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Apple Has Received More Online Orders for New MacBook Pro Than Any Previous Generation

amegicfox said:
so the point of a cool expensive laptop 'grab and go' becomes:

grab your laptop, all yours adapters, hub, cables, external power pack and go
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Sounds about right, and the fact you won't see one till Mid December, maybe sooner for those early ordering folks. Guess the apple stores are going to be mobbed if and when they get some.

What if the new MBP's ended up like the bluetooth ear buds? and being pushed out till end of February?
 
manu chao said:
Most people already travel with a dongle to charge their laptop. It's called a charger. Or are public MagSafe chargers are common thing.
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if you consider your laptop charger a dongle, that's good you can add it to long list of dongles we need these days!
 
amegicfox said:
so the point of a cool expensive laptop 'grab and go' becomes:

grab your laptop, all yours adapters, hub, cables, external power pack and go
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If indeed, you end up having to cart so many adaptors and peripherals around, then yeah, maybe the Macbook Pro isn't for you. Either that or get a pouch to stash everything inside.

I would say that the onus is ultimately on the user to decide which compromises he is willing to live with, and how best to live with those compromises. For example, I currently own an 11" MBA. I have an Apple TV in my classroom, so adaptors are not really an issue; I can simply mirror my ipad or MBA as and when my lesson requires.

I have a thunderbolt dock at my desk, so the lack of ports isn't really an issue because I only need to plug in one cable to hook it up to my monitor, USB Hub and wireless accessories. Once in a while, I plug in a thumb drive to transfer files but otherwise, much of my file transfers get done via cloud storage.

And the whole point is that when I don't need any adaptors and accessories, my MBA is that portable and light. Compare this to a thicker and heavier laptop with more ports. I can't take away those ports if I suddenly decide I don't need that much capability. They are fixed whether I want them or not.
 
Digital Skunk said:
The Dell Precision M6800 is a FAT clunky machine. But I'd pick it over anything else if I needed raw horsepower. If the general population knew how much Dell and HP hardware was running their lives behind they scenes they'd give those companies another look.

I've seen more M6800s in the world of news, broadcasting, cable communications, and high-end post production than Macbook Pros.

Second in line .... ?

Dell XPS and HP Elite systems.
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Yup, I've seen a lot of Dell Precisions in the workplace.

There's a reason that a lot of the machines used widely in the professions are obscure to the public... they don't market to the public!

And professional laptops outside of areas that need raw horsepower are usually Thinkpads.
 
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vertical smile said:
Please correct me if I am wrong, but I believe you are talking about total iPhone sales. Is there a break down of how many of each iPhone was sold? Because mention iP7 numbers. They may have sold 50 mil iPhones, but how many of them were iP7, and the launch weekend sales were never announced.

Apple will probably mention them at the next iPhone event, but nothing so far.

As for AW, that too is not broken down, but put into the whole "other" category. So, there is no way of telling how many were sold.

Am I wrong?
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They don't break down unit sales by model. I think that would give TMI to the competition.
 
Pootmatoot said:
Yup, I've seen a lot of Dell Precisions in the workplace.

There's a reason that a lot of the machines used widely in the professions are obscure to the public... they don't market to the public!

And professional laptops outside of areas that need raw horsepower are usually Thinkpads.
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There's probably a very good reason for that. The public doesn't really need the sort of raw power that the Dell workstations provide, and the public tends to value features that go beyond pure specs, such as portability, looks, design etc.
 
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Abazigal said:
There's probably a very good reason for that. The public doesn't really need the sort of raw power that the Dell workstations provide, and the public tends to value features that go beyond pure specs, such as portability, looks, design etc.
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All true, but I think the core point was that the MacBook Pro is (maybe now "was"?) the go-to "professional" laptop in a few niches rather than generally (on-the go photographers, marketing agency front-of-house, boom-and-bust start-ups, those sort of areas) not major corporations (Amazon's all locked-down Thinkpads, for example).
 
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Great comments by good folks who don't own or use Macs.

I believe these people are very capable of making great computers and software and we are missing their talents when they spend so much time here making fun of other people's efforts.

But I wonder are they talented only in criticizing other people's work while they live mundane lives and are useless to society.
 
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YES!
The doom and gloom users of MacRumors assured me that the "MBP with a $500 EmojiBar™" was going to flop, just as they assured me the "iPhone 7 wiThOUt teH hEAdPh0neZ JaX!1!!11" would be an epic failure!

Wrong again Fandroids! :D
 
grey02 said:
Great comments by good folks who don't own or use Macs.

I believe these people are very capable of making great computers and software and we are missing their talents when they spend so much time here making fun of other people's efforts.

But I wonder are they talented only in criticizing other people's work while they live mundane lives and are useless to society.
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I suspect 95% of the people here own and use Macs, and the other 5% are here for buying advice...

I'm not sure "If you don't like the direction Apple's taken the MacBook Pro you must be a loser!" is a very solid argument.
 
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Count Blah said:
Tim, Ive and Phil don't want me as a customer any more(See my sig). Which is fine, I can still survive on my existing MBP. But I also advise an extended family. And my advice to them is to look elsewhere now. That is about 4 families outfitted with Macs that are due for a refresh in the next year or two or three. So Apple is not only losing my sale, they are losing a couple families worth of sales.

