Funny, comment. Someone buying the Air is hardly likely to have the $$$$$$$$$$ to buy those two 5K displays. But well played.
He said the air does EVERYTHING in big bold letters that the 2016 laptops can do. It does not.
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Apple Has Received More Online Orders for New MacBook Pro Than Any Previous Generation
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He said the air does EVERYTHING in big bold letters that the 2016 laptops can do. It does not.
TiBook (Titanium PowerBook G4) Cost $2200 base, $2499 mid-tier, and $2800 high end CAN back in 2001. I don't see economies of scale pricing relative here but they are quite incredible machines this year.
Key point I don't think anyone realized:
This is the first Mac where iCloud + TouchID + soldere RAM/Storage will complete secure the entire machine. Take the Mobo out you have no machine so theives at a quick glance will no longer be bothered once news gets out.
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What? He's the ONLY one that has balls and is doing something for the end Apple user - Keeping the Mac a MAC as best he can whlie Air Hair freak is trying all out to turn it into a smiley face software iOS device inside a Mac.
I'm waiting to see Tim retire in less than 3yrs or be ousted out via internal Board and employee tussle.
"We took a bold risk"
I suppose with so many billions in the bank and continuing to roll in for the foreseeable future that Schiller may consider an underpowered pro computer at a premium price not really much of a risk at all. This is really aimed at cashed up consumers not pros.
I suppose with so many billions in the bank and continuing to roll in for the foreseeable future that Schiller may consider an underpowered pro computer at a premium price not really much of a risk at all. This is really aimed at cashed up consumers not pros.
But that doesn't work. USB-C is just a connector and depending on the protocol / usage you need different cables.
Just want to be clear - building on the Apple website, I can max out a new 13" MBP w/Touchbar or I can max out a 27" iMac for what is pretty much the same price???? And if I max out the new 15" MBP I am going to be paying about $1,000 more than the maxed out 27" iMac???
Hmmm...it really doesn't make sense. I can get the most powerful desktop Apple offers ATM or the most powerful ultrabook Apple offers (for me the new 13" MBP qualifies as an ultrabook with its dimensions and specs) for the same price.
Already owning a maxed 2015 rMB, I think the answer is obvious, go for the iMac! Problem becomes though, do I wait? Pretty sure the TB3 iMacs are coming Q1 2017, but most likely with the same associated price hike....dliemma!
Hmmm...it really doesn't make sense. I can get the most powerful desktop Apple offers ATM or the most powerful ultrabook Apple offers (for me the new 13" MBP qualifies as an ultrabook with its dimensions and specs) for the same price.
Already owning a maxed 2015 rMB, I think the answer is obvious, go for the iMac! Problem becomes though, do I wait? Pretty sure the TB3 iMacs are coming Q1 2017, but most likely with the same associated price hike....dliemma!
Phil ShiTler knew their product release sucked , so he had to spin it so hard that he felt compelled To Spend 10 mins of the presentation comparing the current generation to the original BASIC COBAL era. Nothing "phenomenal" in the product except Intel Has done all the hard work here, the touch pad is just a stretched out iPhone 4s and gimmicky at best. The cost of the stretched out iPhones ne 4s that now resides on you MacBook Pro is being passed on to you.
Plus the price.....which moron forecasted this price point.
Plus the price.....which moron forecasted this price point.
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An i7 quad-core MBP or iMac with 32GBs or more of RAM and 4 USB-C/TB3 ports would be a beast of exceptional power. I don't know if the price will rise as much as with the MBP if it doesn't have a major chassis change. I'd (and I am) wait.
Ugh. I hope you aren't right that no Mini and no Mac Pro is coming. I feel like Apple would be squandering the advantage of its OS by not releasing those form factors. The Mac Pro especially has more impact on the community than the sales would indicate. That is my opinion. Also it drives software development at the high end which can trickle down to the masses. Important to have top folks using OS on a day to day level, in my opinion.
So with the new MacBooks pro, are you sure they cannot have the OS replaced without entering a password or touchid ? I don't think so, its not the same implementation as on iPhones
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Apple leaving the monitor business is also another indicator, both of which the mini and Mac Pro require. I suspect they will be gone. The mini and Mac Pro are also the least updated Machines traditionally by Apple. The last Mac Pro, while I own, had awful sales according to rumours, many have switched to appropriate tools, so the once healthy Mac Pro user base is a fraction of itself, simple fact is , pros who remained with Apple, use rhe iMac, it's superior.
@TallManNY : Do you think it's possible that Apple will discontinue the Mac Pro? I'm not very familiar with the primary use cases for the Mac Pro, but for media, wouldn't an iMac with multiple TB3 and USB-3 ports come in cheap enough to allow users that needed a more power GPU to buy an external one?
Edit: Didn't see the post above. Pretty much my same thoughts.
