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Let's take a step back here ; there are very few tasks an iPad, or any iOS device, can do as well as a traditional computer with a traditional OS .
There are virtually no tasks an iPad can do better , the majority of medium to advanced computing tasks are beyond the competence of any tablet , for reasons explained above .

Tablets don't need a keyboard - that can be very nice . And it's the only reason they exist .



Here's the catch - the more your use and workflow depends on or shifts to a tablet, the less computing literate you become .

Because you keep hitting the limitations of a very crude device, and there is no progress possible beyond a certain point .

I don't agree. For me, every task I do is better on an iPad. I prefer iOS to macOS in almost every way. If I needed advanced computing tasks (whatever that is), I would use a tool that was better suited.
 
Does the iPad have support for a robust file system / download manager and the ability to use a mouse when required?

No?

Than it isn't going to replace a computer. Ever.

....for people that need a robust file system / download manager and the ability to use a mouse when required.


You forgot that part.
 
I don't believe the iPad is faster than a desktop PC with proper cooling and graphic cards. Even if it was, the software is so uncapable. Currently the iPad is like a Nintendo Switch running original GameBoy games.

Unfortunately, the software is very unintuitive and while many things have a way to get them done its a very complicated way. Lots of complicated gestures and menus buried under other menus.
 
Such a polarizing topic. You can easily see the group hanging onto their 30 year old ideas for what a computer is or should be. Technology moves forward, things don't have to be the same forever, people can still be productive. We get it, your platform is dying, but it doesn't mean the future can't be bright.
 
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For me my iPad is my 'computer' 95% of the time. and for that portion of what i do, i much prefer it to using my MBP. emailing, surfing the web, playing games, watching videos, controlling my various smart items, sonos, lights etc; its much nicer to use my IPP than my laptop. For me I just wish it would do the following:

-run xcode and connect to my iphone
-properly manage my files (mostly photos)
-allow me to back it and my iphone up to an external drive (don't want to pay for iCloud storage).

Beyond that, full office apps, mouse support, proper connection to external monitors, better mutli tasking etc. So yeah, there's loads more it could do and its frustrating it cant, but for the 95% of my use that it can do, its my go to.
 
Hmm.. in XX years young users will not understand why the elderly needed something called "file system". Everything will always be avail with you everywhere, all the time. Accessible with global search, sorting done on the fly. Nothing stored on your old external devices unless you are a "hacker". Using a mouse will also be unheard of. You control using gestures learned early on. Be it on screen, with gestures, verbally or through your mind.
Apple just want to try to be ahead of the game. iOS 12 is just still not very mature for this yet.
 
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Let me give five reasons that could be easily addressed why it isn't:

1. No mouse support, there is no way around it navigating multiple apps, editing long text, building power points, working on excel is just a hassle without one

2. No access to the file system and external storage

3. No multiple instances of the same app. Ever worked on two or three word docs or spreadsheets at once?

4. No display extension. Sure I can connect an external display but good luck finding a 4:3 large touch screen monitor in the market

5. It costs more than most laptops too and does less, outside of a few very specific workflows its still a companion device

The iPad is so close from being a true computer replacement. All of these things are consumer choices, the OS can still be optimized for touch, users shouldn't even have to touch the file system if they want, basically all I want is for the iPad to be my next computer and its frustrating how close it is but still falls short on key issues.
 
Oh, PUH-LEASE!!!

GIVE IT A REST, WILLYA?!?!?!?!?
Why should I? Doesn’t Apple display a nagging prompt asking you to update iOS, displaying it again everyweek if you choose “No”? If you argue that we should jump into the bandwagon with Apple no matter what they do, why don’t you like to follow the Apple style now?
 
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Hmm.. in XX years young users will not understand why the elderly needed something called "file system". Everything will always be avail with you everywhere, all the time. Accessible with global search, sorting done on the fly. Nothing stored on your old external devices unless you are a "hacker". Using a mouse will also be unheard of. You control using gestures learned early on. Be it on screen, with gestures, verbally or through your mind.
Apple just want to try to be ahead of the game. iOS 12 is just still not very mature for this yet.

Absolutely right. Whats happening here is nothing else but an introduction to new dependencies and services which can be charged for in the future. Its neither good or bad. As of yet.
 
Such a polarizing topic. You can easily see the group hanging onto their 30 year old ideas for what a computer is or should be. Technology moves forward, things don't have to be the same forever, people can still be productive. We get it, your platform is dying, but it doesn't mean the future can't be bright.

iOS is purposely limited & restrictive by design. Until Apple take the restraints away, the iPad will never be a true replacement for a traditional computer.
 
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Computers come in all shapes and sizes. Always have.

One computer from 1976:

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and another from 1976:

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QED

(No "mouse support" on either, BTW ;) )
 
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Hmm.. in XX years young users will not understand why the elderly needed something called "file system". Everything will always be avail with you everywhere, all the time. Accessible with global search, sorting done on the fly. Nothing stored on your old external devices unless you are a "hacker". Using a mouse will also be unheard of. You control using gestures learned early on. Be it on screen, with gestures, verbally or through your mind.
Apple just want to try to be ahead of the game. iOS 12 is just still not very mature for this yet.

