Ya I was serious amd curious, and it was just question. Nothing to get worked up over, no one slammed the IPP. . The scanners at work scan both sides without moving or touching the doc.
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Apple Highlights Five Reasons the iPad Pro Can Be Your Next Computer
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No, I get it. Plenty of people used to have a home computer. For many people, they don't need one any longer. An iPad or an iPhone does everything they could need for home use. Enterprise is obviously different, but that's changing more every day. I work for a Fortune 250, $15B company, and everyone in the management/executive level is moving on from traditional PC's as they aren't needed. We still have our operational people using them though, and that is unlikely to change for some time. Mac's and traditional PC's aren't going anywhere, as they still have their place, but the number will continue to dwindle. Apple pays less attention to the Mac because it is a much less popular platform. Young people today are completely comfortable with iOS devices and that will be (one of) their preferred platforms when it comes to the work environment as well. It's just a matter of time.
I'm not, but I'm being told in this very thread that the iPad is a PC replacement when it's clearly not.
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Young people don't tell bosses what they are going to use to do their job. They get issued standard company hardware & will be expected to get on with it.
Anything the iPad Pro can do, the $329 iPad can do, CHEAPER.
Don't let Apple fool you and overpay for what iS EXACTLY THE SAME DEVICE due to iOS.
Don't let Apple fool you and overpay for what iS EXACTLY THE SAME DEVICE due to iOS.
Apple's message is that it can be an alternative to a laptop.
Those who argue about iPad not being a 1:1 replacement to a laptop are doing so because they can't argue with the actual message, so they pick an argument they can win.
Not in my industry. iOS will never be the primary work platform. My colleagues and I always joke about young people’s demands. Even if they are comfortable with iOS, they will get issued a Mac or pc because we know how limiting iOS is for our environment
Most new office copiers come with duplex scanners. Most multi-function printers now come with duplex scanners. And lastly, there are a good number of standalone home use page scanners that are duplex.
Photograph/slide scanners are still usually single sided.
I think a better term might be "complete", rather than "dying".
When it comes to hardware or software, PCs are pretty much in their final form. Barring processor changes, there isn't really much that can be done to revolutionise the way you do things on them and even then, performance benefits are extremely incremental. They aren't exciting anymore, you will likely still be doing the same work on a PC 10 years from now, and the platform just isn't new and exciting anymore unlike iPads and iOS.
Simply put, I see smartphones and tablets as having the potential to rethink and revolutionise the way work is done in a way that current PCs never could, and the way forward for them is clearly for the iPad to not become like the PCs of today. Else, what exactly is the point, really?
That's not what Apple's marketing said.
Saying something can be an alternative is not the same as saying it's a replacement. A car is an alternative to a truck, but it's not a replacement.
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I think this scares a lot of people, which is why there is so much pushback to the mere suggestion of an iPad as an alternative.
If only iOS were as versatile and powerful as macOS.
The hardware is great. The only thing holding iDevices back is iOS. They really need an OS and a UI paradigm which can make use of the power.
I remember when Steve Jobs introduced the iPhone he said that the internet on phones at the time was like the "baby internet" (a wattered-down/simpler version).... thats what iOS feels like now, a wattered down and over simplified experience, both in terms of the OS itself and the apps. IMHO
The hardware is great. The only thing holding iDevices back is iOS. They really need an OS and a UI paradigm which can make use of the power.
I remember when Steve Jobs introduced the iPhone he said that the internet on phones at the time was like the "baby internet" (a wattered-down/simpler version).... thats what iOS feels like now, a wattered down and over simplified experience, both in terms of the OS itself and the apps. IMHO
Grammatically Apple is right. It can be your next computer which implies it can be a replacement or an alternative. Their marketing is clever in that people will forget the meaning of the word “can” and start a debacle.
Yeah having to use CAD, customize your software, connect to secured networks and manufacturing machines, and just designing and building things in general is a dying 30yo idea that’s obsolete. I can’t wait to finally be able to lay off all our people so we can sit in coffee shops and get paid to tap our precious thoughts and prayers into social media all day instead.
Other companies with newer workflows might disrupt your business model if you keep looking backward.
Or they are just happy with the platform? People aren't choosing iPad's and painstakingly "getting by" with their tasks. They are typically using it because they are happier with the platform and see the value it brings. Why don't they have that feature? Because it's a mobile wireless first device and there are plenty of other ways to accomplish the same thing. I think Apple holds back iOS in some ways because they don't want to repeat the same mistakes as old legacy systems like macOS.
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What you describe is a very niche use case, not needed by the large majority of computer users.
Newer workflows... lol
The industry moves forward at the same time nearly across the board. Every time a new tool comes out, of some bit of computer hardware or software, everyone jumps on it and puts it to use. You either keep up, or you settle into some niche and face irrelevance. For those of us that do keep up, those advances are all finally happening, after a botched attempt 20 years ago, on tablet computers. Not oversized iPhones with a million limitations and restrictions. No one is developing for that; there’s no advantage. The new workflows are being created on the Microsoft Surface line, while Apple continues to dump its pro users in favor of selling more iOS rectangles to people who don’t need computers. They’re not even trying.
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Why are you trying to squeeze everything to 'absolute'? There is no absolute. We live in a relative world. I did not say the iPad is a toy. It is somewhere between toy and pro. In fact, I'm hoping the iPad improve to the pro direction. If people are fine with it now, that's great. If the iPad can do more in a coming year, they should have no problem about it. Both camp will be happy. I see no reason to try to label whether it is a toy or not.
Last I checked you still can't develop software directly within iOS. So you can't actually develop software for the iPad, on the iPad.
Sure you can remote into another system, but that just makes the iPad a terminal, not a computer.
On my rMBP, and Surface Pro 3, I'm able to run Eclipse and do work when I don't even have an Internet connection. I can compile Java code, and then test it in a local copy of Tomcat. I can't do any of that on my iPad Pro. I can even run a light VM for testing (yeah, even on the Surface.. could use more ram of course).
So I'm sorry but the platform isn't dying. Just as there is a group that can perform their tasks on a limited function tablet, there is a group that needs a real computer to get their work done. You can even go as far as saying that the platform you claim is dying, is needed to keep the platform you see as the future, alive.
And that's totally fine. There are absolutely use cases that an iPad won't be the best tool, there always will be. It's just that the majority of computer users won't need a traditional Mac or PC. Mobile already dominates today.
The qualified people that are next in line to the old people. They would have been trained by their old bosses appropriately. The ones to take their place won’t be some random young person with inexperience.
But do the majority of computer users need to spend $1,000 on an iPad? Also, why is it called an iPad PRO if very few professionals can do their jobs with it? Just call it the iPad "Max" or iPad "Deluxe" for people with ample disposable income?
As the iPad becomes more powerful, why is it so inconceivable that it couldn't be used for CAD? Even today I can think of uses where it could be utilized in a mixed environment when working with clients in the field at remote locations.