But Phil's right - Courage!!!

It takes Courage to turn their backs on those who carried Apple when it was down in the dumps.
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That's fine. I mean really, do you think your decision will hurt Phil's feelings? LOL. Buy what meets your needs. I always keep my stuff platform agnostic. But it just happens that right now, Apple tick all the right checkboxes for me that other companies just refuse to offer (worldwide support and warranty coverage).
I'm not an Apple fan per SE. But other companies forced me to choose Apple.
 
HenrikWivel said:
Think what is throwing us all off here is the term 'Pro'. For years, it has meant the absolute top of the range notebook with the latest specs, that could be maxed out in every way possible. A desktop replacement for a Pro, like me, a developer that need to run several virtual machines, application, database and web servers, development tools and what not.

Do I need better battery life and a lighter and thinner machine? Sort of, yes, I will take it if I can get it, but it is not top of my list. Its nice to be able to work when im "between wall sockets", but I need 4-5 hours tops on battery. Do I need 32gigs of RAM? Yes Please. Even if it shortens battery life? Yes please. What if I could have a setting in the System Preferences for "use only 16gigs when on battery"? I would be thrilled.

I would at least like to have the choice and not have Apple make the choice for me. The choice that longer battery life is more important to the sort of Pro I am than raw power.

Sadly, today it seems that term 'Pro' just means 'Top of the Apple range' and no longer 'The most powerful, and above all, usable laptop there is".
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This argument is just nonsense. These computers never had a Xeon processor and nvidia quadro graphics. That is for the true pros.
 
gnasher729 said:
How long do you think until you can get flash drives with USB C adapter? So far I've seen 128 GB drives, 256GB and 512GB shouldn't be far away.

Interestingly there are quite a few drives with two connectors, USB-C and USB-A. For example the Kingston DataTraveller, 64 GB on Amazon for £17.99. One end plugs into USB-C, the other end into USB-A.
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Good point! I was just finding an outlet to vent my frustration. Was all ready to upgrade my 2011 MacBook and the pricing of the new touch-bar MacBooks just threw things off gear!
 
bjeadeh said:
People will buy it, just not professionals that need a tool like drafting table, for music, for audio, photography, videography, etc. A headphone jack does not make it professional. Is he saying that the iPhone 7 is not for professionals? Ok, got it, i won't be buying the iPhone 7 because I am a professional. And what is more cumbersome, a slot on the side of the computer for my SD cards, or an adapter from a flimsy USB C to a gigantic hub that I need to carry on the plane with me? Oh did I mention that the adapter apple is selling only converts to USB 3, and that I cannot hook all my devices up at one time? Sure over time we will get a hub adapter that does all of this, but I am a professional that needs to work on a plane or in the back of a car. An adapter is way more cumbersome.

What the heck Apple?
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OMG thank you for pointing that out! Somehow I am able to program and work on Final Cut videos on my 2013 rMBP. Did I get a special one that nobody has? These 2016 models are NO MATCH the the low end model I got in early 2013? WOW!!!!
 
cycomiko said:
He didnt say there were more orders, just more online orders.

Anytime that somebody qualifies something like that, its just manipulation

We have had the best month we have ever had

(in online sales)

(from goat herders)

(in china)

(close to tier 3 cities)
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What other metric was he supposed to use, considering that the devices aren't even available for sale yet?
 
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pbasmadj said:
Good news for all the people wanting a computer with both A and C: Go buy a dell! See ya.
"This looks like a great idea!!" - No one, ever. Or, people with terrible judgement and no style.
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Since Apple took its sweet time releasing an updated laptop I had no choice but to buy a Asus laptop for college.
Sorry Apple, students can only wait so long. Ya snooze ya lose.
 
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AZ63 said:
Since Apple took its sweet time releasing an updated laptop I had no choice but to buy a Asus laptop for college.
Sorry Apple, students can only wait so long. Ya snooze ya lose.
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The MacBook Pro 2 should be ready when you hit grad school...
 
This news just goes to to show you that Apple marketing are great hypnotists and that people will buy their products no matter how crap and expensive they are getting. What's the world coming to.
 
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amegicfox said:
look at the Macbook Air for $999. You can do EVERYTHING on it that you can do on the $4000 Macbook Pro and actually with the Macbook Air you additionally have:

- Magsafe
- SD card slot
- 2 x USB 3 port
- Thunderbolt port
- 12 hour battery

so for someone who has a lot of money, dropping $2,500 - $3,500 on a Macbook Pro is great, why not !

for someone else who has to count every dollar at the end of each month, every feature is considered and though through over and over again

if you look at the Air for $999 and the new macbook pro for $1500 - $2,500 - $3,500 and up,
the Air wins hands down in price / features / usability
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Completely false. Can the MacBook Air drive two 5K displays?
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Pootmatoot said:
Of course it isn't, but they want actual pro machines: these aren't anything like that. They get mobile workstations with Xeon processors and NVIDIA Quadro, like the ThinkPad P70.

These new MacBook Pros are designed for bloggers in cafes (who don't mind the new awful keyboard experience).

Zero real workplace machines come with soldered-on anything.
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Seriously people, what is your problem. When did the MacBook pros ever have xeons and quadro cards? Why are these suddenly not Pro anymore?
 
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