People like you make me laugh. You have no idea how people in the real world work. In many industries and in the defence/aerospace sectors it's illegal to store certain information in the cloud - it must remain local and there are very strict rules around how that data is secured too.

We're years away from interacting with our devices 'Minority Report' style.

The iPad is fine for the average consumer, but it's far from Enterprise ready until Apple take the shackles off iOS.

Apple need to stop telling people the iPad is a traditional computer replacement until the software allows it to be.
 
Let me give five reasons that could be easily addressed why it isn't:

1. No mouse support, there is no way around it navigating multiple apps, editing long text, building power points, working on excel is just a hassle without one

Apple Pencil works will as a pointing device. It looked great in the Photoshop demo on iPad.

2. No access to the file system and external storage
As a wireless device, it's primarily relying on cloud sync (which is how Adobe is handling it in Photoshop).

3. No multiple instances of the same app. Ever worked on two or three word docs or spreadsheets at once?
I don't work on spreadsheets, thankfully, so I can't address this concern.

4. No display extension. Sure I can connect an external display but good luck finding a 4:3 large touch screen monitor in the market
There are several apps that support a second monitor to display additional content on a wired monitor or Apple TV. It just depends on the app.

5. It costs more than most laptops too and does less, outside of a few very specific workflows its still a companion device
Conversely, the iPad Pro outperforms most laptops, and for many people it's a superior form factor.


It sounds like you sit at a desk all day, so a laptop is the best tool for you. That doesn't change the fact that for a growing number of people, the iPad can be a great alternative to a laptop.
 
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iOS is purposely limited & restrictive by design. Until Apple take the restraints away, the iPad will never be a true replacement for a traditional computer.

It already is for a lot of people. As Apple adds more features and functionality, it's popularity will continue to grow. Just because it doesn't do 100% of all tasks imaginable, doesn't mean it can't be a viable option for a lot of people. Everyone is different.
 
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Such a polarizing topic. You can easily see the group hanging onto their 30 year old ideas for what a computer is or should be. Technology moves forward, things don't have to be the same forever, people can still be productive. We get it, your platform is dying, but it doesn't mean the future can't be bright.

No you don’t get it. The platform isn’t dying. It’s just not getting the attention people are demanding. Sure people will throw a fit and wish Apple death, but the reality is Apple is more focused on mobile than the latter. It does NOT mean the platform is dying. Plenty of Macs still getting purchased in corporate environments.
 
Apple Pencil works will as a pointing device. It looked great in the Photoshop demo on iPad.


As a wireless device, it's primarily relying on cloud sync (which is how Adobe is handling it in Photoshop).


I don't work on spreadsheets, thankfully, so I can't address this concern.


There are several apps the support a second monitor to display additional content on a wired monitor or Apple TV. It just depends on the app.


Conversely, the iPad Pro outperforms most laptops

Stop being fooled by Apple's marketing BS. Benchmarking is a complete nonsense & doesn't reflect real world usage.

Can the iPad run multiple VM's natively? No. Why? Because it can't by design.

What good is it having all that power when it's restricted by how native and primitive iOS is on a tablet?
 
With the little love Apple has left for the Mac these days I can see it gone within 5 years. The iPad is a better profit generator for Apple. There might be a few people who still need the power of a PC and I am sure there will still be plenty of Windows PCs available if one is needed. Profit margin in the PC business is just not nearly as good as phones and tablets. Apple is smart moving their customers over to an iPad. Even if an iPad doesn't meet their needs they will still buy an iPhone even if they use a Windows PC.
Time to look at running MacOS on a WinXYZ PC via VMWare. (In the same way as I run residual Win7 apps on my MacMini).
 
It already is for a lot of people. As Apple adds more features and functionality, it's popularity will continue to grow. Just because it doesn't do 100% of all tasks imaginable, doesn't mean it can't be a viable option for a lot of people. Everyone is different.

A lot of people can accept the compromises of iOS on a tablet as it allows them to 'get by' with what they need to do.

iOS doesn't even allow you to plug a hard drive/USB stick into the device and access data files. Android has allowed this for years. Apple purposely holds iOS and the potential of the iPad back. Why?
 
Stop being fooled by Apple's marketing BS. Benchmarking is a complete nonsense & doesn't reflect real world usage.

Can the iPad run multiple VM's natively? No. Why? Because it can't by design.

What good is it having all that power when it's restricted by how native and primitive iOS is on a tablet?
Most people don't need to run VMs, so that's an edge case. There are plenty of use cases where the performance of the iPad Pro is utilized.

Just pick the right tool for the job, and stop worrying about what other people use to get their work done.
 
And I can list 50 reasons why it can´t

Well, we’re waiting.

For some people the iPad can’t replace a desktop or a laptop running a full OS for those people they need to simply move on and get over it.
However for thousands of other day to day people it can and does that’s who this marketing is towards.
 
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