Edit: Didn't see the post above. Pretty much my same thoughts.
I'm not rturner2 but if you compare the new MBPs with say the new Razer Blade it makes you wonder:
- 16GB DDR4 RAM
- 1TB M.2 SSD
- Nvidia GTX 1060 with 6GB of DDR5 RAM and almost double the performance of the Radeon Pro 460 (3.5 TFs vs 1.85 TFs)
- IGZO QHD display with 262.25 PPI
- Thunderbolt 3 with support for eGPU solution (Razer Core)
- USB 3 ports and HDMI 2.0
For $2,699
I'm happy for all those people who ordered their MBP already. They have their reasons I am sure. The hope I have is that the line up will be upgraded next year with more RAM and a better processor, possibly with a price reduction. If I buy, when I do it will be a completely maxxed out 15 inch MBP. I think everyone accepts that the usual Apple premium price of several $100's is worth it for the reasonable certainty that a cohesive system (machine + software) is being bought, but it's a stretch to call it that currently. But if sometime next year, when the dust settles on all this and next gen processors and RAM is the norm, there is no Apple option, then I will move my business off their platform.
Single TB3 vs 4 TB3 in Macbook Pro though. Same memory, slower CPU, faster GPU is a big plus, it's heavier and bigger and doesn't have the touchbar. I'm not saying this is a bad laptop, it's not. But it has it's pluses and minuses compared to MBP.
Equating "we waited forever to release and only offered a single option but we sold a ton" with "users are voting with their wallets" is simplistic at best, and ignorant at worst. I suppose from a business perspective Apple doesn't care, but they are not the same thing. Sometimes people just "need" updated hardware and refuse to use (or are less productive with) another OS.
My question is, why all the comparisons with the Razer Blade? Besides the size and weight differences (you're not going to be lugging that thing around often!) It is not shipping yet, and has no release date as of yet. Same with the stealth. I'm not saying it is vaporware, but you cannot order one today, but you can order the MBP.
wow that razor blade is a REALLY nice machine. - anyone got it? customer experiences? build quality? love the dark design.
See my post above - that's just the thing, nobody has it, because you can't order one yet, and there is no release date published anywhere yet.
Indeed.
But for $1799 you get the FHD version with 256GB of SSD which is pretty ridiculous if you compare it to the 13'' model of the same price with a Core i5, an Intel Iris Graphics, and 8GB of RAM.
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It's less useful because the cable can only be used to connect an iPhone (or iPad) to a usb c port. The dongle can be used to connect anything that used the old USB including the iPhone. There are literally less uses. Only limited case exception it could be seen as more useful is if the USB c cable increased transfer speeds on the iPhone, but I believe it doesn't.
The issue is, Apple could've build that machine and the price increase will be justifiable! Instead they made the laptop thinner (people is perfectly fine with rMBP thickness) and ignore what people really wanted (more power).
Also with Apple move, guess we won't see any AR/VR development on the Mac at least for the next year or 2 since it won't be powerful enough. Apple gave us Thunderbolt 3 for the future but the specs they gave is certainly not future ready. Gone are the days where I only see Macs on creative pros studios as Apple these days just cares for their iOS consumers, and abandoning those who need more power out of their Mac portables.
TC talk so much about courage but doesn't have the courage to put powerful hardware in their portables, instead....lets make it thinner! Cause thinner is always good!
And Phil comparing the MBP performance to the first notebook created just shows how they really don't have much to say about the product they created themselves. Also the comparison is pointless as people would want to see how does it compare to what's on the market now which we all know Apple will be on the losing end.
Also Apple should just provide an SDK for OSX GPU so devices like the Razer Core and similar will be able to work, that'll be a win-win situation for all parties; Apple who values battery life vs power and Apple users who needs more power out of their portable
Well, it is good for Apple if they have Received More Online Orders for New MacBook Pro but Apple is inconsistent for their new products. Factually speaking, I don't know who are buying this new product as it lacks most of the necessities a normal Apple user would demand. Talking about the basic one; if you are unable to connect, charge or sync your iPhone with the new Macbook Pro and needs to spend some bucks again to buy an adapter for this purpose then it is good for nothing.
This will only be an issue during the transitional period, but Apple could've the common courtesy to include a USB 3 Type A to Type C adapter in the box but they didn't
I wonder when next year iProducts are released, if it'll come in USB-C by default, that'll totally shock non USB-C users as they now need to buy an adapter to plug their new iProduct to their USB Type A PCs
What exactly is it there that you are interested in which is that much better? Having a powerful GPU (1060 isn't even powerful) in a notebook is just dumb. The amount of times most people need a powerful GPU while "on the go" are very very few, so what do you really need it for?
Why are people so interested in adapters? Just get the correct cable instead of lousy adapters.
No buy until: lower price, matte black color, more usb-c peripherals available (starting with apple's, superdrive etc)