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Why are people so offended by iPad and by Apple calling it a computer? Computer can mean lots of things. The phone in my pocket is a computer. Just because it doesn’t have mouse support doesn’t make it not a computer. It find it bizarre how many people who probably will never own an iPad Pro are so offended by it. OK it doesn’t work for you then don’t buy it. I don’t need a Mac but I don’t complain about people who do. Buy what works for you and don’t care about what doesn’t.
Owned the new ipad pro for 3 days.

Theres nothing wrong with apple calling it a “computer”.

Its the way in which they try to detail what it can do, that it starts painting the imagine that they mean a full-fledged laptop computer - as an example.

They actively promote the iPads as a laptop killer.

This is where the debate starts.

Like a calculator is a calculator, not a quantum computer
 
I'll simply quote craigmod's awesomely eloquent article on why the iPad is simply NOT ready to be a computer replacement, not now, and not ever while it runs iOS.

"macOS is clunky in its own ways — with nearly fifty years of UI ideas piled atop each other, the incumbency of older technologies making it more complex than it should be. But, damn, it sings. It responds as quickly as I can type, and if I need to hack together a solution — figure out how to open a weird file or automate a process or drag data from one space to another — my iOS mittens are off and the precision is surgical. It feels like a machine that trusts me to be an adult."

"For now, though, the iPad is still good for writing. Amazing for sketching. Reliable as a tank. Just don’t switch too quickly between apps. Don’t expect your cursor to be where you think it should be. Don’t try to do anything fancy with files. Don’t design a book on it. And don’t hope to open two documents from the same app side-by-side. Yet."


And for the love of Steve, please don't insult our intelligence with the "but for the average consumer" bollocks argument. It only serves to excuse mediocrity, especially for a gawd expensive "Pro" device.

PS. I got to say, the fact that both iPads released in 2018 have totally incompatible pencils with no backward compatibility is peak Apple f__ckery.
That quote doesn’t mean anything. It’s saying nothing ever changes. AND THNGS CHANGE. That’s the only thingwe can guarantee.
We’re talking about software, code...not fundamental laws of physics.
 
Only way an iPad is a computer replacement is if the person didn't need a computer to begin with. For example, someone going from a typewriter, paper notepad, etc. to a computer then realizing an iPad was all the person really needed.

Now, a real world example why an iPad can't replace a computer. Just helped a person who was getting nowhere trying to use an iPad to migrate photos between different cloud storage accounts. Had the person set aside the iPad and use a computer with keyboard and mouse. Only then did the person succeeded and it was rather simple.
 
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Sure it can be a computer. For a lot of people.

But then the narcissists will whine: "But but but...if it doesn't meet my specific computer needs, it must not be able to meet the needs of other people in the world (whose requirements might be different). And therefore the iPad cannot be a computer.
 
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Sure it can be a computer. For a lot of people.

But then the narcissists will whine: "But but but...if it doesn't meet my specific computer needs, it must not be able to meet the needs of other people in the world whose needs are different than mine. And therefore the iPad cannot be a computer.
It is not a whining. It’s called providing a clear real-world example. We, who conplain, aren’t just generalize things. We talk in details how it is not a laptop replacement. If you have no intelligence to discuss the details then zip it.
 
It is not a whining. It’s called provide a clear real-world example. We, who conplain, aren’t just generalize things. We talk in details how it is not a laptop replacement. If you have no intelligence to discuss the details then zip it.

Of course its a whine. An iPad may not meet your needs as a computer. But you go further and say it can't meet others' needs (as a computer). Calm down and stop the insults. It's not about you. You're not the arbiter of what others' requirements might be.
 
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Only way an iPad is a computer replacement is if the person didn't need a computer to begin with. For example, someone going from a typewriter, paper notepad, etc. to a computer then realizing the iPad was all they really needed.
Most people bought a computer in the last 20 years mostly because they wanted internet access. But they didn’t really want a computer, just the internet.

In an abstract way, it’s like how if you wanted a portrait of your family, you would either have to paint it yourself or hire an artist. Then photography became a thing, became cheap and accessible and the painted portrait remains on the fringes.

I do feel that the iPad style tablet has replaced laptops for a large number of people, and this trend will continue in the years to come. To use another analogy, these are the people who were trying to drive in screws using a hammer because the screwdriver hadn't been invented yet.

The iPad is that screwdriver.
 
Of course its a whine. An iPad may not meet your needs as a computer. But you go further and say it can't meet others' needs (as a computer). Calm down and stop the insults. It's not about you. You're not the arbiter of what others' requirements might be.

