive makes the best of the engineering, marketing and manufacturing constraints he’s faced with, but to think he says, “the new MacBook Pro must be 3 mm thinner, make it so!” and engineering/marketing scramble to see how many ports and how much battery they have to remove, you’re wrong.
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Netflix doesn't need Apple.
Apple doesn’t need Netflix. They both can find/fund original content. Sure, hire away their best people, but there’s no reason to buy Netflix. They’re both competing for the best content from here on out.

The only reason to acquire Netflix would be to gain control of their original content catalog so you’d have to buy Apple Video to watch all the older Netflix stuff. But does Apple need their back catalog, at the premium they’d have to pay for Netflix?

Or does it make sense to make your own original content, starting now. Apple has made their decision; if they thought they needed Netflix they would have bought them years ago. Now Disney, to me that’s a different story...
 
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Remember when Apple made insanely great computers with software and updates that were insanely great as well? I miss those days.

I do too.
And now I will go quietly to the dark side knowing that at least I won't have to put up with any more juvenile, pointless, putrid crap that the Pop Stars at Apple think we want. I say a pox on you, Ives, I'msovain, Cook, Cue et al. I friggin' hate everything you have done to this once amazing company!
 
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Why wait? Apple has decided they’re going to make strong, original content and they’re backing Drake—who’s partnering Steve Golin of Anonymous Content and film studio A24. That’s how you get strong, original content.

Far from waiting longer, Apple should have started at least 2 years ago, but it’s never too late to start. If there’s room for 10 players there’s room for 11, especially if one of them has a war chest like Apple’s.

Seeing that this is springing from Apple Music is another reason to give me pause (given how craptastic that's been), but Apple will do what they will do. I've soured on Hollywood completely, so Apple won't get my hard earned money for these projects. There are millions like you who will, so enjoy.
 
Apple made the absolute right move here. Drake brought most of my friends to Apple music day 1, myself included. Since then I've gifted Apple music and pay out around $50/month for loved ones beyond my shared plan to enjoy. Drake has a lot to do with it.

Of course, I expected nothing but hate upon opening these comments, because macrumors and demographics and whatnot, and of course, the comment section didn't let me down lolololol.

It's funny how ummm, obvious it is the vast majority here would hate Drake :)

Anyway, he's not stupid, and will obviously produce quality products that sell, as he always has. His 30 minute music videos "pioneered by Michale Jackson, resurrected by Kanye West, and continued through Drake" have all been really dope artistically so far, so I'm not worried at all that he will handle this well.

...but I can see why ya'll would think it's a bad idea LMFAO...
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No one in the know would ever compare Drake to Sisqo. Secondly, Drake instantly surpassed Sisqo quite a long time ago. Sisqo had one hit album as a solo artist.

LMFAO he said Sisqo lololololololol dudes here are sooooo out of touch
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Take a mediocre rapper and give him as much cash as he wants to make whatever he wants. Could work I suppose, but it stinks of Samsung's throw crap at the wall and see what sticks approach. Apple are putting their name on more and more crap.


What about his work is mediocre? In detail please? :)
 
That is conservative. Drake is tame compared to some musicians.

What would you consider 'safe for the brand' ?

Well he's a black rapper. I guess that alone scares 'some'.
Even if he's Jewish. Even if he's Canadian.
Oooh so scary.
So no conservative.
Geez.
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Confusing comment here.

what era are you talking about?
and what is 'his muddy pond'?

mud is brown. i guess he means drake's and his brown partners. it's just easier to say instead of black or thug.
 
No. Apple will destroy Netflix and turn it into turd.

Bean counter Timmy and Jonny ‘slim’ boy ( who has put on noticeable weight ) should keep away!

They don't enter the pool far enough "no sex/violence/drugs never- just G/PG please!" and then they jump in head first "do whatever you want, you're Drake, it's fine!"

Apple is not skilled at this game, at all. Just buy Netflix and get it over with.
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Netflix is losing lots of money lately. Seems like a no brainer to buy but the pace at which it loses money should be concerning.
 
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