Stop whining about whiners.

Jokingly aside, the article and video states that it "can" be your computer. It means there's a possibility, but there's no guarantee. Some forget what the word "can" means here, but often times Apple's messaging is subjectively misconstrued due to their pompous marketing.

For most users who just surf the net, watch movies or casual tasks, the iPad is more than sufficient. For people that do more serious work (i.e. complex workflows or desire more of a desktop experience), the iPad falls very short.
 
I don't know what STEM fields are, but I am assuming one of their other computers is better suited, right? An iPad is just another one of their computers that they offer, not sure why this concept is so wild for people to understand. For some tasks, a MacBook ins't the best tool. For some, a Mac Pro is overkill. Use the tool that is best for you and the task at hand.

PC does whatever iPad does and does it better, iPad can't do all PC does, therefore it cannot replace PC. To claim it can be someone's next computer, Apple claims it CAN be PC replacement. But it is not. This is false advertisement at best.
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Most people bought a computer in the last 20 years mostly because they wanted internet access. But they didn’t really want a computer, just the internet.

In an abstract way, it’s like how if you wanted a portrait of your family, you would either have to paint it yourself or hire an artist. Then photography became a thing, became cheap and accessible and the painted portrait remains on the fringes.

I do feel that the iPad style tablet has replaced laptops for a large number of people, and this trend will continue in the years to come. To use another analogy, these are the people who were trying to drive in screws using a hammer because the screwdriver hadn't been invented yet.

The iPad is that screwdriver.

I don't know about you. iPad is great for browsing on the internet while you are holding on the hand. It is terrible internet devices, while you put it in a case and connected to a keyboard. You would constantly using your hand to poking the iPad and your arm will be tired very fast. I don't know how can anyone work with iPad while it is in desk, but i do know i can use my laptop quite easily with keyboard and mice. iPad is more or less complement of PC, it never intended to be PC replacement, because it wasn't designed that way in the beginning.
 
Most people bought a computer in the last 20 years mostly because they wanted internet access. But they didn’t really want a computer, just the internet.

In an abstract way, it’s like how if you wanted a portrait of your family, you would either have to paint it yourself or hire an artist. Then photography became a thing, became cheap and accessible and the painted portrait remains on the fringes.

I do feel that the iPad style tablet has replaced laptops for a large number of people, and this trend will continue in the years to come. To use another analogy, these are the people who were trying to drive in screws using a hammer because the screwdriver hadn't been invented yet.

The iPad is that screwdriver.

Im pretty sure screws and screw drivers were invented side by side.
 
Without mouse support ? NO EFFIN WAY ! Even though I'm holding last year's 10.5" Pro with 512GB and LTE, I would buy the new 2018 iPad Pro on day 1, but not gonna happen without bluetooth mouse support. I'm using it for Remote Desktop/VNC, so this is deal breaker for me.

Check out the Jump Desktop app. It supports RDP/VNC and supports a couple of specific mice. I use it with the Swiftpoint mouse it it works quite well. Yeah, iOS should support a mouse natively, but this is a good workaround for Apple’s failures/arrogance.
 
Of course its a whine. An iPad may not meet your needs as a computer. But you go further and say it can't meet others' needs (as a computer). Calm down and stop the insults. It's not about you. You're not the arbiter of what others' requirements might be.

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I can see it working for some, but not for people who use laptops/desktops for work. I was at a presentation the other day where a guy tried to use his iPad to do a presentation via zoom to me and a team of other IT guys. He had to can it and use his laptop as he was having all sorts of issues. Good for a laugh though.
 
So, you need a big bulky expensive dongle to access a small USB thumb drive or micro SD card reader. It also introduces troubleshooting variable with WIFI which isn't as bulletproof as direct connection. Just build that functionality into the iPad like any other modern computing device.
I don’t disagree with you on that. Just saying there’s a way
 
Mouse, or cursor based navigation in general, of course is not a perfect or end all be all interfacing method. The real issue is that most if not all applications developed in last few decades had it in mind, together with a keyboard most of the time.

So whenever a device that tries to approach usability in professional settings, it needs to support those input methods, otherwise it needs to have its own self-contained control scheme with the entire built-in software work with it, we see these alot in single purpose kiosk or even handheld industrial "computers" actually. The problem with the iPad is that it is far from single purpose, it is supposed to be a platform that encapsulates most use-cases.
 
No, iPad can NOT be MY (desktop) computer. I can always use it as a companion, not as a replacement. As I do with my laptop and my smartphone. There is a time and place for everything.
 
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